On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:15:53AM -0500, R P Herrold wrote:
I think those 'cloud' working groups are solving the wrong problem
at the wrong place, [some want JEOS to include a listening sshd, and
I think right now, we need to do both.
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it, CloudStack uses different formats depending on the
hypervisor used, right?
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I don't know. There's a trade-off between, on the one hand, being
immediately useful and, on the other, shipping the same bits around in
different packages.
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of churn.
Agreed. But do you think we should use ec2-user by default in the _non_
Amazon images for F18 too?
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Thanks!
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generic/fedora-18-x86_64-cloud.ks | 68 ++
1 file changed, 68 insertions(+)
New commits:
commit 0944412c942864363e49b5bcf66a9faa2c5f3193
Author: Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org
Date: Sun Dec 16 13:50:53 2012 -0500
Work around cloud-init 0.7.1 config
, with Fedora's fast pace, leading edge nature, and
huge package selection, I feel like we're doing our users a disservice by
not providing some level of protection.
What if we did security updates only, by default? (Right now, yum-cron
doesn't support this, so it'd be a F19 feature.)
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generic/fedora-18-x86_64-cloud.ks | 10 ++
generic/fedora-18-x86_64-minimal.ks |3 ++-
generic/fedora-18-x86_64.ks |4 +---
3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
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Author: Matthew Miller mat
(including just root) on the
generic images.
- We should decide this really fast because it's already past the last
minute; default is to just stay with ec2-user for F18 and revisit for
F19.
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as a simple KVM guest if you like.
It'd be _nice_ if this were consistent with the Amazon EC2 image.
And, when Rackspace makes user-uploadable images a thing, we want that too.
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generic/fedora-18-x86_64-cloud.ks | 11 ---
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
New commits:
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Date: Fri Dec 14 15:49:39 2012 -0500
Add commented-out block toggling to root instead
that somehow.
tar and rsync because they're small useful for provisioning systems.
Sound reasonable?
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afraid they will have to be
compressed because there's no reasonable way to make them a downloadable yet
useful size.
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You're right. I had temporarily set it to noatime. Will put it back to just
defaults.
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generic/fedora-18-x86_64-minimal.ks | 13 +
1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
New commits:
commit 6453a6869b4f91412f49d3d1fba42ad341f08e74
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Date: Thu Dec 13 13:06:09 2012 -0500
no set in old grub config file syntax
diff
33d2a933ca055d39984a338d164e389279600a49
Author: Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org
Date: Thu Dec 13 15:39:14 2012 -0500
bring changes from other files into this one
diff --git a/generic/fedora-18-x86_64-cloud.ks
b/generic/fedora-18-x86_64-cloud.ks
index 72225ec..cd8b30a 100644
--- a/generic/fedora-18
to decide. (No one is clamoring with agenda items.)
Would be valuable to work on increasing the visibility of and participation
in the IRC meetings? Personally, I'm more of mailing list person, and think
it might be better to just focus discussion here. What do you think?
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. Not asking people to storm the meeting (not
productive!) but I thought you might want to be aware if you haven't been
following this.
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Date: Wed Dec 12 20:12:36 2012 -0500
This is intended to be as obsessively minimal as we can reasonably
get and still be Fedora. It won't be the base of our default cloud image.
diff --git a/generic/fedora-18-x86_64-minimal.ks
b/generic/fedora-18-x86_64
.
As far as I know, this is one of those patches welcome! situations in the
dashboard.
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Short week in the US, and I don't think there's anything pressing to be
decided.
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as Cloud End-Point -- Desktop and mobile devices running Fedora
connect to cloud services.
I'd like to talk about our broad strategy in each of these areas, and then
on the Hackfest days maybe we can work on some specific ideas.
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come into it
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the kickstart config itself.
ami-creator (from Jeremy Katz and also maintained by Eucalyptus) does this
as well.
Oz boots KVM and runs the *real* installer in a guest,
providing it with the kickstart.
And this is also done by the new livemedia-creator from the Anaconda team.
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files agnostic.
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On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 11:05:58AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
S if there wasn't enough confusion over moving the meeting time
Daylight Saving Time is now over in the US. Is it more convenient to keep at
the 14:00 UTC time, which is 9am EST and 6am PST, or should we move it back
to 15
-mgmt
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of great stuff, but it's also kind of big. This is
all of 7.7k, and together with a simple systemd service to update
authorized_keys would provide a reasonable minimal alternative.
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bootstrapping process then there isn't much point in
offering it at all. Maybe there's a way to make it more modular.
You can ask for that user-data file more than once, though. It'd be kind of
nice if *that* listed the plugins needed.
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included version.
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cloud-init pulls in some, um, not exactly minimal stuff. python-cheetah?
(which then brings in, for example, freetype...)
Can we narrow this down without significantly killing functionality?
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On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:16:21AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
cloud-init pulls in some, um, not exactly minimal stuff. python-cheetah?
(which then brings in, for example, freetype...)
and python-imaging, and python-pygments.
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-strategy internally, but I can't
see why it'd be an issue on the Fedora list).
Yep, I can do that.
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ec2/fedora-18-x86_64-ec2.ks |8
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
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Date: Thu Nov 8 22:33:28 2012 -0500
install binutils initially and then remove, so dracut can strip
. :)
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Specifically the cinder and quantum services don't look like they are
set up properly.
The packages in F18 are roughly the same as those in EPEL, so the
recently-updated instructions here
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_EPEL
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On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:07:10AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
Highlight1:
Free and Open Source: built by a collaborative community using entirely
free software.
Highlight2:
Core Image Ready to Build Upon: use yum to add any of tens of thousands of
software packages, or drop in your
about the community but not necessarily all of
them. :)
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Standard Large
Available Instnace Types:
All except GPU. (Including Micro)
Pricing:
Zeros.
Security Groups:
tcp, 80, 80, 0.0.0.0/0
tcp, 443, 443, 0.0.0.0/0
tcp, 22, 22, 0.0.0.0/0
[These are defaults for one-click launch]
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, $bikeshedding, etc)
One choice. And it's what you'll get with one click deployment. I pulled
*this* particular choice out of my bikeshed. Standard Medium would be my
second choice.
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On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 08:31:51AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
Hi everyone. Any particular topics today? This week, I'm working on getting
the F18 images to build for EC2 in koji, and on getting our existing ones
into the Amazon Marketplace.
Oh, also: #fedora-meeting-1.
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are planning to run through as many of
the Fedora 18 test day tests this Friday.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-09-18_OpenStack
We'll be hanging out on #fedora-openstack on freenode.
Cool, thanks. I'll try to join in.
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ec2/fedora-18-i386-ec2.ks |1 +
ec2/fedora-18-x86_64-ec2.ks |1 +
2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
New commits:
commit 9f0b31b4b7d8c4ce793fbca145d32f8c606241ea
Author: Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org
Date: Tue Oct 23 09:29:01 2012 -0400
We're shipping man pages, so might
, and the groff's default display device
(PostScript). But, man requires less, and less requires the main groff
package. So if we fix that, total impact is 4.6MB.
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tested it wit the rpm -e --nodeps hammer, and both man and less
work fine.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868376
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replacement
Oh, I see that the default `more` is part of util-linux. Eh, never mind
then. :)
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 06:40:51PM -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
any way to redirect one page to another ?
Sure. We can do anything. :)
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Okay, I'll get the hang of this yet. :)
Traveling today and totally blew my calendar alarm. Sorry about that!
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Again, sorry about that. From my end:
- getting image builds in koji working again (looks like parted bug?)
- updating cloud sig web page -- more on that shortly
- talking tomorrow with someone from amazon about updating amazon
marketplace
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' are for?
That certainly helps, but it may take some time for the watcher to respond.
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The pages at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_images?rd=Cloud_SIG/EC2_Images
and
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#clouds
seem redundant.
I'm inclined to remove the Wiki page and instead point people to the
get-fedora page. Thoughts?
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to see the changes.
Thanks for that. Daniel, any comments on merging that in to the ec2
kickstart? It'd be nice if we could just have one. How much of the stuff
removed will _hurt_ if left in for openstack et al?
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On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:02:59PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
more), so it is recommended to *not* pre-create a user when you build
the image. What do we need to do to remove that from Fedora's cloud
image kickstart before we start building test images?
Apply for commit access to
https
-largest memory consumer (after dhclient). It's not huge, but if
we want to get as JEOSy as possible, this seems pretty painless and
straightforward.
Thoughts?
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a run once
mode for NetworkManager so it doesn't need to just sit there basically doing
nothing in the cases where its more advanced features aren't needed:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=863515
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it.
I'm really looking for easy improvements (like, moving the developer
documentation out of libxml2 into libxml2-devel), and if the general
consensus is that this _isn't_ one of those, okay then. :)
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ec2/fedora-18-i386-ec2.ks |4
ec2/fedora-18-x86_64-ec2.ks |4
2 files changed, 8 deletions(-)
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Date: Thu Oct 11 16:16:09 2012 -0400
creation of ec2-user
? Things I'm aware of: F18 feature
freeze, getting cloud images on mirrors.
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for any followup conversations. I'm not sure yet if a before or after
informal meeting is more beneficial.
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that might be related to CloudStack - this would
include KVM, Gluster, etc.
Directly after Amazon Web Service's re: Invent conference at the same
location, so there's a lot of cloud in one place.
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/company/news/press-releases/puppet-labs-announces-support-for-openstack/
http://forge.puppetlabs.com/puppetlabs/openstack
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I don't have a particular agenda this week, for which I apologize. I'll make
sure to build one in advance in the future.
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the meeting.
Yes, making it more convenient for the European contributors is the primary
reason for rescheduling. Hopefully the new time will work better for
everyone.
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for that.
Good point. I'll ping the rel eng people about the meeting time. (Meanwhile,
not planning on a meeting today)
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that need to be
addressed?
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-official meeting in the cloud channel Tuesday at
20:00UTC.
This is less ideal than having everyone together, but the two time slots
should cover everyone who responded. Sound good?
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Okay, so we'll do the meeting at the regular time, for everyone who can
make it.
When: 1900 UTC (3pm US Eastern, 12pm US Pacific)
Where: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net
Agenda:
* Matthew learns to run meetbot
* Hello from me and any other new people
* F18 feature-owner statuses
* Strategic
Whoo global scheduling is hard. Hopefully we can find a time which works for
most people. If we arrive at a time that doesn't work out for some people,
I'll make sure I can be a proxy voice for those concerns.
In the meantime, let's do the meeting tomorrow as normal.
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I get myself settled in
to the new flow.)
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 02:55:15PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
I threw up http://whenisgood.net/fedoracloudmeeting to help figure out a
good time -- if you could take a few seconds to go there and send the times
that generally work for you, hopefully we can figure out something better.
Hey
on this? Your work is appreciated and eagerly
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