Re: [cloud] #48: remove rsyslog from default image, configure journald options appropriately

2014-04-22 Thread Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets
#48: remove rsyslog from default image, configure journald options appropriately
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 Reporter:  mattdm|   Owner:
 Type:  task  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  normal|   Milestone:  Fedora 21 (Alpha)
Component:  Cloud Base Image  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:|
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Comment (by johannbg):

 I should also mention that it's not enough to simply remove rsyslog from
 the cloud image, each package that ships service/daemon needs to split out
 their rsyslog and syslog-ng configuration file as well as their
 accommodating logwatch files ( which are roughly 100 components ) into
 their own sub package to properly prepare and integrate components and
 journal into the distribution.

 I filed a request two years ago with FPC in attempt to get the guidelines
 fixed so I could fix this when I do the systemd cleanup process well that
 ticket is still open and unresolved, perhaps the cloud community has more
 luck with the FPC if you are going to start doing the necessary legwork to
 do this work.

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Re: Thursday Meeting?

2014-04-22 Thread Joe Brockmeier
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On 04/21/2014 06:03 PM, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
 Heads-up: I just went ahead and closed two tickets (#24 and #29)
 that I think were done, just so we don't have to spend meeting time
 cycles on them.

Awesome, thanks!

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Re: [cloud] #14: Investigate systemd-networkd

2014-04-22 Thread Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets
#14: Investigate systemd-networkd
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 Reporter:  mattdm|   Owner:  janeznemanic
 Type:  task  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  normal|   Milestone:  Fedora 21 (Alpha)
Component:  Cloud Base Image  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:|
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Comment (by janeznemanic):

 Systemd-networkd enabled, initscripts and dhclient removed. Why do we use
 rsyslog and not systemd's journald?
 Let me try and build image with koji.

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Re: [cloud] #49: Spins Process for Cloud Images

2014-04-22 Thread Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets
#49: Spins Process for Cloud Images
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 Reporter:  red  |   Owner:
 Type:  task |  Status:  new
 Priority:  blocker  |   Milestone:  Fedora 21 (Branch)
Component:  ---  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  meeting  |
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Changes (by mattdm):

 * cc: cwickert (added)


Comment:

 I guess we can go forward with it and raise a ruckus if we hit problems.
 Mostly, it looks like we shouldn't have any. I don't think the guidelines
 all apply exactly, though -- we don't want these on the 'spins' download
 page, as that will just confuse people.

 I guess we should ask Christoph, as spins wrangler, what he thinks.

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Re: [cloud] #14: Investigate systemd-networkd

2014-04-22 Thread Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets
#14: Investigate systemd-networkd
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 Reporter:  mattdm|   Owner:  janeznemanic
 Type:  task  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  normal|   Milestone:  Fedora 21 (Alpha)
Component:  Cloud Base Image  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:|
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Comment (by gospo):

 Replying to [comment:8 mattdm]:
 
  If there were a generator for systemd-networkd which could read the
 basic values from the legacy files and create network units on the fly
 (akin to systemd-fstab-generator), that would level that advantage. (No
 need to implement the full syntax; just basic static and dhcp, plus log
 when something isn't understood and perhaps recommend NetworkManager for
 this cases.) And ifup/ifdown compatibility scripts would be nice (although
 I don't think we generally care for the cloud case)

 Sorry, but I miss why we would want to use the legacy files used by
 initscipts for networkd?  If we are concerned about the ability to migrate
 from networkd to NM we should probably consider a plug-in for NM to read
 networkd files.

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Re: [cloud] #14: Investigate systemd-networkd

2014-04-22 Thread Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets
#14: Investigate systemd-networkd
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 Reporter:  mattdm|   Owner:  janeznemanic
 Type:  task  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  normal|   Milestone:  Fedora 21 (Alpha)
Component:  Cloud Base Image  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:|
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Comment (by mattdm):

 Replying to [comment:30 gospo]:
  Sorry, but I miss why we would want to use the legacy files used by
 initscipts for networkd?  If we are concerned about the ability to migrate
 from networkd to NM we should probably consider a plug-in for NM to read
 networkd files.

 Many people are used to these files being *the* Fedora (and Red Hat
 distribution family) way to configure network interfaces. Their Puppet
 modules and Chef recipies work this way. In fact, the upstream code
 includes modules that understand this format natively. Tools like ec2-net-
 utils do too. All of our existing documentation talks about these files.
 And, it's already a common language between initscripts and Network
 Manager.

 I don't think we would be doing anyone any favors by making Fedora a
 special case. In the future, if systemd-networkd becomes common and native
 tool support is widespread, it'll be easy to transition people.

 In the future

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Re: [cloud] #14: Investigate systemd-networkd

2014-04-22 Thread Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets
#14: Investigate systemd-networkd
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 Reporter:  mattdm|   Owner:  janeznemanic
 Type:  task  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  normal|   Milestone:  Fedora 21 (Alpha)
Component:  Cloud Base Image  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:|
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Comment (by gospo):

 Replying to [comment:31 mattdm]:
  Replying to [comment:30 gospo]:
   Sorry, but I miss why we would want to use the legacy files used by
 initscipts for networkd?  If we are concerned about the ability to migrate
 from networkd to NM we should probably consider a plug-in for NM to read
 networkd files.
 
  Many people are used to these files being *the* Fedora (and Red Hat
 distribution family) way to configure network interfaces. Their Puppet
 modules and Chef recipies work this way. In fact, the upstream code
 includes modules that understand this format natively. Tools like ec2-net-
 utils do too. All of our existing documentation talks about these files.
 And, it's already a common language between initscripts and Network
 Manager.
 
  I don't think we would be doing anyone any favors by making Fedora a
 special case. In the future, if systemd-networkd becomes common and native
 tool support is widespread, it'll be easy to transition people.
 

 Ah yes, I agree, then.  Thanks for the explanation.

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Re: [cloud] #41: Write Initial QA Documents

2014-04-22 Thread Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets
#41: Write Initial QA Documents
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 Reporter:  mattdm|   Owner:  roshi
 Type:  task  |  Status:  assigned
 Priority:  major |   Milestone:  Fedora 21 (Branch)
Component:  Testing  QA  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:|
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Changes (by roshi):

 * status:  accepted = assigned
 * owner:  red = roshi


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Re: [cloud] #49: Spins Process for Cloud Images

2014-04-22 Thread Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets
#49: Spins Process for Cloud Images
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 Reporter:  red  |   Owner:
 Type:  task |  Status:  new
 Priority:  blocker  |   Milestone:  Fedora 21 (Branch)
Component:  ---  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  meeting  |
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Comment (by mattdm):

 You know, this has one huge advantage. I keep accidentally referring to
 our cloud image variants as spins. Making them _actually_ spins would
 remove the need to come up with a new term. :)

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