Re: [Cluster-devel] [GFS2 PATCH] GFS2: Block reservation doubling scheme
- Original Message - This patch introduces a new block reservation doubling scheme. If we Maybe I sent this patch out prematurely. Instead of doubling the reservation, maybe I should experiment with making it grow additively. IOW, Instead of 32-64-128-256-512, I should use: 32-64-96-128-160-192-224-etc... I know other file systems using doubling schemes, but I'm concerned about it being too aggressive. I tried an additive reservations algorithm. I basically changed the previous patch from doubling the reservation to adding 32 blocks. In other words, I replaced: + ip-i_rsrv_minblks = 1; with this: + ip-i_rsrv_minblks += RGRP_RSRV_MINBLKS; The results were not as good, but still very impressive, and maybe acceptable: (snip) I think you are very much along the right lines. The issue is to ensure that all the evidence that is available is taken into account in figuring out how large a reservation to make. There are various clues, such as the time between writes, the size of the writes, whether the file gets closed between writes, whether the writes are contiguous and so forth. Some of those things are taken into account already, however we can probably do better. We may be able to also take some hints from things like calls to fsync (should we drop reservations that are small at this point, since it likely signifies a significant point in the file, if fsync is called?) or even detect well known non-linear write patterns, e.g. backwards stride patterns or large matrix access patterns (by row or column). The struct file is really the best place to store this context information, since if there are multiple writers to the same inode, then there is a fair chance that they'll have separate struct files. Does this happen in your test workload? The readahead code can already detect some common read patterns, and it also turns itself off if the reads are random. The readahead problem is actually very much the same problem in that it tries to estimate which reads are coming next based on the context that has been seen already, so there may well be some lessons to be learned from that too. I think its important to look at the statistics of lots of different workloads, and to check them off against your candidate algorithm(s), to ensure that the widest range of potential access patterns are taken into account, Steve. Hi Steve, Sorry it's taken me a bit to respond. I've been giving this a lot of thought and doing a lot of experiments and tests. I see multiple issues/problems, and my patches have been trying to address them or solve them separately. You make some very good points here, so I want to address them individually in the light of my latest findings. I basically see three main performance problems: 1. Inter-node contention for resource groups. In the past, it was solved with try locks that ended with a chaos of block assignments. In RHEL7 and up, we eliminated them, but the contention came back and performance suffers. I posted a patch for this issue that allows each node in the cluster to prefer a unique set of resource groups. It improved reduced inter-node contention greatly and improved performance greatly. It was called GFS2: Set of distributed preferences for rgrps posted on October 8. 2. We need to more accurately predict the size of multi-block reservations. This is the issue you talk about here, and so far it's one that I haven't addressed yet. 3. We need a way to adjust those predictions if they're found to be inadequate. That's the problem I was addressing with the reservation doubling scheme or additive reservation scheme. Issues 2 and 3 might possibly be treated as one issue: we could have a self-adjusting reservation size system, based on a number of factors, and I'm in the process of reworking how we do it. I've been doing lots of experiments and running lots of tests against different workloads. You're right that #2 is necessary, and I've verified that without it, some workloads get faster while others get slower (although there's an overall improvement). Here are some thoughts: 1. Today, reservations are based on write size, which as you say, is not a very good predictor. We can do better. 2. My reservation doubling scheme helps, and reduces fragmentation, but we need a more sophisticated scheme. 3. I don't think the time between writes should affect the reservation because different applications have different dynamics. 4. Size of the writes are already taken into account. However, the way we do it now is kind of bogus. With every write, we adjust the size hint. But if the application is doing rewrites, it shouldn't matter. If it's writing backwards or at random locations, it might matter. Last night I experimented with a new scheme that basically only adjusts the size hint if block allocations are
Re: [Cluster-devel] [GFS2 PATCH] GFS2: Block reservation doubling scheme
Hi, On 10/10/14 04:39, Bob Peterson wrote: - Original Message - - Original Message - This patch introduces a new block reservation doubling scheme. If we Maybe I sent this patch out prematurely. Instead of doubling the reservation, maybe I should experiment with making it grow additively. IOW, Instead of 32-64-128-256-512, I should use: 32-64-96-128-160-192-224-etc... I know other file systems using doubling schemes, but I'm concerned about it being too aggressive. I tried an additive reservations algorithm. I basically changed the previous patch from doubling the reservation to adding 32 blocks. In other words, I replaced: + ip-i_rsrv_minblks = 1; with this: + ip-i_rsrv_minblks += RGRP_RSRV_MINBLKS; The results were not as good, but still very impressive, and maybe acceptable: Reservation doubling scheme: EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 310103 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 343990 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 332818 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 336852 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 334820 Reservation additive scheme (32 blocks): EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 322406 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 341665 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 341769 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 348676 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 348079 So I'm looking for opinions: (a) Stick with the original reservation doubling patch, or (b) Go with the additive version. (c) Any other ideas? Regards, Bob Peterson Red Hat File Systems I think you are very much along the right lines. The issue is to ensure that all the evidence that is available is taken into account in figuring out how large a reservation to make. There are various clues, such as the time between writes, the size of the writes, whether the file gets closed between writes, whether the writes are contiguous and so forth. Some of those things are taken into account already, however we can probably do better. We may be able to also take some hints from things like calls to fsync (should we drop reservations that are small at this point, since it likely signifies a significant point in the file, if fsync is called?) or even detect well known non-linear write patterns, e.g. backwards stride patterns or large matrix access patterns (by row or column). The struct file is really the best place to store this context information, since if there are multiple writers to the same inode, then there is a fair chance that they'll have separate struct files. Does this happen in your test workload? The readahead code can already detect some common read patterns, and it also turns itself off if the reads are random. The readahead problem is actually very much the same problem in that it tries to estimate which reads are coming next based on the context that has been seen already, so there may well be some lessons to be learned from that too. I think its important to look at the statistics of lots of different workloads, and to check them off against your candidate algorithm(s), to ensure that the widest range of potential access patterns are taken into account, Steve.
Re: [Cluster-devel] [GFS2 PATCH] GFS2: Block reservation doubling scheme
- Original Message - - Original Message - This patch introduces a new block reservation doubling scheme. If we Maybe I sent this patch out prematurely. Instead of doubling the reservation, maybe I should experiment with making it grow additively. IOW, Instead of 32-64-128-256-512, I should use: 32-64-96-128-160-192-224-etc... I know other file systems using doubling schemes, but I'm concerned about it being too aggressive. I tried an additive reservations algorithm. I basically changed the previous patch from doubling the reservation to adding 32 blocks. In other words, I replaced: + ip-i_rsrv_minblks = 1; with this: + ip-i_rsrv_minblks += RGRP_RSRV_MINBLKS; The results were not as good, but still very impressive, and maybe acceptable: Reservation doubling scheme: EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 310103 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 343990 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 332818 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 336852 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 334820 Reservation additive scheme (32 blocks): EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 322406 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 341665 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 341769 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 348676 EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 348079 So I'm looking for opinions: (a) Stick with the original reservation doubling patch, or (b) Go with the additive version. (c) Any other ideas? Regards, Bob Peterson Red Hat File Systems
[Cluster-devel] [GFS2 PATCH] GFS2: Block reservation doubling scheme
Hi,
Steve Whitehouse wrote:
| I'd much prefer to see an algorithm that is adaptive, rather than simply
| bumping up the default here. We do need to be able to cope with cases
| where the files are much smaller, and without adaptive sizing, we might
| land up creating small holes in the allocations, which would then cause
| problems for later allocations,
I took this to heart and came up with a new design. The idea is not unlike
the block reservation doubling schemes in other file systems. The results
are fantastic; much better than those gained by hard coding 64 blocks.
This is the best level of fragmentation I've ever achieved with this app:
EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 310103
EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 343990
EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 332818
EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 336852
EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 334820
Compare these results to counts without the patch:
EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 951813
EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 966978
EXTENT COUNT FOR OUTPUT FILES = 1065481
The only down side I see is that it makes the gfs2 inode structure bigger.
I also thought about changing the minimum reservation size to 16 blocks
rather than 32, since it's now adaptive, but before I did that, I'd have
to run some performance tests. What do you think?
Regards,
Bob Peterson
Red Hat File Systems
Patch text:
This patch introduces a new block reservation doubling scheme. If we
get to the end of a multi-block reservation, we probably did not
reserve enough blocks. So we double the size of the reservation for
next time. If we can't find any rgrps that match, we go back to the
default 32 blocks.
Signed-off-by: Bob Peterson rpete...@redhat.com
---
fs/gfs2/incore.h | 1 +
fs/gfs2/main.c | 2 ++
fs/gfs2/rgrp.c | 7 ++-
fs/gfs2/rgrp.h | 9 ++---
4 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
diff --git a/fs/gfs2/incore.h b/fs/gfs2/incore.h
index 39e7e99..f98fa37 100644
--- a/fs/gfs2/incore.h
+++ b/fs/gfs2/incore.h
@@ -398,6 +398,7 @@ struct gfs2_inode {
u32 i_diskflags;
u8 i_height;
u8 i_depth;
+ u32 i_rsrv_minblks; /* minimum blocks per reservation */
};
/*
diff --git a/fs/gfs2/main.c b/fs/gfs2/main.c
index 82b6ac8..2be2f98 100644
--- a/fs/gfs2/main.c
+++ b/fs/gfs2/main.c
@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
#include glock.h
#include quota.h
#include recovery.h
+#include rgrp.h
#include dir.h
struct workqueue_struct *gfs2_control_wq;
@@ -42,6 +43,7 @@ static void gfs2_init_inode_once(void *foo)
INIT_LIST_HEAD(ip-i_trunc_list);
ip-i_res = NULL;
ip-i_hash_cache = NULL;
+ ip-i_rsrv_minblks = RGRP_RSRV_MINBLKS;
}
static void gfs2_init_glock_once(void *foo)
diff --git a/fs/gfs2/rgrp.c b/fs/gfs2/rgrp.c
index 7474c41..986c33f 100644
--- a/fs/gfs2/rgrp.c
+++ b/fs/gfs2/rgrp.c
@@ -1465,7 +1465,7 @@ static void rg_mblk_search(struct gfs2_rgrpd *rgd, struct
gfs2_inode *ip,
extlen = 1;
else {
extlen = max_t(u32, atomic_read(rs-rs_sizehint), ap-target);
- extlen = clamp(extlen, RGRP_RSRV_MINBLKS, free_blocks);
+ extlen = clamp(extlen, ip-i_rsrv_minblks, free_blocks);
}
if ((rgd-rd_free_clone rgd-rd_reserved) || (free_blocks extlen))
return;
@@ -2000,6 +2000,7 @@ next_rgrp:
* then this checks for some less likely conditions before
* trying again.
*/
+ ip-i_rsrv_minblks = RGRP_RSRV_MINBLKS;
loops++;
/* Check that fs hasn't grown if writing to rindex */
if (ip == GFS2_I(sdp-sd_rindex) !sdp-sd_rindex_uptodate) {
@@ -2195,6 +2196,10 @@ static void gfs2_adjust_reservation(struct gfs2_inode
*ip,
trace_gfs2_rs(rs, TRACE_RS_CLAIM);
if (rs-rs_free !ret)
goto out;
+ /* We used up our block reservation, so double the
+ minimum reservation size for the next write. */
+ if (ip-i_rsrv_minblks RGRP_RSRV_MAXBLKS)
+ ip-i_rsrv_minblks = 1;
}
__rs_deltree(rs);
}
diff --git a/fs/gfs2/rgrp.h b/fs/gfs2/rgrp.h
index 5d8f085..d081cac 100644
--- a/fs/gfs2/rgrp.h
+++ b/fs/gfs2/rgrp.h
@@ -13,13 +13,8 @@
#include linux/slab.h
#include linux/uaccess.h
-/* Since each block in the file system is represented by two bits in the
- * bitmap, one 64-bit word in the bitmap will represent 32 blocks.
- * By reserving 32 blocks at a time, we can optimize / shortcut how we search
- * through the bitmaps by looking a word at a time.
- */
-#define RGRP_RSRV_MINBYTES 8
-#define RGRP_RSRV_MINBLKS ((u32)(RGRP_RSRV_MINBYTES * GFS2_NBBY))
+#define RGRP_RSRV_MINBLKS 32
+#define RGRP_RSRV_MAXBLKS 512
struct gfs2_rgrpd;
struct gfs2_sbd;
