Re: Future directions for Fedora Cloud

2013-09-16 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2013-09-11 at 12:01 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: So, idea one is to make something like CoreOS (http://coreos.com/): a lightweight distribution made for running containers on top of. We wouldn't attempt to be _as_ lightweight as CoreOS (for that, there's CoreOS), but aim to be small

min-metadata-service 2014.2

2014-02-11 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, https://github.com/cgwalters/min-metadata-service is a new project of mine which might be of interest to a potential few people here in the cloud space that are building smaller operating systems - small enough to not include Python (or other scripting languages). I just released

Re: ostree and fedora cloud

2014-02-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: So at my Fedora.next talk at DevConf, I mentioned that OSTree might be an interesting thing for Fedora Cloud to look at. I am obviously interested in this =) I have some forthcoming work to post within a week

Re: Automatic Smoketests for the Cloud Images: What to Test?

2014-03-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Sandro red Mathys r...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Heads-up: I've taken ownership for the external need Automatic Smoketests on Image Build [0] Testing an image takes time and resources, and with several images, it takes several times that. Since that simply doesn't

Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]

2014-03-06 Thread Colin Walters
-computing on the build server what in the traditional package world happens per-client. Oh, totally. Still, I would rather have a statement from Colin Walters that states it's in a good enough state for our use case. Leading-edge is good, broken edges aren't :) Short answer: Yes, I think so. Longer

Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]

2014-03-06 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Sandro red Mathys r...@fedoraproject.org wrote: - Create image using ImageFactory (and initialize ostree in %post) This is possible, but in the realm of options which range from: 1) Hack up current rpm-ostree direct .qcow2 generation code 2) ImageFactory with

Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]

2014-03-06 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I think it will eventually be pretty useful for servers, although without a good layer on top, we would just be, to extend your analogy, forcing everyone to buy their groceries from a restaurant, and making them

Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]

2014-03-06 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote: How would this go over for people coming from $other_images that have cloud-init and expect to use it? If I understand correctly, you're saying their existing stuff isn't going to work well w/Fedora even if we have

Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]

2014-03-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Sandro red Mathys r...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Sorry, missing something here. What would I need that code for? I was actually thinking about writing something like: Yep, that code is just the JS implementation of the shell script you posted. Hm, does

Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]

2014-03-09 Thread Colin Walters
- How does one activate the deployed product if extlinux is the active bootloader? The website has only instructions for GRUB (bls_import, etc). Ah, you probably hit this: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726007 This is also related: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722845

Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]

2014-03-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:33 AM, James Slagle jsla...@redhat.com wrote: There are 2 image upgrade paths being pursued by TripleO. In both cases, the end goal is to have your instances running with a read-only root partition and your stateful data you need preserved mounted on a separate

Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]

2014-03-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:17 PM, James Slagle jsla...@redhat.com wrote: How is it incompatible with packaging? The read only root support that already exists in Fedora today is what would be used. In that /etc and /var are read-only. Now you're right, there is read-only root which makes

Re: Fedora Cloud Workgroup Meeting Minutes 01 May 2014

2014-05-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Mike Ruckman ro...@fedoraproject.org wrote: * Crucial basic Docket Host Image decisions (jzb, 08:07:23) * https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/47 (jzb, 08:07:36) * AGREED: fedora atomic docker-specific image will not include yum/dnf (mattdm,

Re: Fedora Cloud Workgroup Meeting Minutes 01 May 2014

2014-05-06 Thread Colin Walters
I'm not sure what you are saying here. This is about yum/dnf/etc. being in the minimal install image for the Atomic host. Do you plan to ship rpm-ostree in that? I thought that was the plan? I guess you are saying that you are planning on shipping more than just ostree, so people can

The special extlinux + grub1 situation in current Fedora Cloud

2014-05-06 Thread Colin Walters
Hello cloud dwellers, So I was looking at rpm-ostree + EC2 stuff, and digging into the current Fedora cloud image, I hadn't realized just how special it is. Basically we have extlinux in the VBR, and /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf. This is used by qemu-kvm/OpenStack. But in order to

Re: Fedora Cloud Workgroup Meeting Minutes 01 May 2014

2014-05-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote: Any chance you can make it to tomorrow's meeting? We might have more questions that you are uniquely qualified to help us sort out. I'll be on IRC, but unfortunately I have a time conflict on that slot (as I imagine many

Reviewer needed for renamed min-cloud-agent

2014-05-10 Thread Colin Walters
Hello world, I finally got some time this weekend to work on min-metadata-service; it's now more featureful, and has a better name: min-cloud-agent. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1096479 Is the new package review request, per policy since it's renamed. A reviewer would be

Re: Fedora @ Google Cloud

2014-06-23 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: 1) the image is intended to be just ran without tweaks For reference I meant that Fedora rel-eng performs this operation, ending up with two distinct cloud images but without significant pain in generating them. Anyways though I think

Re: Fedora @ Google Cloud

2014-06-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014, at 08:47 PM, Renich Bon Ciric wrote: I'm, currently, working on a Fedora image for Google Cloud; just for fun. A semi-related followup here: For the Atomic Cloud Image our original thought was to try min-cloud-agent, but I haven't had much time to invest in it recently,

Re: Taking a break or whatever - action needed, I guess

2014-07-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014, at 07:58 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Atomic_Cloud_Image I jumped in and added my name to this page, and cleaned it up a bit. What do people think? ___ cloud mailing list

Re: Minutes from today's Cloud SIG meeting (2014-07-10)

2014-07-10 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, I have a regular meeting time conflict with this one, sorry I wasn't able to make it. I'll try to ensure I at least am on IRC for the meeting. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014, at 08:07 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: * Atomic Cloud Image (mattdm, 14:41:59) * this one needs a new owner (mattdm,

[PATCH] Don't enable by default

2014-07-14 Thread Colin Walters
should be safe because the Fedora Cloud kickstart in spin-kickstarts uses services --enabled=cloud-init. --- cloud-init.spec | 22 ++ 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-) From 71d73e3ae96fd66f401db44e74a6aacecc030ecc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt

Re: [PATCH] Don't enable by default

2014-07-16 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014, at 02:52 AM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: This would be a great thing to add to the bug report for this issue [1] as well. Done, patch attached. If the kickstart explicitly enables cloud-init then yes, let's drop the self-enabling bits. We should really be using

Cockpit in Cloud images?

2014-07-22 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, I was originally including Cockpit in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Atomic_Cloud_Image but rel-eng raised the concern that https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CockpitManagementConsole is only listed for Server. Should we include it in Cloud too? Right now it's promoted as

Re: Cockpit in Cloud images?

2014-07-23 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014, at 03:57 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: +1 -- let's aim to implement the Atomic patterns unless there's a compelling reason not to (and, if that happens, see if we can work with the upstream project to straighten out whatever problem). A specific reason to include Cockpit by

New Fedora 22 Change Proposal: Fedora Atomic

2014-07-23 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, Trying to get ahead of the Change process this time =) I'd like to move Atomic under the Server WG as I feel it's a more appropriate home for Fedora 22, with the increased scope to bare metal installation. (Really it crosses both as Atomic should run in all the clouds that mainline does,

Minutes for Cloud 2014-08-01

2014-08-01 Thread Colin Walters
=== #fedora-meeting Meeting === Meeting started by walters at 16:07:39 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-08-01/fedora-meeting.2014-08-01-16.07.log.html . Meeting summary --- * LINK:

Re: [Base] Terminology for docker/atomic images

2014-09-08 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: In a nutshell, it would be great if we added Container to references we make to the container image (in conversation and docs). I tend to say Docker Base Image - that's the terminology upstream Docker uses:

Re: Updated Atomic alpha w/Bash update(s)?

2014-09-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Hi all, It occurs to me that the bash update isn't going to be available for the Atomic image(s) since the users can't install new packages. Right - and this is different from the Docker image base, where users can use yum manually.

Re: Updated Atomic alpha w/Bash update(s)?

2014-09-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014, at 06:43 PM, David Gay wrote: I'm doing a new compose now, and it does have bash-4.3.24-2.fc22. (Which, AIUI, may not actually fix everything per https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-September/122976.html ...but we'll keep the trees flowing) Hey --

Re: Updated Atomic alpha w/Bash update(s)?

2014-09-26 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014, at 04:36 PM, Colin Walters wrote: This content will land in: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/fedora-atomic/repo/ under the fedora-atomic/rawhide/x86_64/docker-host ref. This is done now, and I'm starting a f21 compose now too

Re: Atomic Updates - do we follow traditional model or a new one?

2014-10-08 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014, at 12:26 AM, James Antill wrote: At least one view of the model is that you have atomic upgrades, and thus. rollback/downgrades. This fits perfectly with the f21/f21/f23 release model (although rpm-ostree rebase is very surprising when it deletes your refs, you can still

Re: ostree compose script developments

2014-10-17 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014, at 11:29 PM, David Gay wrote: Hi -- At this point, I thought I'd send out an email with my current understanding of the processes we need to add to the releng scripts for ostree, as well as some questions regarding these compose scripts, specifically: Awesome, thanks

Re: ostree/atomic composes + MM update

2014-10-24 Thread Colin Walters
Thanks again for hacking on this! On Thu, Oct 23, 2014, at 06:38 PM, Luke Macken wrote: This could be done by looking at the filesystem timestamp, or Colin said he would probably add a timestamp field to the summary file that we could pull from. Let's go with filesystem timestamp for now,

Re: help wanted -- test/karma docker-storage-setup

2014-10-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014, at 09:12 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: So.. not the easiest thing to test because I couldn't find any atomic images with this package installed. It is possible to compose trees on your own too, using local packages. A quick HOWTO: yum install rpm-ostree cd /srv git clone

Re: help wanted -- test/karma docker-storage-setup

2014-11-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014, at 09:34 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: As Joe noted the other day, Fedora Atomic is intended to come with this service, which will create storage space for Docker images. As mentioned in the IRC meeting, at this point, the plan is to get this to stable after the beta

final mirrorlist location for Atomic

2014-11-02 Thread Colin Walters
Currently, the Atomic cloud image still tries to contact the compose server internal mirror for updates. Do we know what the final mirrorlist URL will be? Where are we on getting content sync'd out? ___ cloud mailing list

Re: final mirrorlist location for Atomic

2014-11-04 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Luke Macken wrote: I'm not sure exactly where the final bits will live, or what the URL will be, but the fedmsg-atomic-composer is up and running on the composer.stg box and successfully spitting out rawhide f21 trees. Nice. Maybe we can deprecate

Re: help wanted -- test/karma docker-storage-setup

2014-11-04 Thread Colin Walters
this until we get patches landed, please try: https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/fedora-atomic/testing/f21/20141104.0/fedora-atomic-cloud-direct-lvm-walters-20141104.qcow2.gz From c314ed756cc3579d305867a7da13127fa6ceeb98 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Tue, 4

Re: help wanted -- test/karma docker-storage-setup

2014-11-05 Thread Colin Walters
to do it right. (Will look again tomorrow.) These are the two patches that should go on f21, backported from master. And only the first is really needed. From 6986a630452bb4ed75dbbdb40c0629d238c1e64b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:30:28

Re: help wanted -- test/karma docker-storage-setup

2014-11-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 10:37:02AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: These are the two patches that should go on f21, backported from master. And only the first is really needed. Applied. Don't we also need Point to dl.fedoraproject.org

Re: help wanted -- test/karma docker-storage-setup

2014-11-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014, at 04:11 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 12:22:33PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: In the meantime, I'd argue that changing it for the test candidates is a step forward from the internal URL. Although obviously we need it to be more than rawhide.

Debugging the failed Atomic compose

2014-11-06 Thread Colin Walters
Koji task: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7978937 OZ log: https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/8937/7978937/oz-x86_64.log It looks to me like we hung in the rpm -qa listing. Hard to guess why without being able to get in there with a debugger or something =/ Any

Two more (mostly cosmetic) Atomic patches

2014-11-06 Thread Colin Walters
I don't think either of these are the cause of the hang, but I believe they're both correct. Tested with a local ImageFactory run. From 41f019b6d58f59863e282727e695ef196deac87e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 20:34:38 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 1

Re: cloud init update needs testing

2014-11-08 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014, at 09:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Hi all! https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cloud-init-0.7.5-8.fc21 needs testing — let's get this into F21 (and, more to the point, into test candidates, so we can make sure it's thoroughly tested). Hooray. So for Atomic, this gets

Re: final mirrorlist location for Atomic

2014-11-08 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014, at 08:03 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 16:33:57 -0500 Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: Currently, the Atomic cloud image still tries to contact the compose server internal mirror for updates

[PATCH] cloud-atomic: Re-shrink rootfs partitions

2014-11-08 Thread Colin Walters
8cae1be2139094c173cd0af86e515f363204b9af Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 13:27:05 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] cloud-atomic: Re-shrink rootfs partitions mattdm changed these previously because we hit an ENOSPC error during qcow2 image creation, but that *really* happened because

Fedora Change for AtomicHost

2014-11-08 Thread Colin Walters
Initial cut: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AtomicHost Notably, adding bare metal (already working) and vagrant boxes (have prototype code), and I'd like to do a diskless Live PXE image (code exists, need to put it together and polish). This is kept in the Cloud group, but I think the

Re: [atomic-devel] Fedora Change for AtomicHost

2014-11-11 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, On Mon, Nov 10, 2014, at 08:31 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: Er... that's a strange interpretation of how to not call something a system wide change. Even if you had someone doing the rel-eng work, it's still a system wide change. Particularly since it's going across several groups and

[PATCH] build-cloud-images: Use --version of ksflatten, and do show stderr

2014-11-11 Thread Colin Walters
the /dev/null as we'd like to be able to debug if it's failing. --- scripts/build-cloud-images | 6 +++--- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) From 70667ab32be48c03479cc0651e01c935eee284d1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:39:20

cloud-init 0.7.6 now in rawhide

2014-11-16 Thread Colin Walters
cloud-init 0.7.6 now in rawhide. This reduces the depchain even more. Worked here in some local testing, but this is a heads up in case anyone sees fallout: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974327 ___ cloud mailing list

Please karma https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rpm-ostree-2014.111-1.fc21

2014-11-17 Thread Colin Walters
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rpm-ostree-2014.111-1.fc21 Will allow Atomic to be smaller, and also fixes the wheel bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1164058 Please karma. ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Please karma https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rpm-ostree-2014.111-1.fc21

2014-11-17 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014, at 08:18 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Colin, what's the easiest way to test this? (Or ostree updates in general?) See https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/2014-October/004497.html It'd be pretty awesome to have a test plan:

Re: Please karma https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rpm-ostree-2014.111-1.fc21

2014-11-19 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014, at 12:06 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: So I tested this tonight by doing a compose with the new rpm-ostree and then rebasing an existing system [1]. I'll give it some karma but I will note that I don't really know how to test that the wheel group properly got created (by

Re: AMIs for Test Day?

2014-11-19 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 01:59:45PM +0100, Joe Brockmeier wrote: IIRC somebody sent the list of AMIs but I have not been able to dig it up -- do we have a list of AMIs for current Atomic builds to use for tomorrow's Test Day?

cloud image network config, virtio-net, libvirt autodetection, and network vs NetworkManager, F20 vs F21

2014-11-23 Thread Colin Walters
TL;DR: KB, I think the CentOS cloud images should use: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/spin-kickstarts.git/commit/?h=f21id=98c48cb2b2051cc8ca81e95a697e4c8d7c5bd939 Dennis, we should revert:

Re: Adding open-vm-tools package to Fedora Atomic

2014-11-24 Thread Colin Walters
Hi Ravindra, At the moment, we do not have a formal process for this. The problem is further compounded by the fact that there is only one tree. Meaning that open-vm-tools would end up even on other deployment targets such as bare metal, AWS/GCE, etc. At a high level, we are trying to coalesce

Re: Adding open-vm-tools package to Fedora Atomic

2014-11-24 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: It needs some fairly low level HW access, not sure how that would work containerised. If you docker run --privileged, the container has total access to the host, it's no different from any other process running as root. Try it: #

Re: Need help in testing the RC2 cloud images

2014-12-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014, at 03:50 PM, Kushal Das wrote: Hi everyone, We have the RC2 cloud images ready [1]. You can help us by testing the images following [2]. It looks to me like the Atomic tree content is lagging significantly: # atomic status TIMESTAMP (UTC) ID

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014, at 01:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: It's been documented-ish but we do need to be louder about it. It would also be awesome if virt-manager handled cloud-init too, the use an ISO to provide cloud-init info is a little clunky. If anyone's curious, I was trying to argue that

F21 Atomic update available

2014-12-20 Thread Colin Walters
I should have cross posted, but here's the link: https://lists.projectatomic.io/projectatomic-archives/atomic/2014-December/msg1.html ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora

Re: Local DNSSEC resolver and Docker(containers)

2015-01-15 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015, at 08:57 AM, P J P wrote: I'm no expert on Docker(or container) applications. I was wondering if someone could help in testing Docker(or container) applications with the local DNSSEC validating resolver on F21. See https://github.com/docker/docker/pull/9239 My

Re: Testables for beta TC2

2015-03-16 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, On Mon, Mar 16, 2015, at 06:33 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: Is that doing something different / using something different than the image linked in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_22_Beta_TC2_Cloud?rd=Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test Not a different image - the Koji one

Re: Vagrant mounting /var/lib/docker?

2015-03-17 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Hey all, Any Vagrant wizards around? I'd like to figure out how to mount a directory on my local host as /var/lib/docker for the Atomic Vagrant boxen - so users don't have to worry about other ways of expanding the storage to putter

Re: NetworkManager and network services both enabled in Fedora Atomic

2015-03-19 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Matt Micene wrote: I'd be in favor of pulling NetworkManager.  It still seems that network is the way for server class systems to handle networking It's not that simple, at least for Atomic, because the *exact same* tree in Fedora 22 can also be deployed

note: uid/gid breakage in F21 Atomic

2015-03-19 Thread Colin Walters
The latest tree update changed the gid for sshkeys (among other things). It needs a backport of some rpm-ostree fixes: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1203006 Which are waiting on karma here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rpm-ostree-2015.3-1.fc21

Re: dnf in Dockerfiles

2015-03-19 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:10:33AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: So dgilmore pointed out that f22 docker images will not have yum installed - which means we need to update the Dockerfiles for f22 to use dnf and not yum

Re: NetworkManager and network services both enabled in Fedora Atomic

2015-03-20 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015, at 01:09 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:47:22PM -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: I would suggest that we adopt the approach that Fedora Cloud Base takes by just having the Network service enabled. This would also mean we can pull the NetworkManager

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Hey all, I wanted to start a thread about doing more frequent Atomic releases in Fedora. In particular I'd like to start building a new atomic release every two weeks that includes the latest version of Docker, Kubernetes, and

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Adam Miller wrote: For those not familiar with the current release process of Atomic, can you provide a link to documentation on how that is done as well as what tooling is involved? Keep in mind that the original vision for Atomic was *not* to be a

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, at 02:49 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: This one's new to me, I'm aware of the issues with building images but I was under the impression that the composed OStree was still happening successfully whenever rawhide was building. Are you saying there are sometimes where

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: This is not entirely true, it is just part of the picture. You can install on bare metal using anaconda with extlinux, exactly the same as we do to make the cloud image. But it is not advertised or really well documented. But that

Note: Atomic Host integration for F22 at risk

2015-03-26 Thread Colin Walters
This change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AtomicHost is presently blocked on: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6119 Currently Fedora 22 will have Atomic cloud images and vagrant boxes (and an updated tree). It will be *possible* to install to bare metal using kickstart, but the

Re: dnf in Dockerfiles

2015-03-19 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: I think this would break on other machines that do not have libvirt installed on the host. Right, it's a problem orthogonal to the Atomic Host. Scott we found an interesting problem with libvirt protections on

Re: Creating vagrant box from fedora-cloud-base-vagrant.ks

2015-04-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015, at 12:14 AM, Amit Saha wrote: Image build FAILED with error: Timed out waiting for guest to boot There are a number of causes for that unfortunately. So...what i tend to do is hand-mirror the installer media locally, and then edit the TDL to point to it. This is a lot

f21 docker base image and hardcoded root password

2015-05-12 Thread Colin Walters
If anyone has information on https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6170 then please comment (specifically lsm5, but anyone with info). Also this message should serve as a heads up that at least some versions of the Fedora base image had a hardcoded root password, and due to a snafu, we didn't

Re: Starting the Talking Points for F22

2015-04-14 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015, at 09:41 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 08:31:49AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Here's what I'd say, lemme know if this sounds sane: [...] So we've decided that while the technologies are maturing so rapidly, it's better have a fast-moving remix

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-04-07 Thread Colin Walters
[ Resurrecting, adding atomic-devel CC ] On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Hey all, I wanted to start a thread about doing more frequent Atomic releases in Fedora. In particular I'd like to start building a new atomic release every two weeks that includes the

Re: [atomic-devel] Atomic 2 week releases

2015-04-08 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015, at 02:51 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Copr doesn't count. Talked to Tom Callaway about this briefly just now and basically - it must be built in Koji to be part of a Spin, unless we get an exception. A side tag as mattdm mentioned somewhere solves that, no need to rename.

Re: how are the vagrant boxes created?

2015-06-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015, at 03:37 PM, Michael Adam wrote: is this the correct place to ask? Yes. How are the fedora vagrant boxes created? I.e. where is the repository describing the building and how are these things actually built? See: https://fedorahosted.org/spin-kickstarts/ and search for

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-04 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: If you don't have python, you don't have yum/dnf which means updating your kernel in your cloud image at _runtime_ is a PITA. OSTree has built in support for updating the kernel at runtime. The fact that it does so atomically in concert

Re: Testing Docker images (and possibly other cloud images) in CentOS CI

2015-07-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015, at 02:39 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: As you've probably seen, the change calls for dist-git style management of the dockerfiles, which would mean one repo for each one, rather than one mega-repo — the theory being that this can scale better and allow more independence.

Re: Test day bug: Atomic and nfs-utils

2015-05-21 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, May 21, 2015, at 02:36 PM, Colin Walters wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Colin Walters wrote: Hi, During the Test day (and before), several people noted this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1219871 It now has a patch. I tested it with a local

Re: Test day bug: Atomic and nfs-utils

2015-05-21 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, May 9, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Colin Walters wrote: Hi, During the Test day (and before), several people noted this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1219871 It now has a patch. I tested it with a local tree compose. It's nominated now for Blocker/FE. So I

Re: Final RC2 AMIs

2015-05-21 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, May 21, 2015, at 11:36 AM, David Gay wrote: Good morning, everyone. You'll find the final RC2 AMIs in any region by doing a search for Fedora-Cloud-Base-22-20150520 or Fedora-Cloud-Atomic-22-20150520. Let me know if there are any issues. I did some basic non-cluster smoke testing

Re: Local DNSSEC resolver Containers

2015-08-24 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015, at 09:57 AM, P J P wrote: Hello, - https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/2015-January/004867.html As per the previous discussion above, I was able to use iptables(8) DNAT rule to divert DNS traffic from Docker containers to a DNSSEC resolver on the

Re: Cloud image user passwords encrypted by md5 by default?

2015-08-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015, at 01:34 AM, Sitsofe Wheeler wrote: The regular Fedora 22 default for password encryption seems to be SHA512 but I couldn't turn anything up as to why cloud images had made this change. Could some explain why MD5 is used? This was just fixed:

Re: Does Fedora 22 Atomic host install on real hardware for anyone else?

2015-07-13 Thread Colin Walters
Hi Robert, On Mon, Jul 13, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Robert Knight wrote: Failed to pull from repository: g-io-error-quark://run/install/repo/ content/repo: open: No such file or directory (1) This sounds like https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/104 ___

Re: RC* Atomic images are broken

2015-10-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015, at 08:06 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 06:45:09PM -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > Right now the last booting atomic image is TC11. If we don't do > > another compose then we won't have an atomic image for release. > > Can we release the two-week-atomic

Re: Can't run a container with root bind mounted in F23 docker 1.7

2015-10-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 08:40 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > docker 1.7 is what is in the stable f23 repo. with that we can't run a > container with root bind mounted into it: > > ``` > -bash-4.3# docker run -it --rm -v /:/host busybox > Error response from daemon: Relabeling of / is not allowed >

Re: Alternatives to cloud-init (was Re: [DISCUSS] Cloud and Server Workgroup relationship)

2015-11-03 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015, at 04:28 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > Is that the same as this procedure [1]? Or else can you point at the details? > > [1] http://www.projectatomic.io/blog/2014/10/getting-started-with-cloud-init/ Yes. When I want to test the cloud image I often use:

Re: [cloud] #117: [VOTE] Make Atomic the primary focus of the Cloud Working Group

2015-08-26 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015, at 03:00 PM, Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets wrote: 1. The new primary focus of the WG will be the atomic cloud image. Can we try to consistently say Atomic Host when we mean that? There's a number of things under the projectatomic/ umbrella now, and while I know it's

Re: Atomic Host and the kernel

2015-08-27 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015, at 05:09 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: Hi All, I'm emailing my questions on the topic here as it seems to be the best Fedora focused place to discuss Atomic Host and kernel interaction. If that isn't the case, please point me to where you believe that is. As jbrooks pointed

Re: fedora-atomic update for f23 beta

2015-08-31 Thread Colin Walters
index 8761464..ebe7300 100644 --- a/fedora-atomic-docker-host.json +++ b/fedora-atomic-docker-host.json @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ { -    "ref": "fedora-atomic/f23/x86_64/docker- host", +    "ref": "fedora-atomic/rawhide/x86_64/docker-host", "repos": ["fedora-23"], A mistake, right?  Everything else in

Re: atomic builds still broken

2015-09-10 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015, at 12:29 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > Is that the problem that is breaking the builds? How do we get the > location updated? Indeed, the TDL file is broken. I believe for Koji -> ImageFactory, Koji is generating the TDL file from some internal data. Adam?

Re: atomic builds still broken

2015-09-10 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015, at 12:29 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > The bad news is that we are still having the same "mounting" problems > that we were seeing in the rawhide builds where sysroot isn't mounted > properly: See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1235287 Try backporting those systemd

Re: Add net.ifnames=0 to Atomic host

2015-12-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > On 12/04/2015 02:16 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: >> >> >> Right, this would affect them all. As you mention below we were >> intending for this

Re: openQA nightly testing of Cloud Atomic installer image

2015-12-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015, at 08:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! For those who aren't aware, Fedora openQA is set up to test > the Atomic installer image nightly - that's the image that uses > anaconda to deploy a fixed Atomic host payload. For each day's Rawhide, > Branched and post-release

Re: Add net.ifnames=0 to Atomic host

2015-12-04 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > Right, this would affect them all. As you mention below we were > intending for this ("eth0") to be the case for a long time so I > figured we should fix it. You are right that this would be a change > over how we released

Re: Proposal to rework the OSTree commit stream

2015-12-15 Thread Colin Walters
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6313 On Tue, Dec 15, 2015, at 01:48 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > See: > ___ > cloud mailing list > cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/cloud@lists.fe

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