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On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:40 PM, Michael Crawford mdcrawf...@gmail.com wrote:
The last time I reported a bug of any sort to anyone, I reported quite
a serious iOS security hole via Radar.
The Apple engineer who responded quite angrily closed my bug as works
as expected. He didn't just close
On 2015 Jan 05, at 18:38, Graham Cox wrote:
People suggested that OS X had jumped the shark with Lion. If so,
we're into Jaws VIII vs. Godzilla 3D territory now.
They foisted intentionally blurry text on us by 2002, but don't single
out the Apple execs and management. It has infected all
The last time I reported a bug of any sort to anyone, I reported quite
a serious iOS security hole via Radar.
The Apple engineer who responded quite angrily closed my bug as works
as expected. He didn't just close the bug - he expressed a great
deal of anger for having reported the exploit at
On 7 Jan 2015, at 9:56 am, Uli Kusterer witness.of.teacht...@gmx.net wrote:
It’s amazing how many people don’t understand what the phrase “leaving aside”
means on this mailing list. :-p
True, but it's also clear that it's a source of frustration for developers, and
one where there's no
On 05 Jan 2015, at 13:58, Charles Jenkins cejw...@gmail.com wrote:
Leaving aside any discussion of whether it was a good idea to add vibrancy
to the OS, I do have a question about how to use it.
It’s amazing how many people don’t understand what the phrase “leaving aside”
means on this
Leaving aside any discussion of whether it was a good idea to add vibrancy to
the OS, I do have a question about how to use it.
When a popup window or a pulldown such as a menu appears, using the content of
whatever's under it as the source image for vibrancy makes sense because the
On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:58 AM, Charles Jenkins wrote:
Leaving aside any discussion of whether it was a good idea to add vibrancy
to the OS, I do have a question about how to use it.
Um, it was a terrible amateurish idea.
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On Jan 5, 2015, at 11:00:57, Paul Scott psc...@skycoast.us wrote:
On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:01 AM, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote:
On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:58 AM, Charles Jenkins wrote:
Leaving aside any discussion of whether it was a good idea to add
vibrancy to the OS, I do have a question
On Jan 5, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Paul Scott psc...@skycoast.us wrote:
And a waste of time that should have been spent elsewhere.
I usually dislike piling in on Apple's UI blunders, but in this case I'm
compelled to agree :-p
I honestly thought that in the post-Steve-Jobs era we at least
On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:01 AM, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote:
On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:58 AM, Charles Jenkins wrote:
Leaving aside any discussion of whether it was a good idea to add vibrancy
to the OS, I do have a question about how to use it.
Um, it was a terrible amateurish idea.
And
On 6 Jan 2015, at 4:11 am, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote:
I honestly thought that in the post-Steve-Jobs era we at least wouldn't get
these pointless gee-wow visual effects anymore; he was always very
susceptible to them.
Glad I'm not the only one thinking this.
It's not just
My app will have a source view, so I'd like to know if there's a way to tell
the window server to use only the desktop image to create vibrancy effects in
a the sidebar, ignoring any other windows which may lie between my app and
the desktop.
This is not possible.
corbin
OMG, did they release Xcode 4 again? No? Then what are we talking about?
[I’m begging you all to take your opinions on this subject somewhere where I
don’t have to see them.]
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On 5 Jan 2015, at 11:58 pm, Charles Jenkins cejw...@gmail.com wrote:
if there's a way to tell the window server to use only the desktop image to
create vibrancy effects in a the sidebar, ignoring any other windows which
may lie between my app and the desktop
Would you really want that,
I'm going to be 51 years old soon. I spend all day long staring at a
computer. I've had trouble with eye fatigue for years.
Semitransparent windows drive me nuts; to the extent I can turn off
the effect I do so.
Michael David Crawford, Consulting Software Engineer
mdcrawf...@gmail.com
On 6 Jan 2015, at 07:38, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote:
On 6 Jan 2015, at 4:11 am, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote:
I honestly thought that in the post-Steve-Jobs era we at least wouldn't get
these pointless gee-wow visual effects anymore; he was always very
susceptible
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote:
It's not just pointless eye-candy, it's actually contrary to usability. In
Safari, I'd come to the conclusion that the window frame tint was an
indication of whether you were in a private session or a non-private one,
Well, the user has selected a desktop wallpaper he likes, presumably with a
pleasing color scheme. Taking vibrancy from an image the user has already
indicated a preference for is much kinder than blurring in whatever happens to
be in a window behind the foreground app.
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Charles Jenkins
On
On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com
mailto:j...@mooseyard.com wrote:
I guess the best we can do as developers is to vote with our feet by not
adopting it in our apps.
The documentation for implementing vibrancy in our own views is incomplete,
inconsistent and
On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Bill Cheeseman wrote:
On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com
mailto:j...@mooseyard.com wrote:
I guess the best we can do as developers is to vote with our feet by not
adopting it in our apps.
The documentation for implementing
I guess the best we can do as developers is to vote with our feet by not
adopting it in our apps. (I haven't had to deal with an OS X source list in a
while; I assume vibrancy has to be opted into? Or at least there's a way to
opt out?)
No, it is on by default and no way (that I know of,
Georg, I believe you can uncheck allows vibrancy in IB.
But back to my original question: does anyone know how to make the vibrancy
effect be based only on the desktop image, ignoring any other windows which
might be beneath the foreground app?
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Charles
On Monday, January 5, 2015 at
On 05/01/15 19:32, Georg Seifert wrote:
I guess the best we can do as developers is to vote with our feet by not adopting it in
our apps. (I haven't had to deal with an OS X source list in a while; I assume
vibrancy has to be opted into? Or at least there's a way to opt out?)
No, it is on
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