Re: Stus-List This is very cool...
I did! Windty is the website
David F. Risch.
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Dave, did you mean to send this link?I hesitate these day since some friends
have been hacked and strange emails get sent out from them.RonWild Cheri
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Re: Stus-List This is very cool...
Donkeyporn.com rocks! David F. Risch. Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:06/11/2015 12:12 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivCc: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List This is very cool... /divdiv /div It is a cool link. And it’s refreshing to see David using the internet for something other than porn. Rumor has it he’s the original Captain Stabbin’. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Jun 11, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Dave, did you mean to send this link? I hesitate these day since some friends have been hacked and strange emails get sent out from them. Ron Wild Cheri From: David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC CNC cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David davidrisc...@msn.com mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:55 AM Subject: Stus-List This is very cool... Thought I would share this... https://www.windyty.com/?43.580,-73.125,4 https://www.windyty.com/?43.580,-73.125,4 David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Teak oil suggestions?
Done with sanding and varnish. What say you? David F. Risch. Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 37plus Draft
DJ, Corsair draws 7'6 and we are located in Marion, MA. Never had a problem. There are a couple of harbors we cannot get into, but the tradeoff of her being a freight train upwqinf more than makes up for it. David F. Risch. 1981 40 Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: D.J. Platt via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:03/29/2015 10:44 AM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List CC 37plus Draft /divdiv /div Don't know about Cape Cod but way to deep for the ICW. Cheers david Wanderer CC 32 From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:44 AM To: paradigmat...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List CC 37plus Draft Hi Guys, I've got a 37plus on my radar but the draft is 7'-3 I think that may be a bit too deep, I don't think I'd be able to stay where I kept the Viking and I do like that location. I also think it may limit some harbors out on the the islands in and around buzzard's bay... Would anyone have any comments about the deep draft and it limitations around Cape Cod, south coast and the islands? Danny Boat Shopper South Coast Massachusetts ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Raymarine wind mast unit. ..
Need a mast wand for an ST 60. Anybody have one for sale? David F. Risch. 1981 40 Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)
Tom, Do you have height in your battery compartment?I do and installed 2 400 amp sweeper batterys. Same or smaller, footprint, inexpensive and robust. David F. Risch. 1981 40 Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:03/27/2015 2:39 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Tom Buscaglia t...@sv-alera.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay) /divdiv /div Tom, I have 6 agm's on their side under the floor boards of my 44. It might work for your 40. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury Portland Or On Mar 27, 2015 10:18 AM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Edd What 6v batteries are you planning on using, with will be the total AH, and where will you house them. I'll be damned if I can find enough space to add two more batteries on Alera, Enterprise's sistership. thx Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com t 08:15 AM 3/27/2015, you wrote: On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:30, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the Enterprise. Here is link to my draft setup: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any respectful wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers input or just to say ?Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our CC List, you amateur hack.? Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my CC. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Pole for 33 MK II
If it were me...and assuming you have the pole ends...you might try sourcing carbon fibre tubing.so much easier to handle than the old tech. I still lug around the old tech and lust for a CF pole David F. Risch. 1981 40 Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: Eric Baumes via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:03/06/2015 3:54 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Tom Lynch thomasmly...@gmail.com, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Pole for 33 MK II /divdiv /div Try the local boat yards--especially if they service sailboats. The sometimes have odd bits sitting around. As for ebay, unless it is local, the shipping will be freight which is not cheap. Eric CC 34/36 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Tom Lynch via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I acquired a 1985 CC 33 MKII mid last summer. I need to replace the spinnaker pole. Does anyone have any suggestions on where I can find a used spinnaker pole or a good price on a new one? I've checked ebay and found a few items but not much. Thanks Tom *Escape* (to be renamed) 1985 CC 33 II Bayfield WI. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Cunningham / reefing?
Poor or not...I run aline from mast collar thru cringle then to 4 to 1 purchase. Works like a charm. David F. Risch. Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: Lee Youngblood via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:01/27/2015 5:52 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Brent Driedger bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Cunningham / reefing? /divdiv /div Good sailmakers will suggest a dogbone, a strip of wbbing with an O-ring on each end through the reef grommet or ring. They might sew one side for you and have you hand stitch the other ring on. It's MUCH easier to get that ring on your hook. Or you can use a cunningham with a hook like this, http://www.atlanticriggingsupply.com/wi2snho.html to pull it down with. Course we are so poor, I just take a scrap line down under the gooseneck and around the front of the mast an quickly tie it down and raise the halyard. What ever works. . . I use my Cunningham when I reef to reduce pressure on the double hook thing above the gooseneck. That being said, I don't think my double hook thing (tack hook) has ever been properly installed since I've owned the boat. It's a stainless rod that becomes the hinge pin of the gooseneck and has a very small hole through it at the bottom where I place a small washer and split pin to hold it in place. Without the Cunningham in place the upward tension on the luff of the main places a lot of load on this little pin and I have had one break while reefed after forgetting the Cunningham. This resulted in gooseneck separation which killed my race as fitting it all back together in 25 knots with a boom kicker is nearly impossible without taking everything apart. What is the proper configuration of this little double hook thing (tack hook)? Is there something better than a split pin for this? Brent D 27-5 Lake Winnipeg. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: FWIW, I agree with Antoine's description of using the Cunningham and Flattening Reef. These tweaks are used similarly on all mainsails, from dinghies to bigger keel boats. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md From: Antoine Rose via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com To: David Paine mailto:paineda...@gmail.compaineda...@gmail.com, mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 11:44:33 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Cunningham Hi David, To answer your question, we need to go back a bit to the origin the cunningham. Well, the main sail is up and properly tensioned, which mean that the halyard point is close to the mast top block to use the full length of your mast. Wind is light, not too much tension is needed on the halyard. As wind increases, more is needed. Eventually, the halyard is fully tensioned but the wind still get a bit stronger, but not enough to reef and, since you're racing you don't want to give any water to that boat just beside yours. As the wind increases, the sail draft moves back, increasing heeling and reducing speed. Tensioning the cunningham does just that, bringing the draft forward for two reasons: it increases the tensioning but also, because the cunningham grommet is slightly aft of the sail, pull forward the main foot. Having the grommet has another advantage. If you have a corresponding grommet on the leach side, you can take a six inch reef (sorry, don't how it's called in English, ris de fond in French). This very small reef does not reduce substantially the size of the sail but removes much of the draft. A flatter main points higher and reduce heeling. Antoine (CC 30 Cousin) Le 2015-01-25 à 18:32, David Paine via CnC-List a écrit : Hi All, I'm buying a new mainsail and I am going to ask a ridiculous-sounding question. Do you have a Cunningham grommet in your mainsail? I do not in my current sail but that is because Hood made the sail with a jack line (or lace line) which serves the purpose. My new sail definitely won't have a jack-line. Some adjust luff tension with the halyard, others use a separate Cunningham grommet with a many part tackle (or lead the Cunningham line to a winch) to set the luff tension. My sailmaker has an opinion but my question is, which do you use? The Cunningham is useless when reefed, of course. Cheers, David ___ Email address: mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.comhttp://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including
Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's?
Have sweeper batteries. Bigger than golf cart batteries and work great. David F. Risch. Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:12/14/2014 10:00 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's? /divdiv /div Actually, I’ve only got the T105 Trojans; the 20-hour discharge capacity is 225 amp-hours. Still quite a lot for their size. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote: For example, Fred’s Trojan GC2 batteries can be up to almost 300 amp-hour capacity. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Annapolis/South River sail Saturday
Since I'm not paying for it... Goslings Old Rum. David F. Risch. Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:12/12/2014 7:32 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net, 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis/South River sail Saturday /divdiv /div Rum. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 12 December 2014 at 14:56, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Joel, What a great offer. 46 degree weather, but I'd love to join you for a sailing fix. I'll let you know later tonight. I'll bring some snacks and my homemade chilli as a warmup. I guess Kahlua or Bailey's would be better in coffee or cocoa than cold beer? Maybe the cold weather sailors would suggest the best libations for cold weather sailing? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:02:57 AM *Subject: *Stus-List Annapolis/South River sail Saturday All, The Office is still in the water and rigged. I'm going out Saturday, likely from 11 or noon to 3 or 4. If anyone needs a sailing fix, let me know. Forecast is for NW, 12, gusting to 20. On South River that means a broad reach out to the Bay and then either tacking or motoring back in. Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Cabin Sole replacement
Agreed. But my experience of boat yard bills is that are at least 2x the estimate. Sucks. But it is.my reality. I I abide by it and it keeps my out of trouble. David F. Risch. Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: Michael Brown via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:12/12/2014 8:13 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Cabin Sole replacement /divdiv /div From a procedural point of view I believe the contractor has an inescapable responsibility to inform a client of deliverables, costs and risks in a plainly worded contract. Unless you have given clear carte blanc ro proceed with the job the contractor has a further responsibility to advise you of issues that would prevent the contract to be completed as awarded. Good advise from Bill Walker. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:55:34 -0500 From: =?utf-8?B?d3dhZGpvdXJuQGFvbC5jb20=?= wwadjo...@aol.com To: =?utf-8?B?RGFuIFV0aW5za2UgdmlhIENuQy1MaXN0?= cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Cabin Sole replacement Message-ID: mailman.615.1418425221.16668.cnc-list_cnc-list@cnc-list.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I replaced my cabin sole on my 36 with European grade teak and holly plywood last winter. Did work myself. Used old for patterns, did work 425 miles from boat and all fit like a glove. Paid about 280 a sheet for ply, pick up at distributor. Needed two sheets. Applied epoxy to bottom and sides of all. 9 coats varnish, sand between every other coat. I estimate 10-!5 hours fabrication, 10-15 hours varnish. Two quarts varnish. The 36 has a lot of floor compared even to a 34. Five separate pieces. This is a ridiculous amount that they want. I wouldn't pay a penny over the yard estimate without really good reason. Call your lawyer. Bill Walker Retired Judge and Lawyer Evening Star CnC 36 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Quality Construction
Friends boats; 1) BendyToe 423...multiple successful trips to Bermuda. 2) Bendy Toe 373. Broke a boom going round the bouys. I think construction quality is model dependent David F. Risch. Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: John Pennie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:12/10/2014 12:37 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Quality Construction /divdiv /div On the 121, etc - The fiberglass build quality, sans some initial problems on the epoxy hulls, is first rate. Hardware is first rate. Design is excellent. Woodwork does not compare to the original CC. They sail like a bat out of hell. Not sure where the comment about 15 knots and above comes from. My 121 loves light air. John Sent from my iPad On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: yea, this is exactly what I am up against. we sold Lolita and the admiral would like a jeanneau. I can't bring myself to accommodate her. The more I learned about the Jeanneau the more I realized I don't think I would not be happy with the construction/build quality. We looked at a privately owed trade in. A 2006 Jeanneau 40 and many cabinet knobs were missing, some hatch shades were pulled right out of the headliner where they were wood screwed in. There was a locker in between 2 port side seats down below where the hing was ripped right out. Most of the joinery was just screwed together with wood screws. It appeared like it was done more by a homeowner as a weekend project than by a highly skilled craftsman... I just couldn't imagine that type of failure, so obvious, on a privately owned, 8 year old boat and feel comfortable with the rest of the construction. I do think older jeanneaus were better built before Bene got hold of them. (bene was better built vessel years ago as well) Then you look at the hardware, I had more substantial winches on our 33 Viking. My wife absolutely LOVES the layout of these things. They are voluminous, bright, they sit very high and have lots of port lights. These are all very nice for hanging at the dock but I I can't help but think how these attributes would effect safety and comfort if we got caught in a blow with some decent sized waves. How do you brace yourself? I can just imagine the shuttering all those face screwed panels would do pounding into a good sea. All this is based on gut reaction to what I have seen. which is really just boat show boarding and a couple of showings as well as some reading up on construction techniques. So we end up in a dilemma, Make the admiral happy and me uncomfortable about the boat or, make me happy and the admirals feels she is in a tight, dark wooden box. There really does not seem to be any middle ground in our price range... How do you guys feel about the tartan built CC 121 or 115. I've read they really like 15knot winds and above. I do think this is the one exception if the CC quality is there. They do have a nice bright interior and I think that would make the admiral happy. I really don't have a great deal of knowledge of them. They never really showed up at boat shows and there aren't too many available on the market. They may also be a bit out of our price range. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Quality Construction Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:10:46 -0400 At the club last week and noticed a fellow member tolling away on the work bench behind our spar shed...there is a big vice on it that makes it convenient to do some jobs. I walked over to say hello and discovered he was cutting out 'backing plates'.asked him where he was installing them. He said his deck cleats on the bow of his recently purchased Beneteau 49 (30,000 lbs.) did not have backing platesand he keeps his boat on a mooring. And he sold a CC 41 for a Bene 49.he said he is beginning to discover the difference in the overall quality of construction between the two boats. Thought I would pass that little piece of information along to anyone thinking of buying a quality built Bene! Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:
Re: Stus-List Masthead sheaves replacement
Ok. So I may have had a brain cramp around this issue. I never thought I needed to replace the sheeves after going all rope halyard as I thought the line would ride above the sheeves wire recess. As my main is a pia to hoist maybe it is digging into the recess when hoisting the main and causing excess drag? David F. Risch. Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: Rod Randow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:12/05/2014 2:08 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Masthead sheaves replacement /divdiv /div Burt, I beilieve I need to replace* a jib masthead halyard sheave on my 33-1 since one halyard raises the 135 easily by hand while the other halyard requires a hard grinding via a winch to reach full hoist. My boat is on the hard with the mast stepped. So if you are visiting your boat, I would like to see photos of the jib sheaves and if possible the dimensions of the sheaves (diameter, width, and pin diameter). Knowing the sheave size would enable me to have a replacement(s) ready if and when I drop or climb the mast. * The problem sheave is the one I've used for the furler for many years and the bronze/brass bushing is probably worn and no longer round. Rod Randow CC 33-1 _ bstratton wrote I have a '74 33 3/4tonner. I believe our rigs are very similar if not identical. I just had my mast un-stepped in order to haul the boat to my property for some winter projects. The mast is stored at my marina. If you like I can take some close up pics for you. I should be heading down to the yard this weekend. I have no experience in replacing the masthead sheaves but you might be able to get a good idea of what is involved if you decide to go that route. My main can be difficult to raise also but I chalked that up to my lack of experience and extra hands. I found that feeding it into the track is a huge help but again, extra hands would be helpful. I also learned the hard way to move my running backs out of the way. Burt 1974 33 3/4 tonner Not named yet On the hard Walpole, MA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Overpriced?
Geez...I'd be really happy to get that for my 40! Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:10/25/2014 1:08 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Stus-List Overpriced? /divdiv /div While I think this appears to be a nicely equipped and well maintained boat, I think the owner is overly optimistic with his asking price. We bought our boat in 2006 for half that price and it was a well maintained, fresh water, one owner boat. Sure would like to hear any and all comments on this! http://www.bowlineyachts.ca/sailboats/1984candclegacy.html Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Redline 41
Barry said all up its over 500k... Ugh. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:10/11/2014 12:58 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Roger Ware w...@qed.econ.queensu.ca, CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Redline 41 /divdiv /div My recollection is that all of the CCs of that length have historically been priced at ~$400k. It definitely takes a discerning customer with deep pockets to justify a new one. Look at the 40' J boat too. Very slim market for any $400k boat, racer or cruiser. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 11, 2014 12:32 PM, Roger Ware via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Joel, You forgot to mention the bad- the 41 is a very expensive boat $400K. Hard to see how it will compete well with the slightly lower quality but much lower priced Beneteaus and Hanses. Roger Ware, Kingston, ON *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson via CnC-List *Sent:* October-11-14 12:00 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Redline 41 spent a few minutes on the new 41 at the boat show The good- large cockpit, boat appears solid. The bad- winch placement, cabin steps are too far apart, cabin feels very small, aft quarterberths are open with no door for privacy while cruising, door to head is in forward cabin. Better racer than cruiser Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Bermuda Bound Bubble Runner
I have a feeling he will have another wack at it. Just a hunch... Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:10/08/2014 2:37 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Jake Brodersen captain_j...@cox.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Bermuda Bound Bubble Runner /divdiv /div He just missed getting a darwin award. Maybe an honorable mention since he tried. Ron Wild Cheri STL On Tue, 10/7/14, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Bermuda Bound Bubble Runner To: 'Wally Bryant' w...@wbryant.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2014, 5:05 AM Wally, It was a guy in a giant hamster wheel trying to run to Bermuda. He couldn't get through the Gulf Stream. He wasn't as tough as he thought he was. http://abcnews.go.com/US/coast-guard-rescues-man-inflatable-bubble/story?id= 25974177 Jake Jake Brodersen Midnight Mistress CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:36 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Bermuda Bound Bubble Runner I think my spam filters killed the original message. What's the link? It sounds funny. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster
Had Navtech local shop rebuild for 500 twice withim 12 months. Never again. Went to truck hydraulic shop for 80 bucks Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Ron Casciato via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:10/08/2014 7:18 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: 'Martin DeYoung' mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster /divdiv /div Another vote for Sailtec from me...replaced my 1977'vintage Navtec 2 years ago...repaired the Navtec 3 times at about $600 each. Barely paid more than that for the new Sailtec and it has worked nicely. Split backstay rigs work nicely on smaller boats with flexible maststhink S27.9 e.g. but for the Standard CC telephone pole mast...you'll need more oomph. Ron C. Impromptu CC 38MKIIC'77 _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:51 PM To: Bill Coleman; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster I also recommend Sailtec. Calypso has had Sailtec backstay and baby stay hydraulic cylinders for over 20 years. I recently had new seals put in the backstay by the local (Seattle area) guy recommended by Sailtec. It cost $400 and should keep the backstay adjuster in business for the next 10 years. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 2:28 PM To: 'Bruno Lachance'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster My 39 had a Sailtec installed by the PO. No problems from when he bought it in early 90's till now. I like it. http://www.sailtec.com/products/hydraulic-integral-adjusters.html I think the Harken is nice too, supposedly it pumps both ways. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Regards, Bill From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Lachance via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:15 PM To: Joel Aronson; Kevin Driscoll; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster The 33 is not split backstay, maybe some late models have them but not mine. I can not beleive there is not a better reliable system on the market. anybody with direct experience of the Wichard mechanical wiht ratchet ? i don't even know if the handle pumps up and down or rotates with some sort of relief system hence the ratchet ??? same question about power, but the numbers indicate it would be more than appropriate for my boat. I'm worried to dump more money into hydrolic and be a the same point in a year or two. Worse case scenario i lost the rig, i had to jury something this summer offshore in 25 knots plus when the thing blew on my transom. not fun at all. i bought a spare turnbucle after that one and went on with my vacations. thanks for inputs Bruno Lachance CC 33 mkII Becassine ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster
Part two. Never been better. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: davidrisch75 via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:10/08/2014 7:37 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Ron Casciato rjcasci...@comcast.net, 'Martin DeYoung' mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster /divdiv /div Had Navtech local shop rebuild for 500 twice withim 12 months. Never again. Went to truck hydraulic shop for 80 bucks Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Ron Casciato via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:10/08/2014 7:18 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: 'Martin DeYoung' mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster /divdiv /div Another vote for Sailtec from me...replaced my 1977'vintage Navtec 2 years ago...repaired the Navtec 3 times at about $600 each. Barely paid more than that for the new Sailtec and it has worked nicely. Split backstay rigs work nicely on smaller boats with flexible maststhink S27.9 e.g. but for the Standard CC telephone pole mast...you'll need more oomph. Ron C. Impromptu CC 38MKIIC'77 _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:51 PM To: Bill Coleman; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster I also recommend Sailtec. Calypso has had Sailtec backstay and baby stay hydraulic cylinders for over 20 years. I recently had new seals put in the backstay by the local (Seattle area) guy recommended by Sailtec. It cost $400 and should keep the backstay adjuster in business for the next 10 years. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 2:28 PM To: 'Bruno Lachance'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster My 39 had a Sailtec installed by the PO. No problems from when he bought it in early 90's till now. I like it. http://www.sailtec.com/products/hydraulic-integral-adjusters.html I think the Harken is nice too, supposedly it pumps both ways. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Regards, Bill From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Lachance via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:15 PM To: Joel Aronson; Kevin Driscoll; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster The 33 is not split backstay, maybe some late models have them but not mine. I can not beleive there is not a better reliable system on the market. anybody with direct experience of the Wichard mechanical wiht ratchet ? i don't even know if the handle pumps up and down or rotates with some sort of relief system hence the ratchet ??? same question about power, but the numbers indicate it would be more than appropriate for my boat. I'm worried to dump more money into hydrolic and be a the same point in a year or two. Worse case scenario i lost the rig, i had to jury something this summer offshore in 25 knots plus when the thing blew on my transom. not fun at all. i bought a spare turnbucle after that one and went on with my vacations. thanks for inputs Bruno Lachance CC 33 mkII Becassine ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Shannon 38
I owned a full keeled easily tracked boat. Thing couldnt sail or motor out of its own way otherwise. ..designed by the grandson of the Godfather of designers too. Give me a well designed fin/spade combination like my C C 40-2 any day offshore. She has proven herself time and time again as easily balanced and the therefore easily tracked in ocean gales. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphonediv Original message /divdivFrom: Jerome Tauber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:08/13/2014 6:14 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Shannon 38 /divdiv /div Bruce Tait is nearby in Sag Harbor. Boat is located on Shelter Island a short sail away. My friend had a 1978 Shannon 28. Based on the year this is probably a very early hull for the 38. Shannon's are high quality offshore boats designed for distance cruising. They are relatively slow and don't point well but are designed to sail in heavy weather. The boat is a modified full keel. It will be more sea kindly and track better than a CC and is more comparable to a landfall. They go for high prices and were substantially more expensive than a CC. Jerry 27 V JJ. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi, Bob — the Shannons are pretty boats, for the most part well-built. From the photos, this one looks like there’s been some water damage to interior woodwork; and the electrical system and much of the electronics are very dated. And they’re not going to sail anything like a CC. Pretty high price for a 70’s boat. I imagine it’ll sell for less... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:23 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I've been an 8-9 year consumer of Stu's List wisdom - mostly contributing questions and an occasional opinion. I'm curious what people think of the Shannon 38, referenced below, as a retirement boat for bumping up and down the US East Coast. I realize it's not a CC but the opinions of many on the list are held in high regard. The dismasting and repair are of special interest. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1978/Shannon-staysail-Cutter-2644578/Shelter-Island/NY/United-States#.U-qVSONdWSo Cheers, Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions?
Edd, I change belt and impellers every two years. Has kept me out of trouble. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:08/03/2014 2:33 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions? /divdiv /div All, I'm happy to report that it was the belt. My wife and I changed it today, started up the engine, heard no whistling and saw a healthy 14.4 volts coming through. Lesson learned. Change your belts on a regular basis. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.332.1671 | Fax 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 5 On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: * above 13.2 V then the alternator is suspect.* This would only be true with a sophisticated 3-stage regulator that would not use bulk mode for a fixed time, but rather sense the battery was full and go right to float. A fixed set-point regulator should go right to the set-point with a full battery and a timer-controlled 3 stage regulator would still be in bulk/absorption mode for a given time. Most fixed regulators would be someplace between 13.8 and 14.7 volts. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Brown via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:03 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions? Is the volt meter accurate? Wiring OK? If the alternator belt is vibrating vertically more than +/- 1/4 on a 10 span while the engine is running it is likely the belt is too loose. If after running the motor for 3 - 5 minutes if the belt is quickly uncomfortable to touch it is slipping, which may be it is loose or has become glazed. If the belt is not the problem, charge up the battery(s), disconnect the charger and let them rest maybe 30 minutes. Measure the voltage as close to the battery terminals as is convenient with no load from the boat. Add a small load, 1 - 2 amps, like a bulb style nav lights for an hour. Check the voltage again. Start the motor, wait about 1 minute and check the voltage. A common open circuit voltage for a charged flooded lead acid battery is 12.6 V. After 1 hour of 1 - 2 amp load the voltage should still be above 12.4 V. If after 1 minute of running the motor the voltage needs to be at least 13.2 volts, which is considered to be a final float voltage. This is assuming a regular flooded lead acid deep cycle battery. If the after being connected to the dock side charger the battery is not coming up to 12.6 V the charger may be defective or the battery is not fully charging. A battery may fail in a mode where after a rest from charging the voltage is under 12 volts, and it loads the charging system without going over 13 V. If the battery charges to 12.6 ( all these voltages are approximate, could be +/- 0.1 volt ), and after a 1 - 2 amp/hr discharge is still at 12.5 volts but the alternator is not charging above 13.2 V then the alternator is suspect. Hard to guess what may be wrong with it. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:12:59 -0400 From: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Alternator? Belt? Suggestions? Message-ID: 216c6d78-b3d7-4c7a-912b-c377d5020...@schillay.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Listers, Lately, when the engine running, I?m seeing the voltage reach 13.2 tops when it used to be much higher (13.7 to 14.0). Is this an alternator issue or is it the belt tightness? Any suggestions would be much appreciated. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate
Yea they explode. Boy do they explode. 8k of carbon fibre explode. 2 seasons and a lifetime of lessons. Never again 1981 40-2. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:07/29/2014 9:38 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: CnC cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate /divdiv /div Here: http://www.dimension-polyant.com/en/Laminate_Cruising_2_3_1.php It's high tech / lightweight s*#t, so it's going to be much lighter than Dacron. I bought a full laminate genoa last season - it's half the Weight (...or less) of my old Dacron 135%. Cruising laminate is going to be somewhere in between. So with a bit of research you can determine if it's going to hold up. A word of warning - don't know about cruising laminate, but regular high tech sails don't slowly blow out over time like Dacron - they suddenly explode! sam :-) Original Message From: John Pennie via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:15 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: John Pennie Subject: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate Hello all I was taking my summer hiatus from the list but something has come up… For financial reasons I had delayed new sails this winter. Just too many other projects going on. Browsing Bacon’s listings I came across a jib (130%) which is virtually new. Dimensions are near perfect, luff tape is the correct size, suncover is on the correct side and even the right color. I know Bacon well and have no concerns there. Here’s the rub… The sail is listed as a “cruise laminate” by Quantum. Again I have no concerns with either of those pieces of information. Would love to know what the the laminate is but that information is not available. Assume some blend of polyester, mylar and something for strength. My concern is that cloth weight is listed as 4.75 ounce. This for a 40’ boat with a tall rig. Even by Long Island Sound standards that seems terribly light. Price is now down to just over 1/3 the price of a new sail. Any thoughts? John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus-Maine Cruise
As a kid I learned, and still adhere to the rule that when sheets are cracked and racing never cleat sheets. And when in doubt let it out...I find 80% of folks overtrim. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:07/27/2014 5:28 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Stus-Maine Cruise /divdiv /div Andy, will you be sending a blog or other info about your cruise? (the answer should be yes) thanks! Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River Mile 584 RBD; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cenelson cenel...@aol.com; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sun, Jul 27, 2014 4:44 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List tight reaching Certainly move the lead all the way outboard if you can still trim the sail with it there. You'll open up the slot and the boat will stand up better. I think I'd be inclined to err on the side of too much sail on a reach in order to power through the lulls. Ease the back stay a bit, which also opens the slot, and ease the jib halyard to keep the draft far enough aft when the headstay is slack. Maybe a little less vang on the main to match the twist in the genoa and keep the telltales flying. Then have your crew hike hard and trim the sails constantly while you drive arrow-straight. Andy Peregrine CC 40 (currently Portland Maine beginning a cruise) Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jul 27, 2014, at 16:31, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: One idea not mentioned yet, perhaps because it is too obvious, is constant headsail adjustment, assuming the main is set properly. When I am not close-hauled (upwind or reaching), I steer a course angle or position on the horizon and have the head sail trimmer CONSTANTLY adjusting the headsail for good shape in the puffs and lulls, tell tales streaming, etc. using the boat speed as a measure of his success. The headsail trimmer is really driving the boat with adjustments for the puffs and lulls while the helmsman keeps the boat going in a fixed direction. In 10-15 we would have our 'heavy #1' carbon up, board fully down and be shooting for our hull speed of ~ 7+ knots. Close reaching is definitely not a set it and forget it racing mode. For long races, we have to switch the trimmer because the concentration and winch trimming involved can be exhausting. FWIW Charlie Nelson 1995 CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sun, Jul 27, 2014 1:02 pm Subject: Stus-List tight reaching I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was tight reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze. We had our heavy #1 up. A number of boats (CC39, CC38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty well in those conditions. I obviously need to trim the sails differently and am looking for suggestions. We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber hauling. We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail. Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. Thanks, Pete 1984 CC 37 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 40 rudder bearing replacement
I replaced mine on my 40. Call cell at 401 419 4650 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date:06/22/2014 10:57 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List CC 40 rudder bearing replacement This is from my friend who's cruising the Caribbean on his 40: Hi Andy, I may have tracked down drawings for the rudder install, but would like to see if there is anyone out there who might have done a bearing replacement. My internet is poor and I can’t get into any of the forums on CCphoto. Can you post a question there about CC 40 bearing replacement? And see if anything comes back? Appreciate it. Cheers, Skip Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race
Dwight...I believe Andy was being facetious. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: dwight via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date:05/30/2014 8:54 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Andrew Burton' a.burton.sai...@gmail.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race Yes, everyone who knows anything about sailboat racing would make that recommendation to anyone but it is much easier to make the recommendation than to put the recommendation into practice.sort of like saying just stay in front all the way but it's winning the start and staying in front that's hard to do sometimes.I do agree with the general statement that says you can't win by following so if you are not fortunate enough to win the strat and get to the first shift first and regocnize that there is indeed a real shift and how to use that shift to your advantage then you might be forced to try something different or else be satisfied to follow and consequently place second or lower.soemtimes it hard to make that bold decision to tack away and look for better fortune _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: May 30, 2014 5:40 PM To: Martin DeYoung; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race Win the start, get to the first shift ahead and tack on it. Extend your lead. I guarantee that if you follow this advice, you'll win. Good Luck! Andy On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Should make the starting line interesting. Don't start to leeward of the 100' schooner nor to windward of the mini. Best of luck on your race! Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:46 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race All, One week to the gun! I want to thank all of you in advance for your support, advice, patience, equipment and even sails that have made it possible for me to enter the race. There will be fellow CC ers on the boat both ways! Our class includes Steve Sharkey's CC 37 as well as a mini transat 21 footer and a 100 foot schooner. Should make the starting line interesting. You can track us at www.bermudaoceanrace.com. They are using Spots, not Yellowbrick. Finally, as a follow up to an earlier post, I ran out of time to make a fancy enclosure for the frig compressor. Some corrugated plastic board from Home Depot and duct tape will suffice for now. If nothing else, it will serve as a template for a more permanent solution. -- Joel The Office Annapolis 301 541 tel:301%20541%208551 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
