Stus-List Coin under the mast.

2018-01-02 Thread Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List
The ceremonial practice is believed to originate from ancient Rome. One theory is that, due to the dangers of early sea travel, the coins were placed under the mast so the crew would be able to cross to the afterlife if the ship were sunk. I like the gatekeeper reference! Cheers, J-G Callisto

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Ok so now I'm confused and concerned. Neil Schiller got me thinking about the science and standardization of the torque specs. Wet, dry, tension, yield strength... So I did some investigating. I expected that the specs on the c photo album would loosely correlate to those in a standard

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-02 Thread John McKay via CnC-List
The specification sheet from the C site says a 1" bolt, 1 1/2" bolt is 350 foot pounds John on EnterpriseC 33 MK II On Tuesday, January 2, 2018, 6:30:46 PM EST, Ron Ricci via CnC-List wrote: #yiv1337371246 #yiv1337371246 -- _filtered #yiv1337371246

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
John, I'm interested in the reason behind your selection of the UK origin and the threepenny bit denomination. Josh On Jan 2, 2018 7:08 PM, "john sandford via CnC-List" wrote: Have a UK threepenny bit under my mast. Sitting on the keel bolt, and clearcoated.

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread john sandford via CnC-List
Have a UK threepenny bit under my mast. Sitting on the keel bolt, and clearcoated. Portcullis up. The same year as I was born. I thought the coin was to pay the ferryman. Well that's what I'm saving mine for anyway. John LF38 #234 From: Paul E [mailto:dre...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-02 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Last season, I ended up having my boatyard doing this. I have no idea of the last time this was done but it was before 2010. The boatyard used Ken Heaton’s torque values. In order to loosen some of the nuts, an impact tool was required. - Ron From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
A Canadian dime is perfect. What could be more fitting than the schooner bluenose! Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 2, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: > > Ok Guys, > > I searched the web and the list archives and I can't find any guidance on > mast coins. Can

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIVERPOOL-Sailing-Ship-HALF-PENNY-Condor-1793-Coin/253336433319?hash=item3afc0732a7:g:8vwAAOSwSQFaRtxo Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Ok Guys, > > I searched the web

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
You can try engraving a QR code (;-) Marek From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul E via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 16:59 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Paul E Subject: Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast Fred, On another note, I

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Paul E via CnC-List
Fred, Since the Landfall was manufactured in the USA, maybe you should have used a 1979 Susan B. Anthony Dollar. On another note, I wonder how one would put a Bitcoin under the mast. - Paul E. 1981 C 38 Landfall S/V Johanna Rose Fort Walton Beach, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-02 Thread Bill Dakin via CnC-List
Correct, clean and dry threads. Galling of the threads affects the values as well. An example, extremely critical torque values (also clean and dry) extend to engine head bolts and if studs and nuts are used. Lube of any kind could cause values to change either a little or a lot. Bill Dakin S/V

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
nks, > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C 37+ > Solomons, MD > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list. > com/attachments/20180102/3f9afb80/attachment-0001.html> > > -

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Paul E via CnC-List
t; > Thanks, > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C 37+ > Solomons, MD > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180102/3f9afb80/attachment-000

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-02 Thread schiller via CnC-List
The torques listed are for clean, dry threads. If you lubricate the threads, reduce the torque by 10%. 1983 C 35-3, #028 "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan On 1/2/2018 3:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: Ok Guys, Since I have the mast out, this provides the rare opportunity to access ALL of

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-02 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Hi Josh, I've continued to use 600 lbs for the 1.5" bolts as I've re-torqued them occasionally. I've used a 2-1/4" socket for those but the 2-3/16" you listed may be a better fit, I'm not sure. I think bolt #7 is actually a 1-13/16" nut, 1-1/8" stud, torqued to 400 lbs. Perhaps you should

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Canadian because C was a Canadian manufacturer. Although my boat was built in Rhode Island. I guess I’m doomed. Well, the dollar had a sailboat on it, anyway. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Jan 2, 2018, at 2:24 PM, Josh

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Heads up, of course. Otherwise the boat would want to flip over… at least in this hemisphere… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Jan 2, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote: > >

Re: Stus-List Mast step

2018-01-02 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Hi Josh, I think this is what you are referring to? See the linked photo. My inner liner was cut, just a little bit, to allow removal of the step. This photo is from 2011, before I repainted the mast step: https://photos.app.goo.gl/kIhvCzgNuoQWex4W2 Ken H. On 2 January 2018 at 15:48, Josh

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
And Canadian because that's where the boat was built or because of some other affiliation? On Jan 2, 2018 3:23 PM, "Josh Muckley" wrote: > Fred, heads up or heads down? > > On Jan 2, 2018 2:55 PM, "Frederick G Street via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >>

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Fred, heads up or heads down? On Jan 2, 2018 2:55 PM, "Frederick G Street via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Agreed — when I pulled the mast for a rewire a couple of years ago, I went > on eBay and found a Canadian silver dollar the same year as my boat and > stuck that down on the

Re: Stus-List Mast step

2018-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Bruce, The step can be pretty well seen from all angles with the table and floor boards removed. I don't think that there is much to fear in regards to is "rotting" away. The aluminum and fiberglass stringers are fairly robust and resilient to the marine environment. I'm kinda just looking to

Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Ok Guys, Since I have the mast out, this provides the rare opportunity to access ALL of the keel bolts. I've measured each of the bolt and nut diameters and checked the archives for torque specs. I intend to buy a toque multiplier and the appropriate sized sockets. I think I can do it for less

Re: Stus-List Mast step

2018-01-02 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hi Josh, I have no experience with this whatsoever, but please be so kind as to keep me abreast of your work, as I have the same boat.  In hindsight, is there a way to determine the condition of the step without pulling the mast? Thanks!  Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile)

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Agreed — when I pulled the mast for a rewire a couple of years ago, I went on eBay and found a Canadian silver dollar the same year as my boat and stuck that down on the step with a dab of silicone. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield,

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Use silver!? Why not just go with gold! That will never corrode! Haha! Some of the limited internet wisdom was to use a coin with a certain date, nationality, metallurgy, or monetary value. But I couldn't exactly find any firm guidance. Josh On Jan 2, 2018 2:46 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via

Stus-List Mast step

2018-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Ok Guys, I've had the mast pulled for a complete refit and to the best of my ability to observe, it appears that the step has never been removed. It looks terrible and horribly corroded. It is aluminum and I'm not sure that the 30 years of corrosion has necessarily compromised the beam but

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Face up or down.  Neil Andersen 20691 Jamieson Rd Rock Hall, MD 21661 From: CnC-List on behalf of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 2:45:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della

Re: Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Since copper corrodes aluminum, don’t go cheap. Suggest a silver dollar ;) Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 2:35 PM To: C List Cc: Josh Muckley

Stus-List Coin under the mast

2018-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Ok Guys, I searched the web and the list archives and I can't find any guidance on mast coins. Can someone give me an idea of how to ensure poseidon's luck is bestowed upon me? If it makes any difference it would appear that no coin was placed under the mast beforehand and poor luck has no

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill adaptors ABYC

2018-01-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
My fill pressure for CNG is lower than my scuba tanks, so I am 100% sure a tank that would physically be a 60 cubic foot scuba tank is not holding more than 60 cubic feet of gas. You can figure it out for sure here: http://www.divebuddy.com/calculator/tankvolume.aspx Btw - with 2$ refills, I

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill adaptors ABYC

2018-01-02 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
Not that simple. You also need to know the compressed gas pressure, and apply the Charles and Boyle ideal gas laws to figure out an approximation. The rated volumes are for the amount of gas the cylinder contains at the nominal fill pressure, when expanded to standard temperature and pressure.

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill adaptors ABYC

2018-01-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Airplanes mostly are held to the standard in place when they were *built*. My last surveyor wanted all kinds of things done to comply with rules that did not exist in 1973 and I declined most of them on that basis. The insurance was OK with that. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill adaptors ABYC

2018-01-02 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Here is a simple calculator. https://www.mathopenref.com/cylindervolume.html Mike PERSUASION C 37 K/CB Long Sault > On Jan 2, 2018, at 12:39 PM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List > wrote: > > Steve and Joe: that's the best news I've heard all year...(ha,ha) so, do I > send

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill adaptors ABYC

2018-01-02 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
Steve and Joe: that's the best news I've heard all year...(ha,ha) so, do I send this information to the surveyor, and request an amendment to the survey recommendations...or go directly to my insurance company? Thanks again Richard s/v/Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill adaptors ABYC

2018-01-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
100 cubic feet is a BIG tank. I am pretty sure my tank would be a 60 as a scuba tank. I am 99% sure it is smaller than my 80 scuba tank. Joe Coquina BTW - ABYC and Federal Regulations <>. Plenty of ABYC stuff is not required by any law. ___

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill adaptors ABYC

2018-01-02 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
There should be some sort of marking on the tank, but consider that the vast majority of SCUBA tanks are around 80 cubic feet. If the tank is around that size, and it probably is, then it is likely ok. Worth checking anyway. Steve Thomas bushmark4--- via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill adaptors ABYC

2018-01-02 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
Steve, thank you for the info; , not having any experience with CNG, how do I tell if my tank is less than 100 cubic feet? Richard s/v/Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill adaptors ABYC

2018-01-02 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
CNG cylinders do not have to be in a separate locker if the total installed capacity of the tanks is less than 100 cubic feet. https://law.resource.org/pub/us/cfr/ibr/001/abyc.A-22.1993.pdf Steve Thomas C MKIII C bushmark4--- via CnC-List wrote: I have a CNG

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill adaptors

2018-01-02 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
I have a CNG stove which came with my boat (1985 C 37): it has the same CNG cylinder being discussed: my problem is that in a recent insurance survey (June 2017), the surveyor made it a point to state that the cylinder must be stored in a separate locker: *7.5 As per ABYC A-22, secure the

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill location

2018-01-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Cars use the same adapter fitting as the eBay thing – that is why I bought it. $70-$100 at a marina vs. $2 at the car CNG station Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of detroito91 via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 12:05 AM To:

Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill adaptors

2018-01-02 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Bill I bought one of the adaptors like the one Joe pointed out on eBay. The nearest “exchange” location is hundreds of km from here over an international border and Persistence has no propane locker. I contacted our local Gas company and they have a testing location where they are able