Re: proposal: Fedora Cloud Experimental image/spin?

2014-06-02 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 So, we've got the traditional Cloud Base image, and the focused Fedora
 Atomic image. (Plus of course the Big Data one, which will build on top of
 Cloud Base.)

 What if we also have a Fedora Cloud Experimental image? This would be only
 rawhide nightlies, with no other releases. And it'd be a place where we
 could try out not-ready-for-prime-time ideas like the alternate metadata
 services and networkd.

 I thought that the Fedora Atomic image would serve this role, but as I'm
 thinking about it, and especially as we get closer to actually having
 production releases of that, I think that while it'll probably _get_ those
 experimental things sooner, there's enough going on with Atomic itself that
 it'd be better to have a separate place to do the actual experimenting.

 What do you think?

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 Matthew Miller--   Fedora Project--mat...@fedoraproject.org
   Tepid change for the somewhat better!

+1

also I think we should publish new isos every month for desktop



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Re: [cloud] #16: rename cloud spin kickstart to distinguish the cloud base image

2014-06-02 Thread Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets
#16: rename cloud spin kickstart to distinguish the cloud base image
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 Reporter:  mattdm  |   Owner:  red
 Type:  task|  Status:  closed
 Priority:  minor   |   Milestone:  Fedora 21 (Branch)
Component:  --- |  Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  |
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Changes (by mattdm):

 * resolution:   = fixed
 * status:  assigned = closed


Comment:

 this looks like it's done

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[cloud] #64: meeting agenda item/tracker for Project Atomic

2014-06-02 Thread Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets
#64: meeting agenda item/tracker for Project Atomic
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 Reporter:  mattdm  |  Owner:
 Type:  task| Status:  new
 Priority:  normal  |  Milestone:  Future
Component:  --- |   Keywords:  meeting
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 Weekly report on status/blockers/todos for Project Atomic in Fedora --
 starting with image generation and ostree repos and building up from
 there.

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Re: proposal: Fedora Cloud Experimental image/spin?

2014-06-02 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 06/02/2014 08:48 AM, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
 also I think we should publish new isos every month for desktop

That's probably a discussion for the Workstation WG / another list that
isn't cloud@. We won't be deciding that here.

Best,

jzb
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Re: proposal: Fedora Cloud Experimental image/spin?

2014-06-02 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 06/02/2014 08:43 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
 What do you think?

+1

Does this need to be a spin or just here's where we put the
nightlies and some associated information about them?

Best,

jzb

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Re: proposal: Fedora Cloud Experimental image/spin?

2014-06-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 11:47:44AM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
  What do you think?
 Does this need to be a spin or just here's where we put the
 nightlies and some associated information about them?

Talked to Dennis, and it's easist to put it in the spin-kickstart repo,
whatever we call it. I agree that it's not really a spin.


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Re: proposal: Fedora Cloud Experimental image/spin?

2014-06-02 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Itamar Reis Peixoto
ita...@ispbrasil.com.br wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Matthew Miller
 mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 So, we've got the traditional Cloud Base image, and the focused Fedora
 Atomic image. (Plus of course the Big Data one, which will build on top of
 Cloud Base.)

 What if we also have a Fedora Cloud Experimental image? This would be only
 rawhide nightlies, with no other releases. And it'd be a place where we
 could try out not-ready-for-prime-time ideas like the alternate metadata
 services and networkd.

 I thought that the Fedora Atomic image would serve this role, but as I'm
 thinking about it, and especially as we get closer to actually having
 production releases of that, I think that while it'll probably _get_ those
 experimental things sooner, there's enough going on with Atomic itself that
 it'd be better to have a separate place to do the actual experimenting.

 What do you think?

 --
 Matthew Miller--   Fedora Project--mat...@fedoraproject.org
   Tepid change for the somewhat better!

 +1

 also I think we should publish new isos every month for desktop

New workstation live isos based on rawhide are published daily (along
with all the rest of the spins).  So we're already above and beyond
what you're suggesting I think, unless I misunderstood.

josh
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Re: proposal: Fedora Cloud Experimental image/spin?

2014-06-02 Thread Sandro red Mathys
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 So, we've got the traditional Cloud Base image, and the focused Fedora
 Atomic image. (Plus of course the Big Data one, which will build on top of
 Cloud Base.)

 What if we also have a Fedora Cloud Experimental image? This would be only
 rawhide nightlies, with no other releases. And it'd be a place where we
 could try out not-ready-for-prime-time ideas like the alternate metadata
 services and networkd.

 I thought that the Fedora Atomic image would serve this role, but as I'm
 thinking about it, and especially as we get closer to actually having
 production releases of that, I think that while it'll probably _get_ those
 experimental things sooner, there's enough going on with Atomic itself that
 it'd be better to have a separate place to do the actual experimenting.

 What do you think?

A strong +0 from me. I see what you want to do and don't think it's a
bad idea. But there's often competing ideas of which only one could
make it into such an image. So either it should be easily possible to
create additional ones (let's say we want to keep the 3-4 cloud-init
alternatives available for a while) or ... well, whatever.

If people think, it's a good idea, sure, do it. But currently I'd
think it's rather a waste of resources as I still have to build images
of my own to look at technologies that compete what's in the current
experimental image.

-- Sandro
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