Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread Rich Knowles via CnC-List
On rereading the rant, I disagree with one point: The ranter attempts to score a point by noting that the EchoCharge never stops providing charge current to the auxiliary battery. That voltage is about 13.0 volts, a perfectly sustainable long-term charge voltage and a very useful one as it

Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I was too busy with a CRYC board meeting to get a wiring diagram done, so here is the Blue Sea version. http://content.www.bluesea.com.s3.amazonaws.com/images/reference/battery_management_wiring_schematics/2batt_1eng.png This is basically what I have. Blue Sea makes a number of battery management

Stus-List Lister racing across Gulf of Mexico

2014-05-06 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
One of our listers, Steve Thorne, is racing his CC 34/36 WK Deja Vu in the Regatta al Sol. The race begins inside Pensacola Bay and finishes at Isla Mujeres, Mexico, a distance of 555 nm. He is in the cruising division which starts Wednesday at 1100 CDT. The racing division starts a day later.

Re: Stus-List how to build a house - hate missing a good rant

2014-05-06 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
I hate it when I miss a good rant. Please change subject line when ranting so that we can all see and appreciate a rant! Many subjects are of lesser interest to me so I delete entire batches of emails based on subject line. Dang - a good rant missed. -Original Message- From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List how to build a house - hate missing a good rant

2014-05-06 Thread Rich Knowles via CnC-List
The noted rant was on another site and referred to in our battery discussion. You may have deleted the reference:) Rich On May 6, 2014, at 9:20, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I hate it when I miss a good rant. Please change subject line when ranting so that we can

Re: Stus-List Lister racing across Gulf of Mexico

2014-05-06 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Very cool! Best of luck. Joel On Tuesday, May 6, 2014, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: One of our listers, Steve Thorne, is racing his CC 34/36 WK Deja Vu in the Regatta al Sol. The race begins inside Pensacola Bay and finishes at Isla Mujeres, Mexico, a distance of 555

Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
And if anyone’s interested, I’ve got a spare Blue Sea 8280 panel I’d sell you for a very reasonable price. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On May 6, 2014, at 6:52 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
…and that price is….? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On May 6, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List

Stus-List Charging with engine, was mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread via CnC-List
At the risk of beating a dead horse (battery), I have one more question for the list. When the average sailboat engine is running, what is the likely charging voltage to the battery or batteries? Unless one has an alternator output controller which matches the recommended voltages for the

Re: Stus-List Charging with engine, was mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Most alternators I’ve seen (without an external regulator) will put out about 13.8V to 14.4V when charging. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On May 6, 2014, at 10:54 AM, via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: At the risk of

Re: Stus-List Charging with engine, was mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread Rich Knowles via CnC-List
An alternator, if no external smart regulator is present, will put out whatever the internal regulator is set at. It could be anything from 13.4 V to around 14. For a shore charger it is best to have a smart charger that will reduce the voltage to around 13.2 to avoid boiling off the

Re: Stus-List SIFTING TRUTH FROM POLITICAL FICTION, by Jack Alexanders

2014-05-06 Thread jackmccall via CnC-List
When will you stop blaiming Bush for everything?  Like I said Carter's failed policys are what caused the ragheads to attack our embassy's and bomb New York. Bushs didn't cause it but they both fought back against there evil doings. WALK SOFTLY AND CARRY A BIG STICK. That is the only thing that

Re: Stus-List Charging with engine, was mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
An alternator with a fixed set point will try and reach that voltage but not go over. It may not be able to reach it if the batteries are low and/or demand is high, but it will not go over. I have an adjustable regulator with a set screw to turn the set point from about 12 to 15 volts. Various

Re: Stus-List Charging with engine, was mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
BTW – this book is excellent resource for all these kinds of things: http://www.amazon.com/Boatowners-Mechanical-Electrical-Manual-Essential/dp/0071432388/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1399394884sr=8-1keywords=nigel+calder+electrical Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I

Re: Stus-List Charging with engine, was mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
It is excellent! I have it on my iPad/Iphone so it is always aboard. Joel On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: BTW – this book is excellent resource for all these kinds of things:

Stus-List POLITICAL RANTS ARE INAPPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST

2014-05-06 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
Please shut up or I will support banning *anyone* who throws this shit into a sailing site. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Charging with engine, was mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
One big issue here is that a lot depends on how much you use your batteries and how much you use your engine. If you motor a lot, you may have a chance of recharging the batteries (fully or close to it and even overcharging them (as Joe said)). But if you mostly sail and use the engine as

Re: Stus-List POLITICAL RANTS ARE INAPPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST

2014-05-06 Thread jackmccall via CnC-List
I am sorry for my mistake.  Replied to the wrong email. Jack McCall Pop'Aye CC 41 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date:05/06/2014 1:27 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List POLITICAL RANTS ARE INAPPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST

2014-05-06 Thread Colin Kilgour via CnC-List
because CnC-list@cnc-list.com wasn't sufficiently clear? (I'm with Jim on this one) Cheers, Colin On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 2:02 PM, jackmccall via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am sorry for my mistake. Replied to the wrong email. Jack McCall Pop'Aye CC 41 Sent from my

Re: Stus-List POLITICAL RANTS ARE INAPPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST

2014-05-06 Thread Stu via CnC-List
The political email was sent to the list by error and the sender has apologized. No more emails are necessary. Stu___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List September NE rendezvous

2014-05-06 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
I understand that it's scheduled for September 19 - 21 -- the weekend after the Boatshow -- at Ft Adams in Newport. The plan is to have grills, a tent of some sort, and the whole dock reserved for us. I've spoken to the folks at CC and they are amenable to the idea of having the new CC 30 and

Stus-List POLITICAL RANTS ARE INAPPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST

2014-05-06 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
Agreed. There's enough of that crap on Facebook and other social networking. Let's keep this civil and about SAILING. I'm still in the yard but finally about splash in a few days. 2 months in the making, the boat if starting to look awesome.. -Francois 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier,

Re: Stus-List POLITICAL RANTS ARE INAPPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST

2014-05-06 Thread JOHN D IRVIN via CnC-List
Enough, already. It was a screw up. On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 2:30:29 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The political email was sent to the list by error and the sender has apologized.   No more emails are necessary.   Stu ___ This

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 100, Issue 18

2014-05-06 Thread Stephen Thorne via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Charging with engine, was mixed batteries

2014-05-06 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Typical voltage regulator on an automotive alternator will provide 13.6 to 13.8 volts when the engine is running. As the batteries get charged up, which happens pretty quickly for a starting battery, the internal resistance of the battery will increase and the voltage will drop below 13.5. The

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 100, Issue 18

2014-05-06 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
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