Re: Fedora Cloud Working Group Six Month Check-in
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just bumping this, as only two or three people have responded. (I am in, btw.) On 04/24/2014 11:48 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Hi all, According to our governance charter[1] the working group's nine voting members are supposed to confirm their continued membership every six months. If I'm not mistaken, the current membership was established mid-October last year - which puts us due about now. Here's the current membership: James Antill Robyn Bergeron Joe Brockmeier Haïkel Guémar Sam Kottler Sandro Mathys Matthew Miller (FESCo Liaison) Frankie Onuonga Mattias Runge If you're interested in continuing membership, could you please confirm by the next IRC meeting on Thursday next week? Alternatively, if anyone would like to step down this is a good time to do so. This is members with a binding vote on any decisions that need to be voted on - anyone, of course, is welcome and encouraged to participate in cloud WG activities, meetings, etc. Best, jzb [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Governance - -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTYRzZAAoJEKbW5zOgIHzU70oH/RgMbetCshtUz1Uy84J1qOJ+ v4WmJFl0YcZS/EOxUGrr8j13md8EtlPOjPozkYxJ1QG2+TWjELllP4oTRRFgvni6 DukU1sKeNAFOY/5Vk/Cn2uwXEEk4CD4o8Qnyg0TuquuJVhOCDH4z7hkZOmO4TdYl HisPP1gTkhcJV9olbmY6SmSPCICy0+v6NzXFXDtALS77BmwAv7GnWewZ88fzoGzT AlnpM5ayLtOkEbqCXiV7DVoiQtO/cLbmT0yRJJ7HAg35ZyoQnHNDfATuGfbI8GJ4 P4PgbFEFrhRSogTcXdBB+hC/UYmFr+YbwZoO5e1M1UFGawHqreICBIsR2YGpthM= =TrSK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
image architecture -- probably no 32-bit for docker, big data?
I know we discussed keeping the 32-bit image around, but I don't think we actually covered the specialized images. Docker doesn't even support 32 bit hosts -- it may someday, but even then, the assumption of most containers is gonna be 64-bit x86_64. And I don't think it makes sense to have a 32-bit big data image, but maybe I'm wrong on that for certain workloads? -- Matthew Miller-- Fedora Project--mat...@fedoraproject.org Tepid change for the somewhat better! ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
docker image security updates
Because the Docker registry works by accumulating everything checked in ever, I think we probably _don't_ want to build and push new base images (even as part of the periodic updates proposal). Instead, I suggest that we produce one base image in koji at release time, and have rel-eng push that, and then use Docker's trusted builds process to produce updated layers. Does this make sense? -- Matthew Miller-- Fedora Project--mat...@fedoraproject.org Tepid change for the somewhat better! ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
big data image _as docker containers_?
One more thing. :) And this one might be a little bit more out there, but maybe worth considering. We've proposed making a cloud image tailored for big data. Maybe, instead, we should produce _Docker_ images tailored in that way, and suggest running those on our Fedora Atomic host. (Looking here at https://github.com/scollier/Fedora-Dockerfiles/pull/29) -- Matthew Miller-- Fedora Project--mat...@fedoraproject.org Tepid change for the somewhat better! ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Fedora Cloud Working Group Six Month Check-in
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:55:05AM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Just bumping this, as only two or three people have responded. (I am in, btw.) Did I respond? I hope so. Sorry if not. I'm in. :) -- Matthew Miller-- Fedora Project--mat...@fedoraproject.org Tepid change for the somewhat better! ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: big data image _as docker containers_?
On 2014-04-30 21:59, Matthew Miller wrote: One more thing. :) And this one might be a little bit more out there, but maybe worth considering. We've proposed making a cloud image tailored for big data. Maybe, instead, we should produce _Docker_ images tailored in that way, and suggest running those on our Fedora Atomic host. I'm hesitant about doing a docker-only image for big data. The main reason is that a lot of the big-data applications (cassandra, hadoop, etc.) store large amounts of state on the node which seems less ideal to handle in docker than just a plain instance running atop a hypervisor. (Looking here at https://github.com/scollier/Fedora-Dockerfiles/pull/29) ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: image architecture -- probably no 32-bit for docker, big data?
On 2014-04-30 21:55, Matthew Miller wrote: I know we discussed keeping the 32-bit image around, but I don't think we actually covered the specialized images. Docker doesn't even support 32 bit hosts -- it may someday, but even then, the assumption of most containers is gonna be 64-bit x86_64. And I don't think it makes sense to have a 32-bit big data image, but maybe I'm wrong on that for certain workloads? +1 on only supporting a 64-bit image at least for big data and docker. I can't think of any tools or applications thereof that would make sense to run 32-bit but maybe mattf, willb, or others know of some? ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: image architecture -- probably no 32-bit for docker, big data?
Agreed, it doesn't make sense to keep 32bit images for these. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Sam Kottler s...@shk.io wrote: On 2014-04-30 21:55, Matthew Miller wrote: I know we discussed keeping the 32-bit image around, but I don't think we actually covered the specialized images. Docker doesn't even support 32 bit hosts -- it may someday, but even then, the assumption of most containers is gonna be 64-bit x86_64. And I don't think it makes sense to have a 32-bit big data image, but maybe I'm wrong on that for certain workloads? +1 on only supporting a 64-bit image at least for big data and docker. I can't think of any tools or applications thereof that would make sense to run 32-bit but maybe mattf, willb, or others know of some? ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: big data image _as docker containers_?
I also am hesitant about a big-data docker image as I don't know how much interest there is to use docker for big data application. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Sam Kottler s...@shk.io wrote: On 2014-04-30 21:59, Matthew Miller wrote: One more thing. :) And this one might be a little bit more out there, but maybe worth considering. We've proposed making a cloud image tailored for big data. Maybe, instead, we should produce _Docker_ images tailored in that way, and suggest running those on our Fedora Atomic host. I'm hesitant about doing a docker-only image for big data. The main reason is that a lot of the big-data applications (cassandra, hadoop, etc.) store large amounts of state on the node which seems less ideal to handle in docker than just a plain instance running atop a hypervisor. (Looking here at https://github.com/scollier/Fedora-Dockerfiles/pull/29) ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: [cloud] #14: Investigate systemd-networkd
#14: Investigate systemd-networkd
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Reporter: mattdm| Owner: janeznemanic
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal| Milestone: Fedora 21 (Alpha)
Component: Cloud Base Image | Resolution:
Keywords:|
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Comment (by janeznemanic):
This has been on my mind for some time now. I have been wondering if all
the scripts currently in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts are needed in
cloud environment? For example do we need if{up,down}-{isdn,bnep} scripts
in cloud image?
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Re: [cloud] #15: migrate to GPT instead of old-style partitions
#15: migrate to GPT instead of old-style partitions --+ Reporter: mattdm| Owner: janeznemanic Type: task | Status: assigned Priority: normal| Milestone: Fedora 21 (Alpha) Component: Cloud Base Image | Resolution: Keywords:| --+ Changes (by janeznemanic): * owner: = janeznemanic * status: new = assigned -- Ticket URL: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/15#comment:1 cloud https://fedorahosted.org/cloud Fedora Cloud Working Group Ticketing System ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: big data image _as docker containers_?
pile on! big data applications are generally scale-out, which is currently not easy to do w/ docker images. best, matt On 04/30/2014 12:33 PM, Julien Eid wrote: I also am hesitant about a big-data docker image as I don't know how much interest there is to use docker for big data application. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Sam Kottler s...@shk.io mailto:s...@shk.io wrote: On 2014-04-30 21:59, Matthew Miller wrote: One more thing. :) And this one might be a little bit more out there, but maybe worth considering. We've proposed making a cloud image tailored for big data. Maybe, instead, we should produce _Docker_ images tailored in that way, and suggest running those on our Fedora Atomic host. I'm hesitant about doing a docker-only image for big data. The main reason is that a lot of the big-data applications (cassandra, hadoop, etc.) store large amounts of state on the node which seems less ideal to handle in docker than just a plain instance running atop a hypervisor. (Looking here at https://github.com/scollier/__Fedora-Dockerfiles/pull/29 https://github.com/scollier/Fedora-Dockerfiles/pull/29) _ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.__org/mailman/listinfo/cloud https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-__of-conduct http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: big data image _as docker containers_?
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 02:03:42PM -0400, Matthew Farrellee wrote: pile on! big data applications are generally scale-out, which is currently not easy to do w/ docker images. Okay. I retract this one. Maybe we'll revisit in a couple of years. :) -- Matthew Miller-- Fedora Project--mat...@fedoraproject.org Tepid change for the somewhat better! ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Weekly Meeting Thursday @ 14:00 UTC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Reminder, we have an IRC meeting tomorrow at 14:00 UTC. Please join us in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. A list of items to discuss can be found in Trac: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/query?keywords=~meetingstatus=!closed Also, action items from last week: * number80 to take lead on Ticket #23 (https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/23) * jzb to follow up on Ticket 45, will herd cats until we come to a conclusion on it. * roshi to send note to the list for review of his QA draft If you have new items to add to the agenda, please send them to the list or speak up during new business tomorrow. Best, jzb - -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTYUx+AAoJEKbW5zOgIHzUVUIH/iW3TD8EiwDF4cg0ILslDTpk IXhprntlhphHjDE6RKy3F5YjHX3b075bLXU7Hr7HYQaxdH6zx+ISwSuMnMYhWgAf kOd7jfDMgjHIsAFgzQLlaSBoUD2C8CJJxPQmSfeARisLsPbCm/U6z8cqn40zRctE uHuAV5jPlo7AUKqCICUPdgvNd/+LW9JQwRmfobGBq/rqbzgt6+JJtZ+N4L5hJn9u YWrRVqPr8Zfz1YalDCTP/u6nl7bR0b9oYVjwFZhEddzclvMpnyzxTnbmX7u2C6jr iz/fjKISvCDIsq4Euo234nrHvpBB/wa4G7/QyERLSglT4McBx8vaars9mGqgHC8= =NdF/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: [cloud] #45: need three packages added to the fedora21 cloud iamge
#45: need three packages added to the fedora21 cloud iamge +- Reporter: sdake | Owner: jzb Type: task| Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Fedora 21 (Branch) Component: Cloud Base Image| Resolution: Keywords: OpenStack, meeting | +- Comment (by jzb): We have the standing IRC meeting tomorrow, wondering if we still wanted to consider this or if I should close it out for now. Thanks! -- Ticket URL: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/45#comment:6 cloud https://fedorahosted.org/cloud Fedora Cloud Working Group Ticketing System ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Re: Fedora Cloud Working Group Six Month Check-in
Matthew: Since you share my name, and I am a huge fan of the Project, I will be e-mailing you directly about this subject shortly. For now, I have had a long and exhausting day :) But for the record, I am always happy to provide input on anything. I haven't enjoyed Fedora as much in the past years, since F16 (which ran smooth as a whistle for me), but the recent two years have finally shown a major improvement. (F17 was buggy as hell for me and I had resentments for a while). Anyways, I am always willing to provide mostly creative and/or aesthetic input. As far as coding goes, I'm a bit of a rookie, but I can kernel thrash and provide opinions with the best of them. I will get back to you as soon as I can, but again-- hot, lazy day today in San Diego. More later, -Matthew (#2) -- Powered by: From: Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org To: matt palsson mpalsso...@yahoo.com; Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: Fedora Cloud Working Group Six Month Check-in On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 06:41:51AM -0700, matt palsson wrote: I'm ALL in mofos. (pushes giant stack of chips towards the center of table) Hi Matt. Glad to hear it. Right now, we're specifically talking about the voting members of the cloud WG -- see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Governance I think it's possible that we'll have a couple of new openings, and there's always room for enthusiasm. Can you tell us a little bit more about your interests in cloud, what you'd particularly like to help with, and etc? -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- mat...@fedoraproject.org Tepid change for the somewhat better!___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Re: Fedora Cloud Working Group Six Month Check-in
On May 1, 2014 8:27 AM, matt palsson mpalsso...@yahoo.com wrote: If you plan to keep posting to the (or any other) list, please take the pictures out of your signature. See also the Fedora mailing list netiquette: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Matthew: Since you share my name, and I am a huge fan of the Project, I will be e-mailing you directly about this subject shortly. For now, I have had a long and exhausting day :) That's not going to work. If you want to join the WG, we all need to hear this, not just Matt. (Sorry for sending this to you three times, Matthew. I just didn't notice how different the gmail app on Android behaves compared to the web version, regarding lists). But for the record, I am always happy to provide input on anything. I haven't enjoyed Fedora as much in the past years, since F16 (which ran smooth as a whistle for me), but the recent two years have finally shown a major improvement. (F17 was buggy as hell for me and I had resentments for a while). Anyways, I am always willing to provide mostly creative and/or aesthetic input. As far as coding goes, I'm a bit of a rookie, but I can kernel thrash and provide opinions with the best of them. I will get back to you as soon as I can, but again-- hot, lazy day today in San Diego. More later, -Matthew (#2) -- Powered by: From: Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org To: matt palsson mpalsso...@yahoo.com; Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: Fedora Cloud Working Group Six Month Check-in On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 06:41:51AM -0700, matt palsson wrote: I'm ALL in mofos. (pushes giant stack of chips towards the center of table) Hi Matt. Glad to hear it. Right now, we're specifically talking about the voting members of the cloud WG -- see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Governance I think it's possible that we'll have a couple of new openings, and there's always room for enthusiasm. Can you tell us a little bit more about your interests in cloud, what you'd particularly like to help with, and etc? -- Matthew Miller-- Fedora Project--mat...@fedoraproject.org Tepid change for the somewhat better! ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
