Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-18 Thread Bert Van Kets
At 15:44 16/07/2002 +0200, you wrote: >Berin Loritsch wrote: > >>Cocoon can definitely use its own blueprint. A Cocoon Application >>Blueprint is an essential document that we need. There are two ways >>of using Cocoon: integrated in with a traditional J2EE environment, >>and standalone. The bl

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-16 Thread J.Pietschmann
Piroumian Konstantin wrote: > IMO, the application should be business oriented, e.g. Banking, Billing, > CRM, Reporting or so. We can questionnairre users to see what is the most > needed use-case. I'm in dire need of the usual web based interface to source code control problem tracking pro

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
racle forms and it was a totally useless example. -Andy > > >>-Original Message- >>From: Anthony W. Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 7:41 AM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Piroumian Konstantin; >>'[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-16 Thread Steven Noels
Berin Loritsch wrote: > Cocoon can definitely use its own blueprint. A Cocoon Application > Blueprint is an essential document that we need. There are two ways > of using Cocoon: integrated in with a traditional J2EE environment, > and standalone. The blueprint will define exactly what part of

RE: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-16 Thread Berin Loritsch
Original Message- > From: Anthony W. Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 7:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Piroumian Konstantin; > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model > > > My $0.02 is: > A ) Create

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >-It's more fun than a screw-shop sample. > > ... nah... no comment. >fabien. > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-16 Thread Anthony W. Marino
My $0.02 is: A ) Create a Cocoon version of PetStore (XPetStore?) app similar to what JPetStore ( http://www.ibatis.com/jpetstore/jpetstore.html ) has done. This gives developers insight into the capabilities of Cocoon in a digestable manner. B ) In order for Cocoon to make it in a huge way I

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-16 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Artur Bialecki wrote: >I think cocoon web application blueprints are a great idea. >I had to get around many cocoon quirks to get it working >in a J2EE environment. I've always seen cocoon advertised >for web-publishing so I always thought that I'm not using >it for what it was intended. To be f

RE: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-16 Thread koen_pellegrims
the whole thing... Piroumian Konstantin To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subjec

RE: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-16 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
> From: TREGAN Fabien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > >* Insert your own idea here. > > I've always thought that a Chess Webbapp would demonstrate > Cocoon power : > -It has complexe application logic (you can check the > validity of a move, > you can get the whole state of the board fr

RE: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread TREGAN Fabien
>We need something that does three basic things: > >1) Has complex application logic--i.e. one approval > fires off several actions. That application logic > should be encapsulated in application specific > components. > >2) Need for a non-trivial model. In other words, let's > not talk

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >>3) Need for reports. Cocoon's integration with FOP is an >> excelent way to show off how reporting is integrated. >> We can show how to handle offline generated reports, and >> reports generated on demand. >> >> > >And something in rtf and excel. > > +1 >J. > > >---

RE: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread John Morrison
> From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > From: Artur Bialecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > I think cocoon web application blueprints are a great idea. > > I had to get around many cocoon quirks to get it working > > in a J2EE environment. I've always seen cocoon advertised >

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >>Now, let's not do another PetStore, maybe something >>more along the B to B model? >> >> > >We need something that does three basic things: > >1) Has complex application logic--i.e. one approval > fires off several actions. That application logic > should be encapsulated in applica

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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RE: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread koen_pellegrims
Berin Loritsch"To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [RT] Cocoon In

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
>Cocoon can definitely use its own blueprint. A Cocoon Application >Blueprint is an essential document that we need. There are two ways >of using Cocoon: integrated in with a traditional J2EE environment, >and standalone. The blueprint will define exactly what part of the >puzzle Cocoon suppo

RE: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread Berin Loritsch
> From: Artur Bialecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I think cocoon web application blueprints are a great idea. > I had to get around many cocoon quirks to get it working > in a J2EE environment. I've always seen cocoon advertised > for web-publishing so I always thought that I'm not using >

RE: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread Artur Bialecki
I think cocoon web application blueprints are a great idea. I had to get around many cocoon quirks to get it working in a J2EE environment. I've always seen cocoon advertised for web-publishing so I always thought that I'm not using it for what it was intended. To be fair J2EE has many quirks to

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread Steven Noels
Berin Loritsch wrote: > As of right now, the oppinions on how to get the best out of Cocoon > are as varied as the number of developers on the list. Amen. -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center [EM