Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-11 Thread Sylvain Benner
Brandon Van Every a écrit : CMake's Killer App would be a build conversion evaluator that gives hope to the project, and incrementally leads to a full translation. That is the vision. Do you want to help with that or do you want to leave me to figure it out? If I had time to help, sure I

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-09 Thread Sylvain Benner
First of all I want to clarify some points: I talk only about large scaled development projects and I don't know anything about autoconf. What I had to do is to migrate a large project composed of dozens of Visual Studio projects with no framework to hanlde them and drive them. I decided to

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-09 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Feb 9, 2008 6:43 AM, Sylvain Benner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all I want to clarify some points: I talk only about large scaled development projects I think large scale projects are the only ones worth going after. Medium-to-small projects, like 100K LOC or less, don't need enough

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-09 Thread Sylvain Benner
Training and mastery is often perceived as taking too long though. I think CMake would be a lot better off if it could say, Hey presto here are some results! Enough to make people realize that their conversion isn't hopeless and imponderable, that all they really have to do is dive in and

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-09 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Feb 9, 2008 7:32 AM, Sylvain Benner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Training and mastery is often perceived as taking too long though. I think CMake would be a lot better off if it could say, Hey presto here are some results! Enough to make people realize that their conversion isn't

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-08 Thread Jesper Eskilson
Brandon Van Every wrote: Someone asked me the other day why CMake doesn't do this. I thought I gave him a reasonable answer, that it would be painful to do, and that CMake -- native is a much easier problem than native -- CMake. But I said I would ask here for other people's opinions on it. I

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-08 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Feb 8, 2008 11:30 AM, Jesper Eskilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brandon Van Every wrote: Someone asked me the other day why CMake doesn't do this. I thought I gave him a reasonable answer, that it would be painful to do, and that CMake -- native is a much easier problem than native --

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-08 Thread Sylvain Benner
A convertion tool to CMake is not doable for large projects, because large projects need a framework to be viable. So migrating to CMake implies making or migrating to a new framework. A conversion tool could provide you with working CMakeLists.txt but you will lack a framework around them.

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-08 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Feb 8, 2008 1:14 PM, Sylvain Benner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A convertion tool to CMake is not doable for large projects, because large projects need a framework to be viable. So migrating to CMake implies making or migrating to a new framework. A conversion tool could provide you with

[CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-08 Thread Brandon Van Every
Someone asked me the other day why CMake doesn't do this. I thought I gave him a reasonable answer, that it would be painful to do, and that CMake -- native is a much easier problem than native -- CMake. But I said I would ask here for other people's opinions on it. I have experience converting