Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-09 Thread Nathan Post via CnC-List
Shawn, On my 34 the deck to bulkhead fittings also leaked and as I found out were installed through cored laminate that had rotted so they were not doing much good. I recored the deck and used a piece of ~6x6” 1/2 inch thick g10 fiberglass in place of balsa where the tang bolts. Planning on cutt

Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-09 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
A 1974 can't be the Northeast 39, but the older model C&C 39 with sweptback shark fin keel and pinched stern of that era. Based on the PHRF for the '74 C&C 39 average of 105 and the '86 41 of 66, I'd predict the 39 is much slower but maybe more comfortable sailing offshore. Their weights are v

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-09 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Our 35-2 has plenty of creaks but she still feels tough. I understand the grid reinforcement that C&C and most others switched to in the late 70s/early 80s is responsible for a lot of the stiffness of the later boats. In our case, the tangs holding the top of the forward bulkheads to the deck were

Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-09 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Harry Hallgring. Owner of Mirage, Northeast 39 lying NEB. Years ago after delivering a J-120 to NEB. I walked over and talked to him at length. I was contemplating the colors that I might paint “Ronin” and was leaning to some of green. I had been really impressed with the color that Harry pai

Re: Stus-List Re fiddle castings.

2020-06-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Understand the vendor wants to make it right. But wondering what other alternatives would be if castings weren't available or if someone chose not to replace them. Does the radius match commonly available teak outside corner fittings, I wonder? I'm guessing the profile wouldn't match exactly. I

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-09 Thread Glenn Henderson via CnC-List
I have driven our 41 mercilessly. Not because I want to abuse the boat, she seems to thrive in it. She just feels very tough. We have no creaks or groans except for the forward cabin door that came loose because of the motion. The 41 is an impressive design. Glenn and Lindsey Henderson C&C 41 WeGo

Re: Stus-List Re fiddle castings.

2020-06-09 Thread Tim Rutherford via CnC-List
Yeah, the coating shop felt terrible. Yours to powder, mine into puddles... Vendor promises to make it right though. Wonder what the material is...? On Tue, Jun 9, 2020, 08:53 Rob Ball via CnC-List wrote: > Interesting . . . . > > > > I didn’t think there were stainless ones there . . . . but

Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-09 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Ummm . . . I don’t mean to ruffle any feathers Matt, but my recollection is that I was usually ahead of you . . . . Well, OK, unless it was a long spinnaker run. You are more fearless. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matt Wolford via CnC-List Sent:

Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-09 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
The fellow who owns that NorthEast was on the list for a time, he posted a lot of his progress pictures as he refurbished that boat, I believe he works at the Portsmouth yard. So he really knew what he was doing. He did a bang-up job on it. Having done a lot of that work on my 39 I would say b

Re: Stus-List Universal water pump

2020-06-09 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
Excellent explanation. When I check my impeller in the spring I just massage it with Vaseline. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote: > >  > Typical closed/freshwater/glycol loop pump with standard metal impeller. > > See attached photo. > > J

Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII

2020-06-09 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
45 years ago, accidental jibe on my Star – Watched in slow motion as the top of the mast curled around and came down. Decided then and there, no more Running backs for this kid. Bill Coleman, Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Risch via CnC-

Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-09 Thread Chuck Borge via CnC-List
Yikes! I stand corrected. The Northeast 39 is a beautiful design, regardless. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Rob Ball via CnC-List > wrote: > > Wow - Different boats . . . > > The C&C 39 was designed before the C&C actual formation - before the IOR rule > . . . > > Th

Re: Stus-List Universal water pump

2020-06-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
While we're on the subject of water pumps for Universal diesels, remember that Oberdorfer now makes a replacement pump (N202M-908) for the OEM G908 Sherwood raw water pumps that came on many Universal diesels (M-12, M-18, M20, M-25, M-25XP, M30, M40, M50). The Oberdorfer is not only cheaper but th

Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-09 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
Wow - Different boats . . . The C&C 39 was designed before the C&C actual formation - before the IOR rule . . . The C&C 41 is a much later design - much larger (longer waterline) designed in the hayday of IOR . . . The Northeast 39 was a limited production run at the Custom Shop - higher leve

Re: Stus-List Universal water pump

2020-06-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Typical closed/freshwater/glycol loop pump with standard metal impeller. See attached photo. Josh ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use

Re: Stus-List Universal water pump

2020-06-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Centrifugal pump theory. https://youtu.be/lmjIQqo8mX4 Josh On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 11:47 David Knecht via CnC-List wrote: > I thought I might have had a problem with the fresh water side of the > cooling system of my Universal M4-30 engine because it was heating water > very slowly. I now think t

Re: Stus-List Universal water pump

2020-06-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
This is not exactly how the flexible vane pumps work but pretty close. The idea of expanding and contracting volumes is well shown. https://youtu.be/L30JpM8Lv_A Josh On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 11:47 David Knecht via CnC-List wrote: > I thought I might have had a problem with the fresh water side of

Re: Stus-List Universal water pump

2020-06-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The glycol closed circuit is referred to as the freshwater loop. This loop is circulated the same way as the coolant in your car. A pump half shell is mounted to the engine block which makes up the other half. The two halves sandwich a metal impeller which creates the driving force, works on the

Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-09 Thread Chuck Borge via CnC-List
Will, There is a 1985 Northeast 39 here in Portsmouth that is nearly the same boat as the 41, and was completely refit. I nearly scooped it up before I took on repairing mine. Worth a look. It’s listed on yachtworld. I think there is room to negotiate. Also, I’m still thinking about the #2,

Re: Stus-List Universal water pump

2020-06-09 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Yes similar impeller, Almost all tabs were cracked badly at base on both sides Of center And pump needs to be loosened / removed to Get Belt back on anyway The wheel on the pump had a sleeve inside which needs to be put in correctly so they set screw can get all the way to the shaft of the pum

Re: Stus-List Universal water pump

2020-06-09 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Hi John- My manual makes no maintenance period recommendation for the fresh water impeller. Not mentioned in maintenance at all. Does yours? I am unclear on why the raw water needs periodic maintenance and the fresh water does not. Is it a similar rubber impeller? Dave S/V Aries 1990 C&C 3

Re: Stus-List Re fiddle castings.

2020-06-09 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Love to see a pic of the stainless fiddles, wowza! John Conklin S/V Halcyon S/V Heartbeat www.flirtingwithfire.com On Jun 9, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Rob Ball via CnC-List wrote:  Interesting . . . . I didn’t think there were stainless ones there . . . . but I got the painted ones from Rob at Sou

Re: Stus-List Re fiddle castings.

2020-06-09 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
Interesting . . . . I didn’t think there were stainless ones there . . . . but I got the painted ones from Rob at South Shore . . . (after I tried powder-coating the old ones – which turned into powder) . . . While working here at Edson, we did a stainless version for Barry Carroll to use on

Re: Stus-List Universal water pump

2020-06-09 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Just rebuilt my freshwater pump on my 3HM which was done aftermarket as it covers the engine ID plate. Was leaking just a bit but the bit caused some rust and ceased the engine kill switch on that side of engine Needed impeller change anyway ;) John Conklin S/V Halcyon S/V Heartbeat www.flirt

Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-09 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
My 42 Custom is rated 81, and Bill would hang in there boat for boat (often with only two or three people on board). From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 8:37 AM To: C&CList Cc: Jack Fitzgerald Subject: Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-09 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
According to Robert Perry, the C&C 39 is the prettiest fiberglass sail boat built. I have owned my 1974 39TM since 1976 and really have no complaints. Sure there are issues with the fact that boat is getting old but I have maintained & updated her to the point that she is actually a better boat now

Stus-List Re fiddle castings.

2020-06-09 Thread Robert Gallagher via CnC-List
Call South Shore Yachts. They have them in stainless steel. Please be seated with a cold beverage and an empty paper bag when you get a quote. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly apprecia

Stus-List White rudder

2020-06-09 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
Hi John Over 20 years painted blue - no issues. Might be an issue if the rudder is saturated with water which would heat up on land during summer John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jo

Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-09 Thread Will Gerstmyer via CnC-List
Had a ‘86 41 and am looking at a ‘74 39. Does anyone have comments on the differences/advantages? Thanks, Will Will Gerstmyer 978-609-1331 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciate