Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Doesn't the engine anti-freeze contain rust inhibitors and the rv stuff doesn't? Mike PERSUASION C 37 K/CB Long Sault > On Oct 14, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > wrote: > > ??? > I think you are trying to find engine antifreeze. I have never tried

Re: Stus-List PayPal update

2016-10-14 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
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2016-10-14 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
The plumbing antifreeze sold here is denatured ethyl alcohol (ethanol), which is not great for rubber parts, but not as bad as methanol. As I noted in my last post, there is sometimes available a "premium" version plumbing antifreeze, which does contain at least some propylene glycol, but it

Re: Stus-List PayPal update

2016-10-14 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
Guys, from time to time send out an email with this link. it will remind us all to send something. thanks for setting this up. Bill Walker Evening Star CnC 36 Pentwater, Mi Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Friday, October 14, 2016 Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
Yes. Environmental considerations aside, engine antifreeze is better for both the raw water cooling system and the head, but not suitable for potable water systems. Steve Thomas C MKIII Port Stanley, ON Persuasion37 via CnC-List wrote: Doesn't the engine

Re: Stus-List Sailing from San Francisco to San Diego

2016-10-14 Thread Ian Matthew via CnC-List
The only problem with sailing that late in the winter season is that it's the beginning of the winter storms. The Pineapple Express gives you strong winds out of the Southwest. The best time for the trip is late September / October. So take a very good look at the weather forecast and plan

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
Home Hardware sells pure propylene glycol. Search for Cryo-Tek concentrated antifreeze. 18.9 liters ( 5 US gallons ) is $135. It may be that glycerin based antifreeze is the best choice for winterizing an engine block though other than in sprinkler systems it has not caught on. Michael Brown

Re: Stus-List Contributing to Stu's costs

2016-10-14 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
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Stus-List Contributing to Stu's costs

2016-10-14 Thread Stu via CnC-List
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Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations

2016-10-14 Thread Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
Dave Maybe we should combine our orders, I'll be looking for a new main this winter for our '85 33-2. Have dealt with Spike here at Doyle Boston, and am happy with what we got. He's "very" local and an active part of our race program here in Sarnia. Brad "Pulse" 1985 C 33-2 Lake Huron

Re: Stus-List WInterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread David Platt via CnC-List
Tim I am curious about why you advocate taking the impeller out. Won't antifreeze drain out of your engine when you take the cover off the water pump? Respectfully david C 32 Wanderer On 2016-10-13 12:07 PM, Tim Sippel via CnC-List wrote: In Water : Change oil Check Coolant / change

Re: Stus-List PayPal update

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Stus-List PayPal update

2016-10-14 Thread Stu via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread John Sandford via CnC-List
Agree. Winterizing is simple really. 1. Buy a big jug of plumbers antifreeze. Pink stuff. Local Hardware store. Don’t need to buy “Marine$$” grade. 2. Disconnect the sea suction hose at the through hull and stick the hose in the jug. 3. Remove the engine air inlet filter

Stus-List paypal

2016-10-14 Thread Howard and Skippy via CnC-List
I want to send $ to Stu using paypal. Do I use the cnc-list@cnc-list.com as the email for payment? Howard Paul ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by

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2016-10-14 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
?? Propylene glycol is very easy to get around here. I would think it would be a very easy thing to find in Canada too. You all do have RVs and vacation houses up there, right??? Joe Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
There is a school of thought that maintains that the impeller might deteriorate in the antifreeze, especially, since most of the AF is Ethylene Glycol. IIRC, the better one would be Propylene Glycol, but it is not easily available. Btw. if AF drains, it is only better (you don’t have to worry

Re: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations

2016-10-14 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Interestingly, I have asked only for a replacement mainsail, and two lofts (both have a sense of my intended use, and know the dimensions) are going to quote, without having asked me any further questions. I am working my way through the Sailpower blog as recommended here by Kevin Driscoll.

Re: Stus-List PayPal update

2016-10-14 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Actually, it is a much simpler link: www.paypal.me/stumurray . probably, one could even remember it. Marek From: Stu via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 10:33 To: C Email List Cc: Stu Subject: Stus-List PayPal update Colin & others -- no I am not able

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
??? I think you are trying to find engine antifreeze. I have never tried that, I always have used the pink propylene glycol sold all over the place to winterize water systems in boats, vacation cottages, and RVs. It has no ethylene glycol in it, you can drink it. I use the same stuff for the

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
Other reason I've heard for removing impeller is to avoid it taking a 'set' from sitting in the same position all winter. Somewhere, sometime I read that you should do this if leaving the boat for longer than 2 weeks! It's pretty rare that we are not on our boat at least every two weeks even in

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Joe, I think you are right. And I read the same about how poisonous the two are. I am using the pink stuff for winterisation and cross my fingers that the rubber parts don’t mind it. The two primary concerns are the impeller in the water pump and the joker valve in the head. The worst scenario

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I have had my boat since 1977. If pink antifreeze was harmful to rubber parts I would have bought a TON of impellers and joker valves by now! Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:01 PM To:

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
You might think that, but it is not. Recochem used to make a propylene glycol engine antifreeze here that was widely sold under various brand names, notably Prestolite, but they don't anymore. It came as a something of a shock when it was no longer available. Some automotive speed shops have a

Re: Stus-List Winterizing 2GM20F

2016-10-14 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
I was led to believe the reason for removing the impeller was to not have it in a single position for a number of months – it could take a set and not work correctly. I did that religiously for a few years and then stopped bothering after seeing no ‘set’. I change it every couple of years