Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-08-02 Thread Dave
On 30 Jul 2015, at 18:16, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote: On Jul 30, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Shane Stanley wrote: On 30 Jul 2015, at 9:36 pm, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote: Including me, I know of three people who have gotten these. FWIW, it's also happening to on at least one other

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-31 Thread Michael David Crawford
Blue-Eyed Cass promised me what every man desired but few can obtain mere hours after we friended each other on Facebook. I live with my mother in Ghana. I expect her really does, but the real tragedy of Blue-Eyed Cass is not that she depletes lonely men of all they possess, but that she does

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-31 Thread Graham Cox
On 30 Jul 2015, at 11:45 pm, Shane Stanley sstan...@myriad-com.com.au wrote: Olivia seems to get around. Maybe we should give her the benefit of the doubt. I sent her my credit card details and now she’s promised she’s going to come and visit once she’s sorted out the flights. You’ll all

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread 2551
I’m on both of the affected lists, but so far have not been treated to Olivia’s favour (meanwhile my inbox is bulging with mail complaining about her, and I apologise in advance to contributing to that count, effectively spamming myself… :(. On 30 Jul 2015, at 20:45, Shane Stanley

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Uli Kusterer
On 30 Jul 2015, at 13:57, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: The easy answer is for the Apple lists NOT to send email addresses of the poster(s) and to direct all replies to the list itself. When I hit reply, it set TO: to the original sender, then CC:The List and others in the thread,

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Dave
I seem to remember one trick back in the old days, was to munge up your email address some thing like this nodaves...@looktowindward.com or some such and I seem to remember I had one dedicated email address for lists (or at least the Apple Lists). Not sure if that would work on this problem,

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Bill Cheeseman
People have been asking for this change for at least 15 years, and it has been refused just as many times. As a born skeptic, I doubt there is any point in asking again now. -- Bill Cheeseman - wjcheese...@comcast.net On Jul 30, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Uli Kusterer witness.of.teacht...@gmx.net

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Alex Zavatone
Including me, I know of three people who have gotten these. I'll see if I still have the spam in one of my email boxes. On Jul 30, 2015, at 2:40 AM, Philip Ershler wrote: On Jul 29, 2015, at 11:57 PM, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: On Jul 29, 2015, at 10:30 PM,

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Dave
The easy answer is for the Apple lists NOT to send email addresses of the poster(s) and to direct all replies to the list itself. When I hit reply, it set TO: to the original sender, then CC:The List and others in the thread, this is what the spammer is picking up. Then any spam would go to

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Shane Stanley
On 30 Jul 2015, at 9:36 pm, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote: Including me, I know of three people who have gotten these. FWIW, it's also happening to on at least one other Apple mailing list. Olivia seems to get around. -- Shane Stanley sstan...@myriad-com.com.au

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Dave
Another thing to watch out for is giving “real” file paths in the body of emails to the list - e.g. cut and paste from log etc. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Dave
On 30 Jul 2015, at 14:57, 2551 2551p...@gmail.com wrote: I’m on both of the affected lists, but so far have not been treated to Olivia’s favour (meanwhile my inbox is bulging with mail complaining about her, and I apologise in advance to contributing to that count, effectively spamming

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Alex Zavatone
It's not a person called Olivia. It appears to be a group called meetsecret.net. I was just replying to Shane over on the ASOC list since someone mentioned that they are getting Olivia spam too and the very next message I got was from the same group with an other Olivia email. I think that if

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Michael David Crawford
Chris, Your old homey Mike suggests that cocoa-dev could use a little TLC. Mike On Thursday, July 30, 2015, Michael David Crawford mdcrawf...@gmail.com wrote: Internet Crime Complaint Center http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx The CERT Division http://www.cert.org/ Forum

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Michael David Crawford
Internet Crime Complaint Center http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx The CERT Division http://www.cert.org/ Forum on Risks to the Public in Computers and Related Systems http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/ I once used one-time emails to great effect. Unfortunately my hosting service

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Flavio Donadio
Alex, It’s about time the moderators kick this Olivia from this list. Anyone who hangs around with the .net and Android guys should be dangerous. Flavio On 30/07/2015, at 16:00, Alex Zavatone wrote: On Jul 30, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Shane Stanley wrote: FWIW, it's also happening to on at

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Philip Ershler
On Jul 29, 2015, at 11:57 PM, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: On Jul 29, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Joar Wingfors j...@joar.com wrote: On 29 Jul 2015, at 16:52, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote: On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Roland King r...@rols.org wrote: That's

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Charles Srstka
On Jul 30, 2015, at 12:57 AM, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: An additional clue to this puzzle is that not everyone who is subscribed to the list received such messages. I, for one, did not. -Carl Yeah, why is that? We’ve all been getting them, but you haven't! Why is

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Alex Zavatone
On Jul 30, 2015, at 2:40 AM, Philip Ershler wrote: On Jul 29, 2015, at 11:57 PM, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: On Jul 29, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Joar Wingfors j...@joar.com wrote: On 29 Jul 2015, at 16:52, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote: On Jul 29, 2015, at

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-30 Thread Alex Zavatone
On Jul 30, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Shane Stanley wrote: On 30 Jul 2015, at 9:36 pm, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote: Including me, I know of three people who have gotten these. FWIW, it's also happening to on at least one other Apple mailing list. Olivia seems to get around. Which other

Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-29 Thread Alex Zavatone
I guess this is more of a list admin request, but it's rather shocking to get these emails from Olivia coming from replying to an Apple listserve thread. Is there anything we can do about the harvesting of our PII (Personally Identifiable Information) from the list so that we don't have the joy

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-29 Thread Eric E. Dolecki
Gotta agree. I was shocked when that came in. On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 3:18 PM Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote: I guess this is more of a list admin request, but it's rather shocking to get these emails from Olivia coming from replying to an Apple listserve thread. Is there anything we can

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-29 Thread Charles Srstka
On Jul 29, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote: But honestly, the listserv is open and query-able and it looks like the spammers have found that out. I actually suspect it’s that a spammer has become registered for the list and is receiving the e-mails (and then sending an

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-29 Thread Graham Cox
On 30 Jul 2015, at 9:24 am, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: On Jul 29, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote: But honestly, the listserv is open and query-able and it looks like the spammers have found that out. I actually suspect it’s that a spammer has

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-29 Thread Charles Srstka
On Jul 29, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote: I don’t think there’s any way to figure out which subscriber it is. The spammer would almost certainly have subscribed under an anonymous Gmail or Yahoo address, not something easily detectable like

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-29 Thread Jens Alfke
On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Roland King r...@rols.org wrote: That's what I think to and the filth spread to the xcode list, or spread from the xcode list. I wrote to the admins on both lists and asked them to remove this scum feeder from all apple lists. I don’t think there’s any way to

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-29 Thread Roland King
On 30 Jul 2015, at 6:24 am, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: On Jul 29, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote: But honestly, the listserv is open and query-able and it looks like the spammers have found that out. I actually suspect it’s that a spammer has

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-29 Thread Carl Hoefs
On Jul 29, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Joar Wingfors j...@joar.com wrote: On 29 Jul 2015, at 16:52, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote: On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Roland King r...@rols.org wrote: That's what I think to and the filth spread to the xcode list, or spread from the xcode list. I

Re: Regarding these Olivia messages. Can we do something about the list security?

2015-07-29 Thread Joar Wingfors
On 29 Jul 2015, at 16:52, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote: On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Roland King r...@rols.org wrote: That's what I think to and the filth spread to the xcode list, or spread from the xcode list. I wrote to the admins on both lists and asked them to remove this