David, John, Glenn, and All,
This is a nice thread about a subject I don't recall ever coming up on COBIRDS. 
 I was with Janeal and Jane today at Denver West trying for the Pine Warbler 
(which we did NOT find, despite finding the bushtits, the juncos, the 
nuthatches, the chickadees, and many other birds).  What a neat place.  One of 
the major attractions for birds in the Scots Pines, which are the predominate 
species of pine that I saw, is Pine Tortoise Scale.  Some of the pines are 
heavily infested (the scales are reddish purple lumps on the small twigs within 
4-5 inches of the branch ends).  This is a chronic pest of pines that I suspect 
has been part of the attraction for winter warblers and other small gleaners to 
that business park's landscaping for decades.  Whomever has the contract to 
care for the grounds is getting some free assistance from several species of 
birds including the ones mentioned above, plus Cedar Waxwings.  

But back to the subject, we also found a small flock of Red Crossbills.  This 
appeared to be a mixed flock that I think included a 2, mostly 5s, and I am 
pretty sure a few 4s.  Janeal got a pic of a big-billed male (probably a 5) 
with thin, white wingbars.

David mentions the relative prominence of the wing-bars as being a helpful 
separation between aberrant Red and White-winged.  I am pretty sure the shade 
of red should be helpful, also, with Reds being darker and more brick hues, 
with the White-winged being distinctly pink.

And I must concur with Brandon and Duane who have indicated recently they sure 
hope people are not forgetting about posting to COBIRDS because of eBird.  Both 
have their strengths, with discussions like the White-winged Red Crossbills 
being one of the advantages of a discussion, sharing group like COBIRDS.

One more thing:
Ragarding my post about bad behavior at the Larimer Woodcock situation, the 
feedback I got was all positive.  Based on the number of questionable birder 
behaviors being quite low, I was maybe a bit over the top, who knows?  But 
there are right ways to do our passion and wrong ways.  If whatever we choose 
to do passes the "did it hurt the bird, the habitat, the neighbors, or other 
birders?" test, it's probably OK.  That's all I meant to say.  Fawn Simonds the 
finder of the bird did everything right and nothing wrong.  Austin Hess, one of 
Fawn's friends whom she called to tell of her super-exciting find, did nothing 
wrong by posting this bird to COBIRDS.  99% of the people who have gone to see 
this bird have done our sport proud.  The bird seems oblivious or at least OK 
with all the attention it is getting.  It has its limits and flushes when 
pushed, like any living creature would.  But it keeps coming back, apparently 
because of something (annelid worms, most likely) it is getting from under 
heavy leaf litter at the interface between the spring-fed stream and nearby 
frozen soil.  I have asked the local Ranger Carl (who has been very 
accommodating and helpful to all birders) for permission to sample this 
soil/leaf litter after the bird leaves, to see if we can figure out what it has 
been probing for with that awesome bill.  What a creature, perfectly adapted to 
its microhabitat.  

Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:52:21 -0700
Subject: Re: [cobirds] White-winged Red Crossbill , Park County
From: dsuddj...@gmail.com
To: cobirds@googlegroups.com

I also had a male Red Crossbill (Type 2) showing narrow white wingbars along 
Meadow Road in Park earlier this month. That is between Pine Junction and 
Bailey. It was the only such that I recall seeing. On that Red individual the 
wingbars were less bold than on the White-winged, in my limited experience with 
the latter.
David SuddjianLittleton, CO
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Glenn and Laurie <jun...@comcast.net> wrote:




I photographed a white-winged, Red Crossbill last year in Clear Creek 
County.  Thanks John for reminding us that some 1st year Red Crossbills can 
indeed have white wing-bars.
 
Glenn Walbek
Castle Rock, CO
 


 

From: 'John D' via Colorado Birds 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 7:12 PM
To: cobirds@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [cobirds] White-winged Red Crossbill , Park 
County
 
CO Birders 
:

    A cautionary tale .

A group of us searching 
this afternoon for the White-winged Crossbills reported by David Sudjian in 
Park 
County along CR 98 recently found a type 4 male Red Crossbill with two narrow 
white wing bars along CR 403  .  Disappointment at first but just 
second time that I have seen this variant .

John Drummond
Colorado 
Springs . 
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