Re: Stus-List Harken original roller furler parts

[T power via CnC-List]

I'm missing the jib feeder on my Fuler, I would be interested in that for sure


Tom Power
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:42:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Stus-List Harken original roller furler parts

Listers:

Due to the inability to replace a broken torque tube, I am upgrading
from a Harken original roller furler (1980s vintage MK 1, but not called
that), Unit 2, to the newer Harken model.  The new one is nearly finished,
and I cut up/recycled the old foils.  Before I recycle the rest of the old
parts, does anyone have an interest in them (aside from the broken torque
tube)?  Please advise if you do.  Thanks.

Matt Wolford
C 42 Custom


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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Harken original roller furler parts

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I am interested in the screws that hold the shield piece that hides the drum 
and keeps the line from coming off of it.
Joe
Coquina
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Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I have a sail pack custom made by my sail maker - Clark McKinney at Quantum
Sails in Solomons, MD.  It makes packing the sail quite simple but be
warned, the boom height can still make zipping the pack and flaking down
the sail a bit awkward.  I shopped around to various sail makers and off
the shelf products and finally decided on the customizations afforded by
using a local canvas maker.  Had I done it myself with the existing lazy
jacks my lead would have come off the mast too low and too narrow.  I have
a tides marine strong track with 5 battons so the stack height had to be
carefully accounted for.

I was also involved with the design of the forward part of the pack cover.
Some have a large flap that wraps around the front of the mast and zips
into the opposite side.  I didn't like the unanswerable question of what
happens to this flap during the sail?  Another design option (better but
not great) is to have the flap unzip on both sides of the pack allowing it
to be removed completely during sail use.  I was concerned about potential
chafe of the zippers on the sail and mast.  The sail maker took my
suggestion and built a short sail cover.  It works like a normal cover and
goes on top of the closed sail pack, its just short.  It extends about 2 or
3 feet down the boom.  It finishes off and protects the leading edge of the
pack and sail and also protects the head board of the sail.

Since then the same sailmaker has further experimented and has developed a
schrunchie elasticated area that automatically closes the leading edge of
the pack with no other action required by the user.

Get with me off list and I can provide pictures, costs, and contact info.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Wed, May 16, 2018, 2:10 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> Has anyone installed a Stack Pack (
> http://www.doylesails.com/stackpack/index.html) or similar? Pros? Cons?
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
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Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[Thomas Perison via CnC-List]

Looks good - am I process of using Quantum Sails for some work- will check into 
this w them. 

R/

Tom
S/V Therapy
‘84 C 29 MkII
Solomons MD


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> On May 16, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you zoom in on this picture you can get a bit of an idea what ours looks 
> like.  Since we were only anchored for the night we didn't put the leading 
> edge cover on.  I don't know where we got the term from but we call that 
> cover the "horse collar".
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1ybmhLUktmMEhFR1k/view?usp=drivesdknvP1ybmhLUktmMEhFR1k/view?usp=drivesdk
> 
> Josh Muckley 
> S/V Sea Hawk 
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018, 2:10 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Listers,
>> 
>> Has anyone installed a Stack Pack 
>> (http://www.doylesails.com/stackpack/index.html) or similar? Pros? Cons? 
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Edd
>> 
>> 
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island, NY 
>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

If you zoom in on this picture you can get a bit of an idea what ours looks
like.  Since we were only anchored for the night we didn't put the leading
edge cover on.  I don't know where we got the term from but we call that
cover the "horse collar".

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1ybmhLUktmMEhFR1k/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Wed, May 16, 2018, 2:10 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> Has anyone installed a Stack Pack (
> http://www.doylesails.com/stackpack/index.html) or similar? Pros? Cons?
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

This is what our main looks like after just dropping it, without taking any
time to zip the cover shut or to put the separate front cover on (similar
to Josh's setup).

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vcTap2SToF8/WlARaGxmTCI/AAABqLU/8OJ_WtmY6JkgY7o6zOjQfjyXcRM2G92mACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_2574%2BSalazar.jpg

This is what it looks like zipped up and with the front cover on as well:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U-z3eISLNhQ/WlAUw3PY9WI/AAABqMY/te2nqCik-GUjlHJoZvQPfRKgWtKgWLoqwCPcBGAYYCw/s1600/20130811_Salazar%2Bat%2BBen%2BEoin%2BMarina_0030.JPG

Ken H.

On 16 May 2018 at 20:04, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I have a sail pack custom made by my sail maker - Clark McKinney at
> Quantum Sails in Solomons, MD.  It makes packing the sail quite simple but
> be warned, the boom height can still make zipping the pack and flaking down
> the sail a bit awkward.  I shopped around to various sail makers and off
> the shelf products and finally decided on the customizations afforded by
> using a local canvas maker.  Had I done it myself with the existing lazy
> jacks my lead would have come off the mast too low and too narrow.  I have
> a tides marine strong track with 5 battons so the stack height had to be
> carefully accounted for.
>
> I was also involved with the design of the forward part of the pack
> cover.  Some have a large flap that wraps around the front of the mast and
> zips into the opposite side.  I didn't like the unanswerable question of
> what happens to this flap during the sail?  Another design option (better
> but not great) is to have the flap unzip on both sides of the pack allowing
> it to be removed completely during sail use.  I was concerned about
> potential chafe of the zippers on the sail and mast.  The sail maker took
> my suggestion and built a short sail cover.  It works like a normal cover
> and goes on top of the closed sail pack, its just short.  It extends about
> 2 or 3 feet down the boom.  It finishes off and protects the leading edge
> of the pack and sail and also protects the head board of the sail.
>
> Since then the same sailmaker has further experimented and has developed a
> schrunchie elasticated area that automatically closes the leading edge of
> the pack with no other action required by the user.
>
> Get with me off list and I can provide pictures, costs, and contact info.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018, 2:10 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> Has anyone installed a Stack Pack (http://www.doylesails.com/
>> stackpack/index.html) or similar? Pros? Cons?
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Edd
>>
>>
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island, NY
>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

I agree with everyon here.  I put mine on a year ago when the 37/40+ had a main 
cover that needed immediate replacement.  It not only makes the main really 
easy to reply and zip back up (eliminating flaking, tyingand putting on the 
cover), the sail drops onto it.  I added one othe thing to address Dan's 
concern - a downhaul on the main.  This way I can pull it all the way into the 
pack.  I had an extra clutch  so between that, a block and a couple bullet 
blocks, it was done.
Best upgrade so far!


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 Original message From: Daniel Sheer via CnC-List 
 Date: 5/16/18  4:43 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Daniel Sheer  Subject: Stus-List 
Anyone Have A Stack Pack? 
Pegathy has a stack pack made by Chesapeake sailmakers. It's wonderful. Head to 
wind, drop the main, zip it up. 

Well, not quite that easy, usually have to push the sail of the top edge of the 
pack and inside, but close.
The front comes off and the pack can be lashed to the boom for racing, with the 
jacks tied along the mast for minimal windage. This requires a loose foot main.
One of the most beneficial improvements I've made to the boat.
Dan SheerPegathy - LF38Rock Creek off the Patapsco

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Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

Has anyone installed a Stack Pack 
(http://www.doylesails.com/stackpack/index.html 
) or similar? Pros? Cons? 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 








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Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[Daniel Sheer via CnC-List]

Pegathy has a stack pack made by Chesapeake sailmakers. It's wonderful. Head to 
wind, drop the main, zip it up. 

Well, not quite that easy, usually have to push the sail of the top edge of the 
pack and inside, but close.
The front comes off and the pack can be lashed to the boom for racing, with the 
jacks tied along the mast for minimal windage. This requires a loose foot main.
One of the most beneficial improvements I've made to the boat.
Dan SheerPegathy - LF38Rock Creek off the Patapsco

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Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Hi Edd

Rod Stright (C 99 Equinox) had one on his former boat (Frers 33).  I raced 
with him one Wednesday evening when he had just returned from a delivery and 
the Stack Pack was not yet replaced with his racing main.  I was very surprised 
at the performance from this sail.  After the race it almost disappeared it 
stowed so quickly.

I was very impressed with the sail

If I had a much larger budget for Persistence a Stack Pack main sail would be 
near the top of my list for deliveries and cruising.

I think the biggest drawback would be switching from racing sails to cruising 
sails.  The stack pack is like lazy jacks with a line attached up the mast that 
is not used when racing.  Could be a pain but I suspect could also be tied down 
near the shrouds when not using stack pack the way I do with  lazy jacks.

Mike

Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 4:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

Listers,

Has anyone installed a Stack Pack 
(http://www.doylesails.com/stackpack/index.html) or similar? Pros? Cons?

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log









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Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Mike,

Thanks. I don’t race the Enterprise any more (can’t fit any more trophies in 
the case) and now only use her for day sailing and cruising. 

I didn’t raise the main once last year simply because it’s such a PITA to flake 
and tie up when dropping the sail, especially when it’s just two of us on 
board. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 








On May 16, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi Edd
 
Rod Stright (C 99 Equinox) had one on his former boat (Frers 33).  I raced 
with him one Wednesday evening when he had just returned from a delivery and 
the Stack Pack was not yet replaced with his racing main.  I was very surprised 
at the performance from this sail.  After the race it almost disappeared it 
stowed so quickly.
 
I was very impressed with the sail
 
If I had a much larger budget for Persistence a Stack Pack main sail would be 
near the top of my list for deliveries and cruising.
 
I think the biggest drawback would be switching from racing sails to cruising 
sails.  The stack pack is like lazy jacks with a line attached up the mast that 
is not used when racing.  Could be a pain but I suspect could also be tied down 
near the shrouds when not using stack pack the way I do with  lazy jacks.
 
Mike
 
Persistence
Halifax, NS
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 4:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?
 
Listers,
 
Has anyone installed a Stack Pack 
(http://www.doylesails.com/stackpack/index.html 
) or similar? Pros? Cons? 

All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
 


   
 



 
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Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

This Lister is Listening !
 I just asked the same question to Chuck! Mack Pac,  Stay Pac, doyle  It is a 
pain  for sure with no real assistance at this point.




From: CnC-List  on behalf of Edd Schillay via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 3:09:22 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

Listers,

Has anyone installed a Stack Pack 
(http://www.doylesails.com/stackpack/index.html)
 or similar? Pros? Cons?

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's 
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Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Everything Dan said.  We really like ours, it makes the main as easy to use
as the roller furling Genoa.

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia




On 16 May 2018 at 17:43, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Pegathy has a stack pack made by Chesapeake sailmakers. It's wonderful.
> Head to wind, drop the main, zip it up.
>
> Well, not quite that easy, usually have to push the sail of the top edge
> of the pack and inside, but close.
>
> The front comes off and the pack can be lashed to the boom for racing,
> with the jacks tied along the mast for minimal windage. This requires a
> loose foot main.
>
> One of the most beneficial improvements I've made to the boat.
>
> Dan Sheer
> Pegathy - LF38
> Rock Creek off the Patapsco
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?

[svrebeccaleah via CnC-List]

I put one on my LF39 DUE to the center cockpit. It has a line at the mast that 
allows me to open and close it. Worth every penny. Mine is from Doyle. 


Doug Mountjoy Rebecca Leah LF39 POYC, WA.


 Original message From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 Date: 5/16/18  12:09  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edd Schillay  Subject: Stus-List 
Anyone Have A Stack Pack? 
Listers,
Has anyone installed a Stack Pack 
(http://www.doylesails.com/stackpack/index.html) or similar? Pros? Cons? 


All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BCity Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log








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