Re: [cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson) No RNGR or LTDU

2018-01-11 Thread Ira Sanders
Well done Joe. Ira Sanders On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Joe Roller wrote: > Bob > The above is wrong. > I talked to the head of Coors Securtiy (very cordial) about noon, and she > will call me back after she checks. > > *Birders* want to be good neighbors and know what

Re: [cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson) No RNGR or LTDU

2018-01-11 Thread Ira Sanders
Didn't seem to bother us in years past. Ira Sanders On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Joe Roller wrote: > The deep background on the care with which Coors guards its property is > that > a few decades ago, the family suffered a horrible child kidnapping and > murder. > Plus a

Re: [cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson) No RNGR or LTDU

2018-01-11 Thread Joe Roller
The deep background on the care with which Coors guards its property is that a few decades ago, the family suffered a horrible child kidnapping and murder. Plus a Coors family member lives right on the lakeshore. I can see why they are sensitive. Joe Roller, Denver On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 8:04

[cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson)

2018-01-11 Thread Rachel Hopper
Here is an idea. Maybe someone that wants to view this pond should call Coors, explain what birders are doing there, and ask permission. Here is their number. +1-303-927-2337 (main switchboard) Sent from my iPhone Rachel Hopper Ft. Collins -- You received this message because you are

[cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson) No RNGR or LTDU

2018-01-11 Thread Steven Rash
Let me just preface this by saying I am not a lawyer. I looked up the zoning for the properties along McIntyre right there and according to Jeffco Co records the property line does extend to the center of the road from both sides... In this case the use of McIntyre is likely an easement which

[cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson) No RNGR or LTDU

2018-01-11 Thread Kyle Medina
I got off work and saw you. You were not on the road. You were right up against fence. Unless the grass is public you were on private property. You were parked on private property too because you parked where the semis parked. They are hired for this exact reason. You become a liability for the

Re: [cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson) No RNGR or LTDU

2018-01-10 Thread 'Mark Obmascik' via Colorado Birds
Pretty amazing that a company doesn't want to show off actual wild creatures living on its property after the same company twice killed almost all fish (tens of thousands) on seven miles of Clear Creek with its industrial spills; pleaded guilty to two criminal violations of state environmental

Re: [cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson) No RNGR or LTDU

2018-01-10 Thread Ira Sanders
Birders, Here is a little more on the subject: Photography may be prohibited or restricted by a property owner on their property. However, a property owner generally cannot restrict the photographing of the property by individuals who are not within the bounds of the property. Photographing

Re: [cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson) No RNGR or LTDU

2018-01-10 Thread 'Migrant' via Colorado Birds
Several years ago (before I realized that it was controlled by a hunting club) I was headed up the dam at Riverside Reservoir (out near Jackson, in the middle of nowhere, for those who might not be familiar) when a guy roared up in a beat up pickup and asked what I was doing. I attempted to

Re: [cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson) No RNGR or LTDU

2018-01-10 Thread Kathy and Jeff Dunning
Bob and all - The law is quite clear. Entities such as Coors may query you with regards to your activities, but standing on McIntyre (a public road) and taking pictures of the "Coors Ponds" is completely within your rights.

[cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson) No RNGR or LTDU

2018-01-10 Thread W. Robert Shade III
I too was questioned by Coors Company security. I was standing outside the fence (of course!) on the west side scoping the lake for Red-necked Grebe and Long-tailed Duck and *found neither*. Two drake Red-breasted Mergansers and four Ruddy Ducks. I had only been there fifteen minutes or less when