Hi Jim and Wally....I always wondered about that little pin forward of the rudder...it has poked me more than once. It must be a C&C 'enhancement' as I find it on no other boats in the yard. It looks like the pin is just a stud...that there are screw threads up into the fiberglass. The explaination offered sounds reasonable, but, if so good...why haven't other mfg's picked up onit.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz49si3Z0GdDOVMzV0Rrdlk4c1U/edit?usp=sharing Spencer Johnson 1984 C&C LF 38 "Alegria" #165 ~~~_/) * ~~~~ Mount Prospect, IL -----Original Message----- From: cnc-list-request <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 11:02 am Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 102, Issue 18 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com r, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific han "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." oday's Topics: 1. Re: small hole in front of LF38 rudder tube (Jim Watts) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 08:48:19 -0700 rom: Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com> o: w...@wbryant.com, 1 CnC List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> ubject: Re: Stus-List small hole in front of LF38 rudder tube essage-ID: <CA+jZ0FfGBwO113zjFNZ4-kNM-2NPW+karrECx5S_uV_8v2n=g...@mail.gmail.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I think it's easier to replace the pin, and judging from the angle of mine t has deflected a lot of stuff. If it saves you from even one episode of loating line jammed in between the rudder and hull...it's worth it. Here's a shot from last year's haulout, before the pressure wash so the OP an see what it looks like intact. < ttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1rJ1svhNAf8/U7wSJ1agY_I/AAAAAAAACRM/pG__hZMRryY/w1170-h822-no/pin.jpg im Watts aradigm Shift &C 35 Mk III ictoria, BC n 7 July 2014 21:49, Wally Bryant via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> rote: > Paul - I have a 1.5 inch long metal stud sticking out of the bottom of my hull about six inches in front of the rudder. Somewhere I have a picture, but never put it on a web page. Every time I haul I wonder if I shouldn't just cut it off, but figure what the heck it's not causing a problem so leave it alone. Bottom line: Clean the hole out and fill it. It doesn't go through the hull, obviously, or you wouldn't have time to ask the question. <VBG> The hull is very thick there (possibly 1.5" or more) and a good vinylester or epoxy resin thickened up, with a little patch of cloth over it will make it go away. Here's what I think: The LF38, with a shoal draft, was originally designed with a different rudder. When I was looking at pictures of them before buying mine, I noticed that some older boats had a shallow rudder that extended forward of the post, so that the post was about five inches behind the leading edge of the rudder. (Just behind the little stud.) It had the same surface area as my rudder, but didn't extend as deep. From a cruising perspective this makes total sense. You don't want to be on the hook or pushing through shallow water with a deep rudder, because in any kind of chop or swell the boat will rock over the keel (I wanted to say hobby-horse, but I've been on boats that hobby-horse) and you don't want to bang the rudder against the bottom. I think that the shallow rudder design didn't work. Perhaps the boat didn't sail as well, or perhaps someone decided that there was no point building a bunch of unique rudders, when there was a darn good rudder for a darn good 38 sitting on the shelf. Personally, I appreciate the big deep rudder on my boat, and I get a lot of lift from it when the boat is trimmed well. It's about six inches shorter than the keel, and I always keep that in mind when crossing a sand bar in wind or swell. I think that the little stud was there to keep things (fishing lines, lady's underwear) from fouling up the rudder/hull joint. That would probably work with a rudder that was only an inch behind the stud, as the offending item would slide down the stud and hit the leading edge of the rudder. I don't think it has much value with the rudder you have, so fill the hole and move on. And, here's where everyone will call me a heretic and burn me at the stake. Once I had to do a spot repair, in three hours, to fix a mistake made by a boatyard worker. My boat was taking on water, and the yard boss was insisting that it was my fault, <*SNIP*> Okay, I deleted 5000 words because I was getting metaphysical. Plug the hole and go sailing. Wal Paul wrote: > I have come across a small pencil-sized hole in my LF38 hull located a > few inches forward of the rudder tube. I am not certain of the intent of > this hole, but I do recall that on my old 29-1 that it had a short > stainless rod coming out of the hull from about the same location(a line > diverter?). My guess is that the LF38 had a similar rod which is now > missing. I am thinking of filling the hole. Does anyone know what this > hole actually is and is there any reason why it should not be filled? > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ------------- next part -------------- n HTML attachment was scrubbed... RL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140708/3d00153a/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ nC-List mailing list nc-l...@cnc-list.com ttp://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ----------------------------- End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 102, Issue 18 ****************************************
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