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2014-07-31 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Wow! A fully tweaked C&C 43. Beautiful lines. Sweet sheerline and love how the cabintop blends into the foredeck. Great upgrades. First class job, but I don't think they'll get half of what they are asking. There are so many other choices on the market for less than $175K. Chuck Resolute 19

Re: Stus-List Proper Process for Head Pump Out + reducing head odors

2014-07-31 Thread Monty Schumpert via CnC-List
That’s what I do — flush one or two gallons of fresh water through the head during pump out when the pump runs dry. Seems to work OK. I also pour about a cup of Hydrofil, which I get from Fawcetts in Annapolis, in the head and flush into the tank several times between pump outs. This works bett

Stus-List Roller-furled jib sheets and symmetrical spinnaker

2014-07-31 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
Still trying to get the hang of racing with a symmetrical spinnaker - and sorely in need of advice! I am setting up the pole with the lazy jib sheet over the pole and forward of the pole topping lift (taped back at the mast end of the pole) Set goes fine, then furl the jib. However after a coup

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2014-07-31 Thread Ebay via CnC-List
Shame really. Someone put some money into her. More money to go I'm afraid. John Sent from my iPad > On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" > wrote: > > Discounted already…….. > > http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfrancisco/CA/United-Sta

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2014-07-31 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
That is the C&C 43 Evening Star. For many years it was in the Seattle area and owned by a long time C&C enthusiast who restored and upgraded the boat to be one of the nicest 43’ boats around. It was also fast and well sailed every time we got 2 or 3 43’s on the starting line. A few years back

Re: Stus-List Proper Process for Head Pump Out + reducing head odors

2014-07-31 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
The pump out boat operator in Edgartown MA advised partly refilling the holding tank by pumping in fresh water via the head and then pumping out. Said this stirs up any solids lying at the bottom of the tank. Better than refilling the tank with fresh water via the deck fitting - which I had bee

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2014-07-31 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Discounted already http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfrancisco/CA/United-States From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-Li

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2014-07-31 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Looks like a fishing expedition to me. Can get newer and longer C&C at 1/2 that price. Dennis C. On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html > > > > Nice > > Expensive > > > > *Joe Della B

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2014-07-31 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html Nice Expensive Joe Della Barba Coquina ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of pa

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I think I read it as if the alternator IS charging above 13.2 it is suspect…….Doh Anyway, anything under 13.8 into a fully charged battery is quite low IF there is not a regulator that switches to float mode. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Mic

Re: Stus-List Proper Process for Head Pump Out + reducing head odors

2014-07-31 Thread dwight via CnC-List
Jake That's a lot of pumpin Dwight Veinot C&C 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jake Brodersen via CnC-List Sent: July 31, 2014 7:31 PM To: 'Raymond Macklin'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stu

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
Hi Joe,   the point of the last sentence is that if everything else is OK, that being belt tension - wiring - battery - etc, the alternator should be outputting at least 13.2 V to be useful. I think Edd mentioned that he is seeing 13.2 "tops" and use to see more. Based on that alone I would guess

Re: Stus-List Propane!

2014-07-31 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
Okay, that was funny. I guess propane is safe, but you should never wire C4 all over the boat and then set it off. Wal you wrote: When it comes to propane on board, you really need to follow all of the rules all of the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxm3uMy6MPI&feature=youtu.be Bil

Re: Stus-List Proper Process for Head Pump Out + reducing head odors

2014-07-31 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Ray, After I pump out, I partially fill the holding tank with water and pump it out again. Hopefully this will reduce the amount of material inside the tank which might lead to odors. Others may have more effective procedures. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” C&C 35 Mk-III

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
* above 13.2 V then the alternator is suspect.* This would only be true with a sophisticated 3-stage regulator that would not use bulk mode for a fixed time, but rather sense the battery was full and go right to float. A fixed set-point regulator should go right to the set-point with a full bat

Re: Stus-List Proper Process for Head Pump Out

2014-07-31 Thread Lee Youngblood via CnC-List
Hi Ray, In saltwater, it's the dying plankton that smells. It doesn't take more than a few per gallon to smell. When we leave the boat, we pump a little fresh water through to clear the pipe. As Martha says, "It's a good thing." Cheers, Lee C&C35-II In Seattle Is there is a recognized

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
Is the volt meter accurate? Wiring OK? If the alternator belt is vibrating vertically more than +/- 1/4" on a 10" span while the engine is running it is likely the belt is too loose. If after running the motor for 3 - 5 minutes if the belt is quickly uncomfortable to touch it is slipping, which

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
It never hurts to change the belt -Original Message- From: "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" Sent: ‎2014-‎07-‎31 3:15 PM To: "Josh Muckley" Cc: "C&C List" Subject: Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions? Josh, I’ll head out there this weekend (weather permitting), change the belt (it

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Josh, I’ll head out there this weekend (weather permitting), change the belt (it’s been a while) and do some tests. Since you have a 37+ too, how do you get back there to test the alternator terminals? I’m considering adding an access port in my head so I can get to the port s

Stus-List Propane!

2014-07-31 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
When it comes to propane on board, you really need to follow all of the rules all of the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxm3uMy6MPI&feature=youtu.be Bill Bina ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Edd, Do you have an internal or external voltage regulator (charge controller). Regardless the alternator is probably putting out the amount of voltage required by the regulator. Often times the voltage being supplied by the alternator is different than that being sensed by the regulator. Recen

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
If the voltage is low due to belt slippage the noise should be very evident, black dust will be everywhere, and the alternator will get VERY hot from friction on the pulley. This will actually ruin the bearings sooner or later. As for not seeing 13.7 - do you mean that low or that high? I cannot

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Edd, You should address any slippage regardless of voltage indications. Just replace the belt and adjust correctly. Slippage is never normal. As far as the voltage indications… after you have removed any slippage from the equation, a heavy load (such as charging a drained of weak battery)

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Edd, What kind of current reading do you have on each battery when charging? I've never seen 13.7 on my boat. Regards, Ron Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot C&C 37+ Bristol, RI ron.ri...@1968.usna.com From: Edd Schillay [mailto:e...@schillay.

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Gary, The key is never turned off until the engine is completely stopped. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Jul 31, 2014,

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
> Would slippage cause the voltage to drop or would that only happen > temporarily once it's going again? That's an excellent question. Hopefully another lister with recent alternator troubleshooting experience will respond. My SWAG is once the belt stops slipping the alternator's output will

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Gary, There may be some signs of slippage as I often hear some squealing during the initial startup which lasts until I change the RPMs or after 10-20 seconds. Would slippage cause the voltage to drop or would that only happen temporarily once it’s going again? All the best,

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Ed, Is the belt showing any signs of slippage? Is the inside of the belt shiny? It might be that one of your alternator diodes are gone reducing the output. You can take the alternator to an automotive alternator shop and he can test the diodes or if you have a VOM with a diode test fun

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
Edd, If the belt is slipping there should be extra dust visible and often some belt squealing especially when the regulator is calling for high output. Do you have a charge current monitor? Calypso's LINK 2000 monitor will often show a lower voltage early in the charge cycle when the current i

Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
It's the state of drainage on the dilithium crystals From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:13 PM To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions? Listers, La

Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?

2014-07-31 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Listers, Lately, when the engine running, I’m seeing the voltage reach 13.2 tops when it used to be much higher (13.7 to 14.0). Is this an alternator issue or is it the belt tightness? Any suggestions would be much appreciated. All the best, Edd Edd

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2014-07-31 Thread dwight via CnC-List
I replaced the old discharge hosing and valves with better quality products when I installed my electric marine toilet.I believe old hoses are likely responsible for any odors.my old hoses were thick walled black wire reinforced rubber. They appeared from the outside to be in good shape with no liq

Re: Stus-List Joker valve war / Head reliability

2014-07-31 Thread dwight via CnC-List
I installed an electric marine toilet on Alianna several years ago.it has not required any service yet, just flush with 50/50 ethylene glycol for winter storage. The push button flush is really simple and easy to use for everyone.we are primarily daysailers nowadays.I am not sure I would want i

Re: Stus-List Joker valve war / Head reliability

2014-07-31 Thread Tim Sippel via CnC-List
I agree with replacing the pump assembly. I “upgraded” the Jabsco head to a twist lock, rebuild kit was 69.99, complete assembly was 79.00… order a spare Joker as well Four screws a gear clamp and you’re done. No messing around with crusty gaskets and rubber. http://ca.binnacle.com/p6899/ITT-TWIS

Stus-List Proper Process for Head Pump Out

2014-07-31 Thread Raymond Macklin via CnC-List
Is there is a recognized process to pump out the head to avoid lingering odors. I have heard people will run a hose at the same time as they are pumping it out. Anything that can help would be greatly appreciated. Ray LakeHouse Libertyville, IL ___ Thi

Re: Stus-List Joker valve war / Head reliability

2014-07-31 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I've had a Jabsco for 14 years. 3-4 years ago, I put the Twist and Lock pump assembly on it. Other than the joker valve scaling up, it has worked well. FWI, regardless of brand of head, my advice to all is to consider replacing the entire pump assembly rather than rebuilding an existing one. Fo

Re: Stus-List Joker valve war / Head reliability

2014-07-31 Thread Fair, Mike via CnC-List
I replaced my whole unit with a Lavac. It uses a manual diaphragm bilge pump (gusher style) and I have had not one issue in 7 years of operations. Minimal moving parts and a favorite with live boards and bluewater cruisers. Cost was under $300. Thanks, Mike Fair Padanaram, MA From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Joker valve war / Head reliability

2014-07-31 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
My cheap Jabsco is on its second season. I did replace the joker valve this year, but it was a simple process. Otherwise, it works fine. Joel 35/3 On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I'm chasing leaks on a VacuFlush system. 4 joker val

Re: Stus-List Joker valve war / Head reliability

2014-07-31 Thread Rich Knowles via CnC-List
I'm chasing leaks on a VacuFlush system. 4 joker valves and a pump diaphragm so far. Aargh! Rich > On Jul 31, 2014, at 12:35, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List > wrote: > > Rebuilding heads seems to be a popular activity at this time of year; I > replaced all valves in my Headmate head last weekend.

Re: Stus-List Joker valve war / Head reliability

2014-07-31 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
I'm surprised at the need to rebuild two or three times per year. The head ate in my 38 has just been rebuilt for the second time in the 11 years I've owned her. This rebuild was because the piston seal was worn, and the pump would loose prime and operate slowly. When I installed the new servic

Re: Stus-List Joker valve war / Head reliability

2014-07-31 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
Rebuilding heads seems to be a popular activity at this time of year; I replaced all valves in my Headmate head last weekend. It's not a bad job, but I always remember why I bought the stubby Phillips #2 screwdriver when I do it. The previous weekend I dumped four gallons of vinegar into the syst

Re: Stus-List Joker valve war!

2014-07-31 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
I just replaced mine last night. Ridiculously easy job. Cleaned the tank out, pumped lots of fresh water through and took it apart. I only lost about a litre of water onto the head floor. I was getting tired of coming back from a sail and having to swab the head! Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg (Where

Re: Stus-List Joker valve war!

2014-07-31 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
I 'repaired' mine with Head Lube. Good stuff. Gary - Original Message - From: Dennis C. via CnC-List To: CnClist Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:23 PM Subject: Stus-List Joker valve war! I finally swapped out the joker valve in Touche's head because it was leaking back.

Re: Stus-List Stainless Grab Rails & New Stanchion

2014-07-31 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I will bet that Garhauer would do it as well. I had them custom fabricate a set of stainless steel bow chocks for my boat last winter and they were great and relatively inexpensive compared to what I thought it would cost. Dave On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:44 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > S