Re: Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race

[David Lenehan via CnC-List]

As I head to bed, the count of retirees stands at 29.  Conditions have
eased considerably with some on the handicap contenders making better time
than the leaders.

On 27 December 2015 at 18:46, David Lenehan  wrote:

> This time, as I see it, it hasn't been too bad though clearly
> uncomfortable.  Wild Oats XI lost her main in 40 knots of wind.  It's been
> much, much worse.  In the 1984 race, 104 retired out of 150 starters.  THAT
> was brutal.  We got knocked down three times.
>
> On 27 December 2015 at 16:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> 23 retirements and counting. Brutal.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015, David Lenehan via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just got an update - there are now 15 retirements.
>>>
>>> David Lenehan
>>> "Sea Mistress" - Adams 40
>>>
>>> On 27 December 2015 at 08:31, David Lenehan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Dennis,

 Having done a few of these, I can assure you that it's a wild ride most
 years.  It's just that some are far worse.  There's a lot of emphasis on
 how bad 1998 was (six sailors died) but, frankly, I think 1984 was worse.
 The really bad years come around about every seven years.  Sometimes eight,
 sometimes six but seven year cycles are the norm.  And it's no fun on the
 serious contenders.  Every second is vital for those guys and for some
 there are millions of dollars involved.  Personally, I'm pleased I gave it
 away after five races (including 1984).

 I do agree that it's quite a spectacle.  Yesterday afternoon the
 supermaxis were making 22 knots under spinnaker.  Then the southerly hit.
 At this point it appears that 10 boats (out of 108) have officially retired
 (lots of broken rudders) while a couple of others are trying to make
 repairs so they can continue.  The (line honours) leaders are currently
 beating into a southerly and are just entering Bass Strait.

 Haven't seen any video since about dusk last night.

 Hope that update helps,

 David Lenehan
 "Sea Mistress" - Adams 40

 On 27 December 2015 at 04:32, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Looks like another wild one.  Gale force winds, broken rudders, ripped
> sails, retirements from couple of the Maxis.
>
> http://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

True,  several years ago a Benetau 47 next to me almost sank out in the Lake 
due to a recent faulty bow thruster install. 


Bill Coleman 

 Original message 
From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List"  
Date: 12/27/2015  12:44 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: CnClist  
Cc: "Dennis C."  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race 

Was just reading the list of retirements.  One boat retired due to damage to 
bow thruster.  At first I gave it the old raised eyebrow thing.  On second 
thought, I suppose it could be leaking such that the boat is taking on water.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Dennis C.  wrote:
I'm impressed with "Teasing Machine", an Archambault 13.  They are kicking butt.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 5:37 AM, David Lenehan via CnC-List 
 wrote:
As I head to bed, the count of retirees stands at 29.  Conditions have eased 
considerably with some on the handicap contenders making better time than the 
leaders.

On 27 December 2015 at 18:46, David Lenehan  wrote:
This time, as I see it, it hasn't been too bad though clearly uncomfortable.  
Wild Oats XI lost her main in 40 knots of wind.  It's been much, much worse.  
In the 1984 race, 104 retired out of 150 starters.  THAT was brutal.  We got 
knocked down three times.

On 27 December 2015 at 16:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
wrote:
23 retirements and counting. Brutal. 

On Saturday, December 26, 2015, David Lenehan via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Just got an update - there are now 15 retirements.

David Lenehan
"Sea Mistress" - Adams 40

On 27 December 2015 at 08:31, David Lenehan  wrote:
Hi Dennis,

Having done a few of these, I can assure you that it's a wild ride most years.  
It's just that some are far worse.  There's a lot of emphasis on how bad 1998 
was (six sailors died) but, frankly, I think 1984 was worse.  The really bad 
years come around about every seven years.  Sometimes eight, sometimes six but 
seven year cycles are the norm.  And it's no fun on the serious contenders.  
Every second is vital for those guys and for some there are millions of dollars 
involved.  Personally, I'm pleased I gave it away after five races (including 
1984).

I do agree that it's quite a spectacle.  Yesterday afternoon the supermaxis 
were making 22 knots under spinnaker.  Then the southerly hit.  At this point 
it appears that 10 boats (out of 108) have officially retired (lots of broken 
rudders) while a couple of others are trying to make repairs so they can 
continue.  The (line honours) leaders are currently beating into a southerly 
and are just entering Bass Strait.

Haven't seen any video since about dusk last night.

Hope that update helps,

David Lenehan
"Sea Mistress" - Adams 40

On 27 December 2015 at 04:32, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:
Looks like another wild one.  Gale force winds, broken rudders, ripped sails, 
retirements from couple of the Maxis.

http://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


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Re: Stus-List Zinc decay

[phorvati . via CnC-List]

Sometimes its nothing you did.  My theory is that besides changing galvanic
properties of underwater metals, like prop, nut, shaft shark, at a worst
case  boat wiring deteriorates over time.  This could result in more stray
current.  Current not going back to negative of the bank, but instead
leaving via prop shaft and your zinc.   Obviously very small amount, but
enough over a season to notice deeper deterioration.
On Dec 24, 2015 11:48 AM, "David Knecht via CnC-List" 
wrote:
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Re: Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I'm impressed with "Teasing Machine", an Archambault 13.  They are kicking
butt.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 5:37 AM, David Lenehan via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> As I head to bed, the count of retirees stands at 29.  Conditions have
> eased considerably with some on the handicap contenders making better time
> than the leaders.
>
> On 27 December 2015 at 18:46, David Lenehan  wrote:
>
>> This time, as I see it, it hasn't been too bad though clearly
>> uncomfortable.  Wild Oats XI lost her main in 40 knots of wind.  It's been
>> much, much worse.  In the 1984 race, 104 retired out of 150 starters.  THAT
>> was brutal.  We got knocked down three times.
>>
>> On 27 December 2015 at 16:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 23 retirements and counting. Brutal.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015, David Lenehan via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Just got an update - there are now 15 retirements.

 David Lenehan
 "Sea Mistress" - Adams 40

 On 27 December 2015 at 08:31, David Lenehan 
 wrote:

> Hi Dennis,
>
> Having done a few of these, I can assure you that it's a wild ride
> most years.  It's just that some are far worse.  There's a lot of emphasis
> on how bad 1998 was (six sailors died) but, frankly, I think 1984 was
> worse.  The really bad years come around about every seven years.
> Sometimes eight, sometimes six but seven year cycles are the norm.  And
> it's no fun on the serious contenders.  Every second is vital for those
> guys and for some there are millions of dollars involved.  Personally, I'm
> pleased I gave it away after five races (including 1984).
>
> I do agree that it's quite a spectacle.  Yesterday afternoon the
> supermaxis were making 22 knots under spinnaker.  Then the southerly hit.
> At this point it appears that 10 boats (out of 108) have officially 
> retired
> (lots of broken rudders) while a couple of others are trying to make
> repairs so they can continue.  The (line honours) leaders are currently
> beating into a southerly and are just entering Bass Strait.
>
> Haven't seen any video since about dusk last night.
>
> Hope that update helps,
>
> David Lenehan
> "Sea Mistress" - Adams 40
>
> On 27 December 2015 at 04:32, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks like another wild one.  Gale force winds, broken rudders,
>> ripped sails, retirements from couple of the Maxis.
>>
>> http://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
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Re: Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

That's also on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpt7cw_f6QM

Extreme.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 27 December 2015 at 13:52, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Cool episode of TV show Situation Critical, covering rescues during the
> 1998 Sydney Hobart.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Dec 26, 2015 12:33 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> Looks like another wild one.  Gale force winds, broken rudders, ripped
>> sails, retirements from couple of the Maxis.
>>
>> http://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
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Re: Stus-List Sydney Hobart Race

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Cool episode of TV show Situation Critical, covering rescues during the
1998 Sydney Hobart.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Dec 26, 2015 12:33 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Looks like another wild one.  Gale force winds, broken rudders, ripped
> sails, retirements from couple of the Maxis.
>
> http://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Proper Blower Installation - 30 mki

[Patrick Davin via CnC-List]

Since we were talking blowers last week, I wonder why C installed marine
blowers even on boats that didn't have gas engines?

I just today removed the rusted out ignition-protected blower in the stern
of my boat, which looked original. It had been disabled a while ago by a
prior owner (had no hoses attached, and the electrical wires aren't live)
but never completely removed.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxfHpwssU_6NdlFtMXJRRTdIZzg/view?usp=sharing

West Marine has a page saying blowers are a must for gasoline, less so for
diesel but sometimes still advisable for air supply to the engine. But our
engine compartments are so huge and leaky (compared to many more modern
boat designs - like a Jeanneau with an insulated below-companionway-stairs
engine installation) that it seems quite unnecessary. Maybe that was the
thinking of the times in the 80's?

-Patrick
1984 C LF38
Seattle, WA

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:27 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Nate Flesness 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:59:18 -0600
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Proper Blower Installation - 30 mki
> My 1980 30-1 has two hoses connected to the stern vents. One hose is
> blower exhaust, the other runs forward to just aft of the engine and sits
> there - air intake. I turn the tops accordingly. Very likely this is
> original. The hose diameter fits tightly on the vent base, so 3" I.D.?
>
> Nate
> "Sarah Jean"
> Siskiwit Bay Marina
> Lake Superior
>
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Re: Stus-List Proper Blower Installation - 30 mki

[Rick Rohwer via CnC-List]

I am pretty sure vaporized diesel will blow up like gasoline vapor.  I know 
vaporized cooking fat will.  Don’t most of the fuel docks ask you to shut down 
the engine and run the fan while fueling? 

I had never thought of it as an air supply for the engine.  

Rick
Paikea 37+
Poulsbo, WA



> On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:13 PM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Since we were talking blowers last week, I wonder why C installed marine 
> blowers even on boats that didn't have gas engines?  
> 
> I just today removed the rusted out ignition-protected blower in the stern of 
> my boat, which looked original. It had been disabled a while ago by a prior 
> owner (had no hoses attached, and the electrical wires aren't live) but never 
> completely removed. 
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxfHpwssU_6NdlFtMXJRRTdIZzg/view?usp=sharing 
> 
> 
> West Marine has a page saying blowers are a must for gasoline, less so for 
> diesel but sometimes still advisable for air supply to the engine. But our 
> engine compartments are so huge and leaky (compared to many more modern boat 
> designs - like a Jeanneau with an insulated below-companionway-stairs engine 
> installation) that it seems quite unnecessary. Maybe that was the thinking of 
> the times in the 80's? 
> 
> -Patrick
> 1984 C LF38
> Seattle, WA
> 
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:27 AM,  > wrote:
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Nate Flesness >
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com " 
> >
> Cc: 
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:59:18 -0600
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Proper Blower Installation - 30 mki
> My 1980 30-1 has two hoses connected to the stern vents. One hose is blower 
> exhaust, the other runs forward to just aft of the engine and sits there - 
> air intake. I turn the tops accordingly. Very likely this is original. The 
> hose diameter fits tightly on the vent base, so 3" I.D.?  
> 
> Nate
> "Sarah Jean"
> Siskiwit Bay Marina
> Lake Superior
> 
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