Fascinating discussion, but almost impossible to follow because of the addition of all the previous messages to the new message -- I have to parse the thing over and over to find out what's new. As Todd, the listmaster, [and thanks Todd, for your efforts] and his predecessors have urged, can you somehow delete the message(s) to which you're replying? It would sure save confusion (at least for some of us who subscribe to Cobirds via the digest).
I have always thought that White-winged not only had extra white in the rectrices but that they are consistently larger than the other juncos, including Pink-sided. Sometimes we see juncos here, White-winged, I think: gray, no wing bars, but obviously larger than the others. Usually they display extra white in the tail. And my impression, like Bruce Webb's, is of a pearlier, more neutral gray, not dark gray, irrespective of whether or not they sport white wing bars. Also, my impression: Slate-colored tend to have darker gray plumage. This winter I've noticed a couple of non-White-winged juncos with white wing bars; pink-sided type and Oregon type. I guess the juncos all belong to the same species, and they don't always mate with carbon copies. Hugh Kingery Franktown, CO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To post to this group, send email to cobirds@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cobirds?hl=en.