Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Try Citri-Strip adhesive remover.  I used it to remove sail number goo.

Joel

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> Thanks for the recommendation - and for what does not work. I see they
> have Good Off at Lowe's. I will try this in the Spring.
>
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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Damian Greene via CnC-List]

Thanks for the recommendation - and for what does not work. I see they have Good Off at Lowe's. I will try this in the Spring.
Damian
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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List]

We tried Goo Gone and contact cement solvent, and a few other things, the only 
thing that worked was a product called Goof Off, bought at Canadian Tire. 
Dampen a rag with it and hold it in place on the glue, it's takes a few minutes 
to soften the original glue. Wear nitrile gloves and make very sure you have 
good ventilation. And be patient.
Brad
"Pulse"1985 C 33-2
Lake Huron
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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Damian Greene via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Now - if someone could tell me what would work to remove the dried Velcro
> adhesive residue from my headliner?



Side grinder?  Flame thrower?

Seriously, that stuff is tenacious.  I used acetone and lots of elbow
grease and it still shows stains.  If you're really serious, use solvents
then maybe hit it with some 800 or 1000 grit wet/dry sandpaper.

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

Allen,

Here is the practical sailor issue with the hook and loop article:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwhcX19YaPJ8QXRINkZab0tnSzg/view?usp=drivesdk

Let me know if it doesn't work for you.

Kevin
PDX

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 6:44 AM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Alan,
>
>
>
> The original Velcro was very strong, but everything else I’ve tried has
> not lasted long.  My panels are now all screwed to the overhead.  I was
> tired of watching them fall off the ceiling when bashing into big waves.
> The SS screws are all capped with covers to match the overhead.  Looks neat
> and professional, but a pain to remove by hand.
>
>
>
> Jake
>
>
>
> *Jake Brodersen*
>
> *C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>
> *Hampton VA*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *ALAN
> BERGEN via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:47
>
>
> *To:* C 
> *Cc:* ALAN BERGEN 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Velcro Adhesive
>
>
>
> I'm replacing all of the ceiling access panels (1/8" plywood with cloth
> covering) with FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic).  The existing ones are
> screwed in.  I want to use Velcro instead.  What is the  recommended
> adhesive for this? Input from anyone who has first hand experience would be
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Alan Bergen
>
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>
> Rose City YC
>
> Portland, OR
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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Alan,

 

The original Velcro was very strong, but everything else I’ve tried has not 
lasted long.  My panels are now all screwed to the overhead.  I was tired of 
watching them fall off the ceiling when bashing into big waves.  The SS screws 
are all capped with covers to match the overhead.  Looks neat and professional, 
but a pain to remove by hand.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

Hampton VA

 

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:47
To: C 
Cc: ALAN BERGEN 
Subject: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

 

I'm replacing all of the ceiling access panels (1/8" plywood with cloth 
covering) with FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic).  The existing ones are 
screwed in.  I want to use Velcro instead.  What is the  recommended adhesive 
for this? Input from anyone who has first hand experience would be appreciated.


 

Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Damian Greene via CnC-List]

Dennis,
Thank you! That is a great suggestion. I have been dealing with Velcro to 
attach my mosquito screens to my hatches. This is a much better solution. 
Definitely on the list for next Spring.
Now - if someone could tell me what would work to remove the dried Velcro 
adhesive residue from my headliner?
Damian Greene1982 C 34 GhostBass Harbor, Maine

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 Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 5:43 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive
   

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Lee Youngblood via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

What do you mean Snap In?  Did you install snaps or maybe build a teak frame 
and stretch mosquito screen like a painting, and wedge it into the fiberglass 
liner somehow making it stay there? 


Lee, I mean canvas snaps and studs, like these:  

https://www.amazon.com/Pieces-Stainless-Fastener-Marine-Socket/dp/B01FLUW1D2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8=1479619961=8-2=canvas+snaps

The screens have Sunbrella borders with the snaps.  The studs are screwed into 
the headliner around the forward hatch or, in the case of the companionway, the 
wood trim and the edge of the sliding hatch.  They fit tight and keep out the 
skeeters.

Nice thing about them is they fold up small and stow easily.  I could almost 
put both the forward hatch screen and the companionway screen in a 1 gallon zip 
bag.

Pics are here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsX1dZQ2pQZmlhMkk

Dennis C.

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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Lee Youngblood via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> What do you mean Snap In?  Did you install snaps or maybe build a teak
> frame and stretch mosquito screen like a painting, and wedge it into the
> fiberglass liner somehow making it stay there?



Lee, I mean canvas snaps and studs, like these:

https://www.amazon.com/Pieces-Stainless-Fastener-Marine-Socket/dp/B01FLUW1D2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8=1479619961=8-2=canvas+snaps

The screens have Sunbrella borders with the snaps.  The studs are screwed
into the headliner around the forward hatch or, in the case of the
companionway, the wood trim and the edge of the sliding hatch.  They fit
tight and keep out the skeeters.

Nice thing about them is they fold up small and stow easily.  I could
almost put both the forward hatch screen and the companionway screen in a 1
gallon zip bag.

Pics are here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsX1dZQ2pQZmlhMkk

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

Alan, practical sailor reviewed hook and loop fasteners recently. Suffice
it to say, as with everything boat related, evolution happens... in a good
way. I was very impressed with the options available, some absurdly strong.
I will track it down and send to you.

Are you out tomorrow for the Sunday series? Velocity is still at Schooner
Creek so I  am going to guest crew on Fury, Fred's gorgeous Rob Ball
designed 44 and see what 14 more feet of C feels like ;)

Best, Kevin

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016, 8:19 PM Lee Youngblood via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> OK Dennis,
>
> What do you mean Snap In?  Did you install snaps or maybe build a teak
> frame and stretch mosquito screen like a painting, and wedge it into the
> fiberglass liner somehow making it stay there?  Surely you have some
> cleaver hocos-pocus or little round head screws?
>
> Please say master. . .
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Try some 3M Command strips.  They make some with hook and loop.  I think
> they may be the picture hanging strips.  At the very least, the adhesive
> will come off without staining.
>
> I use 3M Command hooks in the galley to hang important things like bottle
> openers.  :)  They've been attached to the cabin headliner for a few years
> now.  I used to use the suction cup hooks.  Had to replace the cups every
> few years.
>
> Just for the record, I HATE Velcro strips and the adhesive that stains
> gelcoat.  I spent hours trying to remove the stuff from Touche' from the
> PO.  Never did get it all off.
>
> When I had screens made for Touche', I made them so them snap in.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:46 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I'm replacing all of the ceiling access panels (1/8" plywood with cloth
> covering) with FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic).  The existing ones are
> screwed in.  I want to use Velcro instead.  What is the  recommended
> adhesive for this? Input from anyone who has first hand experience would be
> appreciated.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

OK Dennis,

What do you mean Snap In?  Did you install snaps or maybe build a teak frame 
and stretch mosquito screen like a painting, and wedge it into the fiberglass 
liner somehow making it stay there?  Surely you have some cleaver hocos-pocus 
or little round head screws?

Please say master. . . 


> On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Try some 3M Command strips.  They make some with hook and loop.  I think they 
> may be the picture hanging strips.  At the very least, the adhesive will come 
> off without staining.
> 
> I use 3M Command hooks in the galley to hang important things like bottle 
> openers.  :)  They've been attached to the cabin headliner for a few years 
> now.  I used to use the suction cup hooks.  Had to replace the cups every few 
> years.
> 
> Just for the record, I HATE Velcro strips and the adhesive that stains 
> gelcoat.  I spent hours trying to remove the stuff from Touche' from the PO.  
> Never did get it all off.
> 
> When I had screens made for Touche', I made them so them snap in.  
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:46 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
> > wrote:
> I'm replacing all of the ceiling access panels (1/8" plywood with cloth 
> covering) with FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic).  The existing ones are 
> screwed in.  I want to use Velcro instead.  What is the  recommended adhesive 
> for this? Input from anyone who has first hand experience would be 
> appreciated.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Alan.

Isn't FRP "blasphemy" in a salon or so I thought that was the consensus when I 
did mine.  I tried the Velcro route and didn't like the look.  Too bulky at the 
edges.  I used 4200 to secure the panels.  So semi-permanent.  I re-bedded 
everything prior.  Had to brace the panels in place until the 4200 set.  There 
are a few pictures Persuasion37.com under "the boat".  I put the bubble side 
down and painted the head liner Interlux Perfection "blue glo" white.  Really 
brightens the salon. 

Mike
PERSUASION
www.persuasion37.com
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Nov 19, 2016, at 11:46 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm replacing all of the ceiling access panels (1/8" plywood with cloth 
> covering) with FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic).  The existing ones are 
> screwed in.  I want to use Velcro instead.  What is the  recommended adhesive 
> for this? Input from anyone who has first hand experience would be 
> appreciated.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Try some 3M Command strips.  They make some with hook and loop.  I think
they may be the picture hanging strips.  At the very least, the adhesive
will come off without staining.

I use 3M Command hooks in the galley to hang important things like bottle
openers.  :)  They've been attached to the cabin headliner for a few years
now.  I used to use the suction cup hooks.  Had to replace the cups every
few years.

Just for the record, I HATE Velcro strips and the adhesive that stains
gelcoat.  I spent hours trying to remove the stuff from Touche' from the
PO.  Never did get it all off.

When I had screens made for Touche', I made them so them snap in.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:46 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm replacing all of the ceiling access panels (1/8" plywood with cloth
> covering) with FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic).  The existing ones are
> screwed in.  I want to use Velcro instead.  What is the  recommended
> adhesive for this? Input from anyone who has first hand experience would be
> appreciated.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Dave via CnC-List]

Before messing with glue, at least try the self-adhesive industrial Velcro.   A 
different breed, very tenacious.  
Dave.



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My panels are velcro'd all around and screwed in each corner. The velcro
that the PO used was the self-adhesive kind and it hasn't lasted well. It
also left sticky bits in all the wrong places as it failed, so it's
difficult to replace. If it was my choice, I would use a good quality
solvent-based contact cement.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Alan – 

My panels are original and Velcro.  The only thing I’ve found to reattach the 
existing tape, or securely hold new, is epoxy.  I’ve tried so many different 
things I’ve lost track of all of them, but virtually everything else has failed 
within a year.  

 

It’s an aggressive solution, but I also don’t expect to remove the tape anytime 
soon.

 

Hope that helps,

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:47 AM
To: C 
Cc: ALAN BERGEN 
Subject: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

 

I'm replacing all of the ceiling access panels (1/8" plywood with cloth 
covering) with FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic).  The existing ones are 
screwed in.  I want to use Velcro instead.  What is the  recommended adhesive 
for this? Input from anyone who has first hand experience would be appreciated.


 

Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

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Re: Stus-List Velcro Adhesive

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

My panels are velcro'd all around and screwed in each corner. The velcro
that the PO used was the self-adhesive kind and it hasn't lasted well. It
also left sticky bits in all the wrong places as it failed, so it's
difficult to replace. If it was my choice, I would use a good quality
solvent-based contact cement.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 19 November 2016 at 08:46, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm replacing all of the ceiling access panels (1/8" plywood with cloth
> covering) with FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic).  The existing ones are
> screwed in.  I want to use Velcro instead.  What is the  recommended
> adhesive for this? Input from anyone who has first hand experience would be
> appreciated.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
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