People,
This my first post on this list, and I am very disappointed that I am chiming
into this kind of conversation. This will be my only post on this subject and I
think I can make myself very clear.
On 16/04/2010, at 14:22, Jayson Adams wrote:
On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Kyle Sluder
Hi,
Is there a way to programmatically empty the Trash can?
I could delete all files from /Users/account/.Trash folder, but I am
not sure if it's a legitimate way. Also it will not include trashed
files from other volumes, stored in /.Trashes/account id. The latter
are generally not accessible
On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Oleg Krupnov wrote:
I could delete all files from /Users/account/.Trash folder, but I am
not sure if it's a legitimate way.
It's not, because it will anger anybody who prefers to empty the trash
securely.
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On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Oleg Krupnov oleg.krup...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Is there a way to programmatically empty the Trash can?
This code is ancient, but it should give you an idea where to start
writing a modern version:
On Apr 16, 2010, at 1:05 AM, Oleg Krupnov wrote:
Hi,
Is there a way to programmatically empty the Trash can?
I could delete all files from /Users/account/.Trash folder, but I am
not sure if it's a legitimate way. Also it will not include trashed
files from other volumes, stored in
On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Oleg Krupnov wrote:
Is there a way to programmatically empty the Trash can?
Send the Finder an ‘Empty Trash’ AppleEvent. You can use the scripting bridge
API to do this pretty easily.
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What is securely in this context?
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Dave Carrigan d...@rudedog.org wrote:
On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Oleg Krupnov wrote:
I could delete all files from /Users/account/.Trash folder, but I am
not sure if it's a legitimate way.
It's not, because it will anger
Yes, I see that I can use AppleScript. But is this really the only
way? I would like to avoid Finder UIs popping up.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote:
On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Oleg Krupnov wrote:
Is there a way to programmatically empty the Trash can?
tell application Finder to empty trash without warns before emptying
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But the progress-bar window will still pop up...
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Dave Keck davek...@gmail.com wrote:
tell application Finder to empty trash without warns before emptying
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But the progress-bar window will still pop up...
I would consider that a part of the high-level concept of emptying
the trash. NSFileManager is probably what you're looking for, in
combination with the mentioned AppleScript to update the trash icon:
http://pastie.org/922743
Needs
Forgive me for posting before reading all of your original message -
having done so I see my response doesn't help much. Sorry for the
noise.
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Don't.
The only app that the user wants to empty the trash is Finder, not yours. If
they want it emptied (or emptied securely), they'll go to the Finder and use
the menu there. It's OK for your app to move stuff to the trash as long as it's
clear to the user that will happen, but emptying it
On 16 Apr 2010, at 08:22, Graham Cox wrote:
Don't.
The only app that the user wants to empty the trash is Finder, not yours. If
they want it emptied (or emptied securely), they'll go to the Finder and use
the menu there. It's OK for your app to move stuff to the trash as long as
it's
On 16 Apr 2010, at 09:46:27, Jeremy Pereira wrote:
On 16 Apr 2010, at 08:22, Graham Cox wrote:
Don't.
The only app that the user wants to empty the trash is Finder, not yours. If
they want it emptied (or emptied securely), they'll go to the Finder and use
the menu there. It's OK for
On 16 Apr 2010, at 10:29, Matt Gough wrote:
On 16 Apr 2010, at 09:46:27, Jeremy Pereira wrote:
On 16 Apr 2010, at 08:22, Graham Cox wrote:
Don't.
The only app that the user wants to empty the trash is Finder, not yours.
If they want it emptied (or emptied securely), they'll go to
On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Jeremy Pereira wrote:
+1 to that. Any application that emptied my Trash programmatically would
find itself being the first new item in there.
ditto.
soapbox
The whole reason the trash exists is so users do not accidentally lose data. It
gives them the
On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Oleg Krupnov wrote:
But the progress-bar window will still pop up…
Every once in a while a question on cocoa-dev gives me the uncomfortable
feeling that someone is trying to get help in writing a piece of malware. This
is one of them. No offense if that’s not
The only app that the user wants to empty the trash is Finder, not yours. If
they want it emptied (or emptied securely), they'll go to the Finder and use
the menu there. It's OK for your app to move stuff to the trash as long as
it's clear to the user that will happen, but emptying it is
On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Oleg Krupnov wrote:
No, Jens, your feeling is wrong. I'm developing an app for disk space
management, particularly for freeing up disk space. Actually you can
take a look: http://www.daisydiskapp.com. The new version of the app I
am developing will allow deleting
On Apr 16, 2010, at 12:22 AM, Graham Cox wrote:
Don't.
The only app that the user wants to empty the trash is Finder, not yours. If
they want it emptied (or emptied securely), they'll go to the Finder and use
the menu there. It's OK for your app to move stuff to the trash as long as
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Jayson Adams jay...@circusponies.com wrote:
Hey all of you of limited vision standing on your soapboxes - give me a
break! He couldn't possibly be asking because he wants to create a
Finder/desktop replacement app (like the Finder works so well we don't need
On Apr 16, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Jayson Adams wrote:
He couldn't possibly be asking because he wants to create a Finder/desktop
replacement app (like the Finder works so well we don't need one of those).
Before replacing the Finder with a superior implementation one might want to
be aware of
On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote:
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Jayson Adams jay...@circusponies.com wrote:
These kinds of preachy know-it-all rants are really tiresome, but
unfortunately they happen a lot on this list.
They happen a lot on this list because that kind
But emptying the trash will delete files on *other mounted volumes* as well,
not just the disk being examined.
rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
For volumes other than the startup volume it is a little more complicated:
rm -rf /Volumes/volume_name/.Trashes/uid/*
The Finder seems to notice when you do this
On Apr 16, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Paul Sanders wrote:
But emptying the trash will delete files on *other mounted volumes* as
well, not just the disk being examined.
rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
For volumes other than the startup volume it is a little more complicated:
rm -rf
On Apr 16, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Paul Sanders wrote:
rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
For volumes other than the startup volume it is a little more
complicated:
rm -rf /Volumes/volume_name/.Trashes/uid/*
Please don't hardcode those paths. Use system APIs like FindFolder
instead to locate the trash
Please don't hardcode those paths. Use system APIs like
FindFolder
instead to locate the trash directory for a given volume.
Well, OK, but you get the idea.
Paul Sanders.
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On Apr 16, 2010, at 11:03, Raffael Cavallaro wrote:
Again, someone who doesn't have an expert knowledge of the intended operation
of the Finder and an equally experienced knowledge of user expectations
shouldn't be doing this.
In the [possibly] few moments that remain before this thread is
On 16.04.10 11:29, Matt Gough wrote:
To be fair though, if it is a user-initiated emptying and it is done via
Finder, then I think it is fine to initiate a Trash emptying from another app.
What isn't fine is for it to be done behind the user's back.
As long as it is obvious that this empties
As long as it is obvious that this empties the system-wide trash. After
all, Mail.app and other programs have their own trashes, and you
wouldn't want a user to think they're emptying a local trash and
suddenly delete a file they meant to recover.
In case it wasn't obvious, my earlier rm -rf
On 17/04/2010, at 4:41 AM, Quincey Morris wrote:
We keep shooting ourselves in the foot on this list by not first asking
enough questions.
Why should we though? If a poster can't muster the effort to sketch an outline
of why they want to do a certain thing, it falls into the category of
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