Hi:

I was struck with Chris Knight’s post about recently viewing less-than- 
definitive fields marks on a Winter/Pacific Wren. Sibley presents this tricky 
identification dilemma by being equivocal. For example, he states for the 
Pacific Wren “ …from Winter Wren….averages slightly darker and more rufous, 
best identified by voice.” For voice Sibley continues with more equivocation by 
stating “…each male Winter sings a repertoire of two songs, while each male 
Pacific switches between thirty and more songs.” This statement suggests there 
could be variation in  the Pacific Wren song. How would one know which song 
type or variation of song type you are hearing? Also, this statement suggests 
there could be overlap in song types between the two wrens. In addition, what's 
not been established is the degree of variation for each wren and the possible 
degree of overlapping features. 

Annoying as it is some Winter/Pacific wrens just can’t adequately be ID in the 
field at this time. Let’s keep working on it. 

Thanks for Chris’s informative post.

Bob Righter
Denver CO    

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