Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2018-12-30 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Just to piggyback on the stuck seacock thread. My buddy is a salvor. He gets the call when a boat on our bayou is on the bottom. A significant percentage of the sinkings involve plugged cockpit scupper drains. Leaves and/or debris plug the drain(s). The cockpit fills with rain water. The

Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue

2018-12-30 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Through hull valves are required since they are below the waterline. This way you can control flooding if the hose fails. They also facilitate hose replacement while the boat is in the water. Josh On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 1:22 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: > John,

Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue

2018-12-30 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
John, Josh, Andrew, et al... While I fully agree with all of the statements about making sure the cockpit drains are always open, it got me to thinking, so why do they put seacocks on them in the first place?   The only thing I can think of is if you're in the middle of the ocean and need a

Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue

2018-12-30 Thread John Russo via CnC-List
I am the 2nd owner of a 1984 C 32 and have sailed her for 14 yrs and never had reason to close the cockpit drains and as mine were stuck when purchased I assume the previous owner never closed them. Make sure the hose and connections are good and forget it. I would be more concerned with

Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue

2018-12-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I only ever operate my cockpit drains to make sure they still move. They are open otherwise. One jammed and when the boat was on the hard, I plugged the thru-hull from underneath and poured some Marvel Mystery Oil down the drain. The next day I pulled the lug, drained the oil, and the valve

Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue

2018-12-30 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
Cockpit drain valves should always be open whether on the boat or not – otherwise there is no way for water in the cockpit to drain. The valve is there solely in the event the hose breaks or leaks. I also have frozen valves. Have owned the boat for 20 years and never exercised them – just

Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue

2018-12-30 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I apologize for creating confusion. For the reasons stated by Andrew Burton, DO NOT shut cockpit drains. Period. My statement was supposed to be that having seacocks open while not in use, or while away from the the boat was an invitation for desaster. A better practice would be to relocate

Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue

2018-12-30 Thread PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List
Maybe dumb question but I have only been sailing on C 40 for 3 years. (J24 Catalina oday all had open cockpit drains out stern) When sailing do people regularly close cockpit drains I am on the side mine are always open but I did service mine which required them to be taken apart(frozen

Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue

2018-12-30 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Cockpit drain seacocks most assuredly should not be closed when no one is aboard...unless you plan to swim in your cockpit! Andy Andrew Burton 139 Tuckerman Ave Middletown, RI USA02842 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Dec 30, 2018, at 05:10, Josh

Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue

2018-12-30 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
The 32’s are crossed (or are originally). The old barrel style seacocks are a pain in the a$$, but can be disassembled. I have one now myself to do (head intake). I have been told that the square headed screw showing in your picture can be replaced by a zerc (so?) fitting to make lubing

Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue

2018-12-30 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
That was poor engineering to begin with. Seacocks should be closed when not in use and more importantly when not on board - particularly those below the water line. There is no time when your cockpit drains will not be in use. Besides, seacocks that are inaccessible never get closed. I suggest