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I hope you get this on time, I made a trip to Kiev, Ukraine and had my bag
stolen from me with my passport and personal effects therein. The embassy has
just issued me a temporary passport but I have to pay for a ticket and
I suggest you use some of the gold your cousin the prince has in Nigeria to
pay the bill :)
Joe Della Barba
j...@dellabarba.com
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IRVIN via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:12 AM
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Funny, same thing happened to a friend of mine in Singapore. Same hotel,too!
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 11, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
I suggest you use some of the gold your cousin the prince has in Nigeria to
pay the bill J
Joe Della
There was another 40 in CT that was asking 29k recently. Same tall rig and
deep draft. It's gone. There are lots of these.
Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
I sometimes pick up donated boats for the
the funny thing is that they even left the stus-list in the subject.
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eBay is an auction site where anyone can list anything.. So it's random.
I have had some great deals on both new an old stuff. For sailing stuff
don't forget to look for for the ebay UK site it seems to have a lot more
'Specialist stuff as they call it. Shipping from the UK has not been a
Best one I got was a WARNING KEY WEST MARINA ROBBERY email.
It was a warning from a guy who was asked to rub suntan lotion on two very
attractive girls wandering local marina. While he was doing this, their
accomplice stole his wallet from his car.
He said he got robbed Monday, Tuesday,
Steve,
As much as I love my 35/3, the 40 is a lot more boat for less money! I
would not let another 6 inches of draft stop me unless I planned to cruise
the Bahamas.
Joel
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
There was another 40 in CT
The VERY best scores for sailors are - of course - dumpster scores :)
I found two excellent winch handles on top of the dumpster in Annapolis. A
little WD-40 freed up the plastic handle part and they are good as new.
Next to the Rock Hall dumpster I got a 4 foot antenna extension that looked
7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be
marginal at best.
I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the keel
off and bolted on a bulb from Mars Metal to bring the weight back to spec. At
least back then the cost of doing this was
Which John Irvinn or John Irvin am I talking to?
John, where are your family and friends?
And hopefully there is more than one flight out of Kiev.
On 2014/07/11 8:11 AM, JOHN D IRVIN via CnC-List wrote:
I hope you get this on time, I made a trip to Kiev, Ukraine and had my
bag stolen
Draft and draft limitations are interesting markers for some. To me there is no
right or wrong, just comfort level. Or slip depth…
We have acquaintances in the Annapolis area who regularly cruised the Bahamas
with one of the original CC 40’s with it’s deep draft. They had no problems
and when
There was an early CC 39 ('71 model if I remember correctly) in
Jacksonville that had the keel chopped and a (home made ?) bulb bolted on.
The owner told me that he could access his skinny water slip but that the
boat no longer sailed as it did originally.
He decided to sell the boat and it sat
If 'John' was stuck in Nigeria would you send him money?
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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:07 AM
To: john.irv...@hotmail.com; JOHN D IRVIN; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Terrible
I'd pitch in...
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Terrible Ordeal(HELP)!!! John Irvin
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:31:44 +
If
FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake,
while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can
lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds,
when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's
None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go.
They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in
Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps
Narrows, etc….
Joe Della Barba
j...@dellabarba.com
Horses for courses. Deep-draft boats--like Peregrine--are wonderful
puttering around the Northeast or Northwest...or Mexico... or the
Caribbean. And I bet I could find any number of beautiful anchorages in the
Chesapeake that would suit me just fine, though it might be a long row over
to Joe's
It would be no problem at Higgins in St. Michaels (in the travel lift area or
on the end of the T dock), but I could swim to it from my slip I'd love to
try it coming from the north in Kent Narrows - think I could get past the turn?
Gary
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From: Joe Della
Up here in New England, what you hit when you run aground is often a
boulder or a rock ledge, not soft forgiving Chesapeake mud! For that
reason, I would never even consider a boat that drew over 5 feet. Too
many places I could not visit at all, and too many obstacles everywhere
else.
Bill
Bill,
Where in NE? Up here in Buzzards Bay and surrounds I can count on one hand
where I cant take my 7 1/2' draft.
David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:11:31 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?
From:
I like the Chesapeake; it's all soft mud, which means that with enough
horsepower pretty much every place is accessible with deep draft. And
there's a channel for getting back out. Granted it'd only be a foot or two
wide...
Bill, where are you going in New England that more than five feet is too
Between NYC and Newport R.I. (Long Island Sound, Fisher's Island Sound,
and between the forks of Long Island)
Bill Bina
On 7/11/2014 11:17 AM, David via CnC-List wrote:
Bill,
Where in NE? Up here in Buzzards Bay and surrounds I can count on
one hand where I cant take my 7 1/2' draft.
My boat draws 5.5 feet. Im not too worried about navigating in Narragansett
Bay, over to the south side of the Cape or out to Block Island. I will
probably avoid Woods hole for a number of reasons. Just need to pay
attention as always.
Usually enough wind to get her well heeled over the thin
Andrew, you would have to stay away from most of the Eastern shore. As Joe
mentioned, the channels leading to both Kent Narrows and Knapps Narrows are not
deep enough - I've been aground in each with 5 feet (and trying to stick to the
known deeper areas - neither is passable with 7). With seven
The issue is not sailing to places across deep water. The issue is where
you can stop and visit. In the area I outlined, a 7.5 foot draft would
eliminate probably something like 75% of the nicest anchorages. Maybe
more. I have been sailing this area for over 50 years.
Bill Bina
On 7/11/2014
I grew up in Huntington (my wife in Greenwich). We went down there a few years
back (in September...glorious time of year) and visited the old haunts.
Stayed at Indian Harbor Yacht club and Northport. Went in and of Huntington
and I was a wee bit draft concerned.
I guess the nicer
Interesting phishing trip.
The recent StuList email has his home hotmail addys
john.irv...@hotmail.com, JOHN D IRVIN john.ir...@rogers.com,
I received an identical one to personal inbox from this addy:
JOHN D IRVIN reading...@yahoo.ca
He was on Stu'sList a couple of years ago. My guess
6.5' of a 35-3 hasn't held me back from visiting those area (but I am often
aground in my slip in Branford). The 3GM helps with that...
Tim
Mojito
Branford, CT
On Jul 11, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Between NYC and Newport R.I. (Long
You win!
At 06:36 AM 11/07/2014, you wrote:
The VERY best scores for sailors are of course dumpster scores J
I found two excellent winch handles on top of
the dumpster in Annapolis. A little WD-40 freed
up the plastic handle part and they are good as new.
Next to the Rock Hall dumpster
How much overnight cruising do you do? Do you stop at marinas, or do you
anchor out most of the time? Have you tried some of the nicer anchorages
like Mattituck Inlet, or do you stick to the larger, more crowded
anchorages? I tend to think you might be sailing right past most of the
best
Yes to Mattituck and the Thimbles, which I first explored by SUP and Laser...
On Jul 11, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
How much overnight cruising do you do? Do you stop at marinas, or do you
anchor out most of the time? Have you tried some
I would expect it is proper to have a latch AND a good seal. The
whole purpose of a propane locker is to send vapour (leak) overboard.
If a large leak escapes through an improper seal then you have a
potential path to the interior via the companionway. Not good.
As Chuck points out, a
Got me beat!
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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:48 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?
The issue is not sailing to places across deep water. The
Joe Della Barba
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Heading toward Maine later this summer. I don't think 7.5' will be a
problem there.
One of my joys with cruising my boat since I got her last year, is actually
getting to stop and explore the places I visit. I sail between harbors.
Sometimes that takes a while if there's not much breeze. But in
I am replacing ports in an old Allmand 35. What a job! They're the
plastic opening ports from Gray Enterprises (Pompanette) that you see on a
lot of older Hunters. Screwed in from inside with a protruding lip and
trim ring on the outside.
The cut out in the coach roof was oversized by 3/8 to
In Florida, any draft of more than 5 feet severely limits you, mostly to major
ports.
You can get around many parts of Biscayne Bay, but forget about the Gulf side
of the Keys, which has some great cruising spots. With a deeper draft, you can
anchor in spots on Hawk’s Channel and dinghy in,
You do well for someone who normally doesn't dumpster dive:)
Rich
On Jul 11, 2014, at 13:03, Russ Melody via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
I would not normally look inside a dumpster, but I did fish out a large
Bimini top made out of
I agree Joe.
That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18
ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too
shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me
and not trying to convince anyone to change
Don't get too ambitious and go up to the Middle River area.. just came from
there and you have to stay between the lines.
Gary
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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:10 PM
Hi Russ,
Propane is 1.5 X the density of air I.E. it goes down like water.
On my boat, the CC engineered propane locker is under the floor just ahead
of the steering quadrant and the lid is a removable triangle shaped false
floor that goes from a point under the steering Binnacle to cover the
Have to lookup Middle River.
We explored Cat Tail Creek last weekend. GPS has done a great job keeping us
from bumping the bottom. Ran thru many winding turns past several moorings and
beautiful waterfront homes as far as a sidewheeler w a french name sitting on a
lift. Turned round when I
Francous,
Do you have two tanks there?
Chuck
Resolute
1990 CC 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:36:48 PM
Subject:
Coquina was not purchased because we needed the shallow draft, she was
purchased because the previous owners moved to Barnaget Bay and had only about
4 feet at their dock. They bought a centerboard CC, a Corvette IIRC. Coquina
spent 12 years on the Magothy and then another 12 on the Severn
Hi Chuck,
Yes I do. They are 2 slim (About 6.5 inch diam) and kinda tall tanks I
believe they hold 6 LB. We use the propane oven / cooktop regularly and I
have yet to have to re-fill. One of the few things I did not have to
replace / rehab :-)
-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ Take Five
Lake
Geeze skip, I thought you were in New Hampshire... there I was going on about
Kittery and such. LOl
You really are close by! What Marina are you at? I may be looking for a new
home for Lolita...
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From: Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Gotta visit Corsica River one of these weekends.
My crew seems more focused on anchoring out, swims, kayaking, and sightseeing
close to Broad Creek.
We will explore more as we get used to this new to us way of cruising.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 CC 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
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Anyone try dynemma for lifelines?
I found at least one source for lifeline hardware with eye ends for high tech
line.
http://www.downwindmarine.com/Johnson-Over-Center-Pelican-Gate-Hook-with-Eye-p-91000377.html
Seems like it would be easy to install and replace as needed.
But would there be
Mark,
My understanding with Dyneema is that you will need to replace it often. If you
race seriously, the lower weight could be worth the added expense and upkeep.
Otherwise, wire would be the way to go.
There's a company I've used in the past to replace the lifelines on the
Enterprise-A
I had similar questions but after talking with a rigging specialist, I'm
pretty well sold on the dyneema. You will have to get good at making a
locked brummel splice. This alone could be enough for some people to look
to a professional. Make sure you have enough extra length to practice
with.
Yes. Used those hooks too. You need to tension the line before you measure
and leave room for more stretch.
Joel
On Friday, July 11, 2014, M Bod via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Anyone try dynemma for lifelines?
I found at least one source for lifeline hardware with eye ends for high
I did the Amsteel 1/4 lines. At first I used a fid I made from a large hollow
darning needle, but later learned to use a simpler coat hanger to pull the end
through. I followed Samson's method to taper the end and measured the bury to
about 22 I think. They give you fid lengths that equate to
I put shroud covers over the lines where the jib crosses the lifeline to
protect the sails.
Joel
On Friday, July 11, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
I did the Amsteel 1/4 lines. At first I used a fid I made from a large
hollow darning needle, but later learned to use
You are welcome to use my mooring if I am not on it.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
CC 35 MK I
j...@dellabarba.com
From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:20 PM
To: Joe Della Barba; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft
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