Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 12/09/2014 10:20 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: > Hello all, > > It strikes me as odd that the Fedora 21 cloud images are hidden behind > the "Are you an OpenStack user?" link on > https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/. It seems as if libvirt > users would also like to use the qcow2 images

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > > On 12/09/2014 10:49 AM, Cole Robinson wrote: > > > > Right, but none of the common end user tools like boxes or > > virt-manager/virt-install (or raw libvirt, or qemu) will do that for > > you. So something would still need to be documente

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Ruckman
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 12:05:37PM -0600, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > On 12/09/2014 10:49 AM, Cole Robinson wrote: > > > > Right, but none of the common end user tools like boxes or > > virt-manager/virt-install (or raw libvirt, or qemu) will do that for > > you. So something would still need to be do

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014, at 01:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > It's been documented-ish but we do need to be louder about it. It would > also be awesome if virt-manager handled cloud-init too, the "use an ISO > to provide cloud-init info" is a little clunky. If anyone's curious, I was trying to argue

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 12/09/2014 10:49 AM, Cole Robinson wrote: > > Right, but none of the common end user tools like boxes or > virt-manager/virt-install (or raw libvirt, or qemu) will do that for > you. So something would still need to be documented It's been documented-ish but we do need to be louder about it. I

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Yeah - that bothered me too. But I think Atomic is so young and the competitive environment is so fluid right now that I'm willing to do some digging. Now that the release is out there needs to be a focus on *practical* use cases for the cloud products, preferably with solid "reference accounts" /

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Cole Robinson
On 12/09/2014 11:47 AM, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote: Cole Robinson writes: On 12/09/2014 11:20 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: Hello all, It strikes me as odd that the Fedora 21 cloud images are hidden behind the "Are you an OpenStack user?" link on https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/. It s

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Vitaly Kuznetsov
Cole Robinson writes: > On 12/09/2014 11:20 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> It strikes me as odd that the Fedora 21 cloud images are hidden behind >> the "Are you an OpenStack user?" link on >> https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/. It seems as if libvirt >> users would al

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Cole Robinson
On 12/09/2014 11:38 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:24:29AM -0500, Cole Robinson wrote: The images expect cloud-init to set the root password, right? So unless it's documented how to work around that, we shouldn't advertise for anything but a cloud environment. I'm n

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:24:29AM -0500, Cole Robinson wrote: > The images expect cloud-init to set the root password, right? So unless it's > documented how to work around that, we shouldn't advertise for anything but > a cloud environment. I'm not sure I understand your comment...this is the cl

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Cole Robinson
On 12/09/2014 11:20 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: Hello all, It strikes me as odd that the Fedora 21 cloud images are hidden behind the "Are you an OpenStack user?" link on https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/. It seems as if libvirt users would also like to use the qcow2 images (100% of

Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
Hello all, It strikes me as odd that the Fedora 21 cloud images are hidden behind the "Are you an OpenStack user?" link on https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/. It seems as if libvirt users would also like to use the qcow2 images (100% of my sample audience -- consisting of me -- agrees with