ve build systems
associated with them (i.e. .sln files.) Also MSVC is "weird," so a
lot of special work is done for it (and for lookalike compilers.)
Now, is CMake already set up to detect mico-c++? Don't know; I bet
not. But it would be easy enough for you to implem
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On Nov 15, 2007 3:04 PM, Eric Noulard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I currently lack a command which could give me
> all sources files in a directory.
FILE(GLOB ... ?
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7;t you? Variables are propagated to subdirectories, and I
imagine definitions are also. Perhaps you want to put your
ADD_SUBDIRECTORY statement earlier, to prevent propagation of
-D_BUILD_DLL.
Perhaps you want the REMOVE_DEFINITIONS command?
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curve.
Part of the reason I answer people's questions, even if they may at
times tend towards basic issues, is to keep myself "in shape" for
things I'm going to need to do at a later time. Conversely, I don't
tend to bother with problems I think I'm unlikely to run in
Doesn't GCC have #pragma operators to control this from within the
file? MSVC does.
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>
> On a large project I am running into a possible optimization bug in gcc.
> I naile
ch paths, they are whatever the OS + user chose to
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-NOTFOUND is a much
better result than "found weird library that user forgot about that
isn't even compiled for the correct runtime." Realize, Windows is the
platform you're probably looking for this stuff. Keeping MSVC,
Cygwin, and MinGW build environments separate
he other hand, curl really is installed in "curl.h" and
"curl/curl.h" form on various systems, then I agree that CMake should
not hardwire the directory.
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and they're not responsible for what
individuals do. But it strikes me as being pretty dumb. Maybe you
should get on the curl mailing lists and see if you can wrangle some
consistency out of them.
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been any flaps over this.
Meanwhile, here's their license overview.
http://trolltech.com/products/qt/licenses/licensing
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> On Nov 20, 2007 8:36 AM, Bill Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> >
> > >> Anyway, the GPL stuff still stands.
> > >
> > > Why don
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> On Tuesday 20 November 2007 10:45:56 am Mike Jackson wrote:
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nd does something with it, could get themselves in
trouble by not fulfilling the corporate governance conditions of the
Qt GPL Exception. But that's really their problem.
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> I think in the real world, Kitware can distribute QtDialog under
> CMake's license, and Linux distro gatekeepers won't object.
I would suggest making clear reference to the exception in the
QtDialog
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> > I think in the real world, Kitware can distribute QtDialog under
> > CMake's license, and Linux distro gatekee
lexibility is how all software
packages do things. Quite a lot of software packages have standard
directory conventions for #include files.
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trivial project using doxygen?
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> > On Nov 20, 2007 2:59 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Nov 20, 2007 2:41 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> I
t of requirements than
the GPL: the various Linux distro policies. The Qt GPL Exception is
exactly the legal framework needed. Kitware is exactly the kind of
open source company that Trolltech is trying to make life easier for.
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BTW please don't use SUBDIRS, use ADD_SUBDIRECTORY. SUBDIRS is
archaic, has slightly different behavior, and is officially
depreciated in the upcoming CMake 2.6.
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of slashes, etc. I'd
> appreciate hearing from anyone who has got this working.
The mailing list archives say don't use Cygwin gmake for this.
http://www.cmake.org/pipermail/cmake/2006-August/010617.html
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> PS: no, I don't actually care for the GPL but I care about cmake
> staying in Debian main.
It's solved.
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n. i.e.
please cut & paste exact command lines and the full output. Also,
please start "from the top, cleanly" if you do something to improve
the situation.
I can bootstrap on Cygwin without any problems. I'll try on Linux
w
real
world is, once you've learned this stuff you tend to not care anymore.
It's the classic programmer vs. documenter dilemma. That said, I'm
adding a FAQ entry about this.
Is all this written up nicely in the "Mastering CMake" book? I've
never read it. I lear
x27;t work in one of your CMake
environments, using a different one is a common tactic until you
figure out what's going on.
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onfigurations. It would be 10 lines in your favorite scripting
language. Could invoke with "cmake -P mybuildscript" if you don't
mind CMake script and don't want another language dependency.
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ADD_DEFINITIONS, ADD_LIBRARY, REMOVE_DEFINITIONS, ADD_EXECUTABLE.
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wing about GCC and #pragma
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http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Function-Attributes.html
do these help?
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uot; command.
sources = {
"simpleLib.cxx",
"simpleCLib.c",
"simpleWe.cpp"
}
cm_add_library ("simpleLib", "STATIC", unpack(sources));
Would this be necessary / paradigmatic in Lua? In CMake I just use lists.
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the rest
of the world objects to having to learn CMake script. And at present,
I think there are a lot more techies who don't use CMake than do use
CMake.
At present I'm open to the possibility of Lua. I don't have to have
it. Everything on my list of objections could be solved
tem
that the language should handle them gracefully. I don't know enough
about Lua to know whether this is natural in it. It's definitely not
natural in C++ and I wouldn't choose C++ for specifying a build
system.
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marketing. I'm sure there are other things I recommended that weren't
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> 2) It would be a good idea to open a
Bah, wrong mailing list, sorry.
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> I noticed the "unpack" command.
>
> sources = {
> "simpleLib.cxx",
> "simpleCLib.c",
> "simpleWe.cpp"
> }
>
> cm_add_library ("simpleLi
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> > I noticed the "unpack" command.
> >
> > sources = {
> > "simpleLib.cxx",
> &
uild
tools have a history of making strings easy at the expense of other
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an idea just how many quotes and unpack() statements I'd likely be
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essions into the code being produced. Consequently, upgrading is
an expensive proposition that many sites can't undertake just because
a new tool like SCons might require it. When faced with that sort of
choice, it's much less risky and expensive for them to just wal
. I wonder if SCons loses Pythonistas
because it uses an old Python?
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the point?
> I would say to most
> outsiders, seeing Lua 5 used instead of Lua 6 is still a much less
> significant deal than users having to worry about learning CMake
> script and also dealing with their own version changes (1.8 vs 2.0 vs
> 2.2 vs 2.4 etc).
I've been around since 2.2. CMake *script* hasn't changed much since
then, just the available functions.
Ok, my current opinion is straight Lua ain't quite good enough. Can
we turn it into 95% Lua that's 100% CMake?
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e language bugs
- popularity boost for 5 years
- some advanced programming constructs gained
Anyone want to add to this?
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> At 11/28/2007 01:06 AM, Brandon Van Every wrote:
> >On Nov 28, 2007 12:56 AM, George Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe I am missing the obvious, but I am trying to unde
On Nov 28, 2007 1:48 AM, George Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/28/07, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - better scoping
> > - higher quality, outsourced documentation
> > - outsource core language bugs
> > - popularity boost for
ons, so I'm not understanding what you're asking. I
assumed that Kitware is ready to act when they have time to do so.
Did you miss that discussion? Did it leave you with a bunch of
unresolved questions? If so, I'd suggest going back into the archive
and responding to specif
ng, we're not going to do
it for them. We just have to parse the keywords like STATIC, and pay
attention to fixed positions at the beginning of an argument list. In
fact, come to think of it, "if it's a CMake reserved function, hand it
off to a special argument processor," would solve much of the problem.
Then you're just down to changing Lua table constructors, so that
they don't require quotes.
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> For any given CMake function, we know what argument types we expect.
> The programmer is responsible for dereferencing, we're not going to do
> it for them. We just have to parse the keywor
reference to external Perl,
Python, or Ruby code. People wouldn't have much need for those if
CMake's language features were sufficient.
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it's the subject line.
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> > I'd also like a shorter way to dereference a table than
> > unpack(table).
>
> Seriously, this is a total non-issue and unpack is totally unnecessary.
The argument evaluation model matters
refix rootlist)
SET(outlist)
FOREACH(root ${${rootlist}})
LIST(APPEND outlist ${prefix}${root})
ENDFOREACH(root)
SET(${rootlist} ${outlist})
ENDMACRO(ADD_PREFIX)
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On Nov 28, 2007 1:25 AM, Stefan Kögl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> how to instal
iable name
scope has merit, but I will let others debate the pros and cons of it.
Frankly, I see it as a race between the supposed ease of improving the
CMake language, and the demonstrated ease of slapping Lua into it.
With provisios about whether we really want straight Lua; at present I
don'
On Nov 28, 2007 6:45 AM, Stefan Kögl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > You need to know the names of the files that will be generated and
> > then INSTALL(FILES ...)
> > Typically I just have a hardwir
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> > On Nov 28, 2007 3:17 AM, E. Wing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Right now I think it's just an experiment to see how things migh
on that I would
> like to set the compiler through cmake script if possible. Is there anyway
> to do this?
I don't get it. If I pick a compiler via CMakeSetup, I'm telling you
what build I want. What do you mean?
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ndows mobile 6
> symbian
> etc.
I would just send error messages for what I don't support. I would
not try to dumb it down. You could inform the user what you actually
support with 1 error dialog box, end of problem.
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> Brandon Van Every wrote:
> > On Nov 28, 2007 2:47 AM, Pau Garcia i Quiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Talking about Ruby, could someone please paste his wishlist about
> >
On Nov 29, 2007 12:37 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We all have our points of view about how important various
> things are. Alexander has gone on record as anti-complexity; he
> Considers Programming Harmful in a build system. I don't agree with
>
only want to replace the 1st
thing you matched.
I want lines to be "properly" matched with anchors. This is a compile
option in PCRE.
0005380: REGEX ^ and $ do not match on multi-line
http://www.cmake.org/Bug/view.php?id=5380
Here are some bugs that hopefully just aren't present
Lua into CMake. Ken has shown proof-of-concept that it's
doable, but there's no consensus that it's desirable.
Do you feel the documentation of macro() is adequate to explain the
formal argument processing, or is more needed?
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On Dec 2, 2007 5:02 PM, pepone. onrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Any ideas for this task
Aren't the CMake docs sufficient to explain this? FIND_PROGRAM... or whatever.
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>
> I whant to view the commands that are running with out of the arguments ,
> there are any options for enable this
make VERBOSE=1
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> I invoke the macro by calling it with C2ADA(${LIST_OF_FILES} ADS).
>
> Is there a possibilty to do what I want by using another command?
You want variable arguments. Look in the MACRO docs for ARGC, ARGV, and ARGN.
C
ilable in a production CMake. When's the
next minor rev due out?
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> code path to ...\CMake\Source. Any ideas what is going on? Thanks.
I'd completely throw out your source and binary treees, start your
build from scratch, and make sure it's absolutely clean, without PATH
interference from other versions of CMake.
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If "${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}" contains regex special characters,
you'll have to double escape them.
string(REPLACE
"\\"
""
escaped_path "${toplevel_path}")
string(REGEX REPLACE
"([][.?*+|(
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> No, there is no way currently in cmake to switch compilers once picked...
Which I think is a good thing. It would drive me nuts if I couldn't
count on the compiler choice as an invariant.
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> > Subject: Re: [CMake] Using Macro function like
> >
> > On 03.12.07 05:47:29, Brandon Van Every wrote:
> > > On Dec 3, 2007 5:41 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I invoke the macro by calling it with C
ot;
source_and_after "${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}")
if(source_and_after)
string(REGEX REPLACE
"${source_and_after_regex}"
"\\1"
after "${source_and_after}")
# REPLACE replaces all occurrances, not just one.
# Sometimes this causes probl
MAND ${CMAKE_COMMAND} -G whatever_generator -D whatever_defines -D [...]
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investigate why CMake (any CMake) doesn't work on the "problem"
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as simple as the level of complication of your
build. If I want encapsulation, I write a macro. Otherwise I'll just
write straight CMake script, because I'd rather read CMake script than
the docs of 5 different Unixy tools that all do their own kind of
regular expression processing.
Cheer
statement
> > is still TRUE.
>
> It is checking to see if the VARIABLE has a value at all. It is old
> code before we had IF(DEFINED VARIABLE) but works with all versions of
> CMake.
One of these days I'm going to try to construct a pathological input
to make it barf. But I
ow to solve this one.
Through hacking, one finds the bleeding edge of CMake. When I've
found the bleeding edge, I try to obtain 1 of 2 results:
- an approach that works. If it's hairy, I may file a feature request.
- a bug that's reproducible. In which case, I file a bug report.
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that (c)cmake --help is under-documented
on this point.
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> When running CMake from the command line, how can I specify the directory to
> put the output files in. Thanks.
>
> Jesse
>
> _
e an
abnormal result. There were bugs regarding CMake script return codes
once upon a time; hope those were fixed.
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uch easier to replace when migrating
build systems. Sure, CMake has this "call out to whatever you like"
philosophy. But I think builds are more maintainable and portable
when CMake gets rid of all those tools. I also think it's
strategically better for CMake's growth, to ha
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#x27;t think
that's quite enough to make the switch. What I'd really like to see,
is an example of a build system that's much better in a "fullblown"
language like Lua, that would be extremely painful to write in a
stripped down language like CMake. We'll have to ask other build
communities about such a project; obviously it won't exist in CMake
code.
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take their issues seriously. I will remind:
far more people don't use CMake, than do. Having to learn Yet Another
Scripting Language is one of the perceived barriers. So addressing
the issue, or *appearing* to address the issue, is strategically
important.
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people examine other
build systems and return with tangibles, i.e. "this is clearly better"
rather than "I think it would be better."
I agree that Kitware hasn't been persuaded of the value of using a 3rd
party open source la
may gain plenty of mindshare as a build tool. But CMake script will
never do so. It is incapable of that. It is not recognized by the
computer industry as an important development language, and it never
will be.
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think
overhauling the string-oriented variables to make them list-oriented
is feasible. And in one's own code, one has to choose whether to
embrace a string-oriented or list-oriented flag handling style. More
grist for the chapter.
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," I'd call that a documentation problem.
CMake script users shouldn't have to look under the hood to figure out
how use CMake modules either.
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> Brandon Van Every escreveu:
>
> > I'm not willing to concede the clarity. As I just wrote, "backwards
> > compatibility" is an issue to solve, not a dealbreaker. As for labor,
As long as I adopt a convention for what's a list
and what's a string. And as long as I don't care about semicolons ;
in my list elements.
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> On Friday 14 December 2007, Brandon Van Every wrote:
> > On Dec 14, 2007 2:38 PM, Bill Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It really boils down to this: There is no way we can ever sto
On Dec 14, 2007 10:57 PM, Rodolfo Lima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brandon Van Every escreveu:
>
> > Most of my concerns about nicety of
> > language are strategic, not tactical.
>
> Let's not forget that cmake is being used by KDE, I think they wouldn't
know where they went, and what competing products they're
working on.
> and are just happy to have the software build
> correctly the first time they build it. (I could have fixed at least
> one but instead of writing this email :) ).
Short-term vs. long-term gain is
On Dec 15, 2007 1:55 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 2007 12:41 PM, Bill Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > There are some vocal
> > complainers about the language, but I suspect there is a silent majority
> > that
aintaining significant new CMake
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t type var = var - 1. The problem with assuming that "0"
means FALSE, is it assumes I got my "0" by counting with a MATH
expression. What if I got my "0" by matching with a regex, like a
digit of a library version?
"-NOTFOUND" doesn't trouble me so much, a
On Dec 16, 2007 11:57 AM, David Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/16/07, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > What's so great about "n" and "no" ?
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> Nobody has claimed that they are great...
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> &g
On Dec 16, 2007 1:11 PM, Gonzalo Garramuño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brandon Van Every wrote:
> > Waf is the offering of a fellow
> > who clearly thinks OO is important in a build system for some reason.
> > http://code.google.com/p/waf/
> >
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> A quick ev
On Dec 16, 2007 1:44 PM, Alexander Neundorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 16 December 2007, Brandon Van Every wrote:
> > On Dec 16, 2007 11:57 AM, David Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 12/16/07, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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On Dec 16, 2007 1:54 PM, Alexander Neundorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Sunday 16 December 2007, Brandon Van Every wrote:
> > On Dec 16, 2007 1:11 PM, Gonzalo Garramuño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Brandon Van Every wrote:
> > > > Waf is
currently means. CMAKE_*_LIBRARY_EXTENSION could be a
documented synonym for it. CMAKE_*_LIBRARY_SUFFIX could be moved to
the depreciated section of the docs, but its behavior would remain
unaltered.
CMAKE_*_LIBRARY_POSTFIX could serve the purpose of "_d" a
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