Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-04 Thread Christian Haul
Torsten Knodt wrote: CH> > 20297 [PATCH] Added RequestURI in addition to SitemapURI to BaseLi CH> > -> no opinion: Christian? CH> won't fix -- module is deprecated and duplicates functionality of the CH> RequestInputModule Sure? BaseLink returnes something like ../../ to have a link back to the bas

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-04 Thread Torsten Knodt
CH> > 20297 [PATCH] Added RequestURI in addition to SitemapURI to BaseLi CH> > -> no opinion: Christian? CH> won't fix -- module is deprecated and duplicates functionality of the CH> RequestInputModule Sure? BaseLink returnes something like ../../ to have a link back to the base. Where is this sto

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-04 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Now - only about 20 hours later - only 26 entries with patches are left and the total number of open issues is 103. That is not bad considering the fact that a few new bugs were filed at the same time. Andreas - Original Message - From: "Andreas Kuckartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-04 Thread Geoff Howard
At 05:33 AM 6/3/2003, you wrote: On 3/06/2003 8:57 Carsten Ziegeler wrote: My point is, sending every three days an email to the list, saying "there are too many open patches/bugs" doesn't really help or motivate. Exactly. When I read these mails, I always end up with this vision of people trying

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-04 Thread Christian Haul
On 03.Jun.2003 -- 11:33 AM, Steven Noels wrote: > 12173 [PATCH] SQLTransformer Query object prematurely closes conne > > -> no opinion - someone should check > 15005 [PATCH] Extension to sendmail.xsp: lists for sendmail:cc > > -> comments by Christian -> no reply Forgot to close this bug -- hav

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Torsten Knodt
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 11:33, Steven Noels wrote: SN> 20185 [PATCH] TidySerializer SN> -> ongoing discussion: I'm -0 as well due to implementation choices SN> (don't expect others to come & clean up your work) Don't know if you really ment me for the last part. But to be sure: I don't think TidyS

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Steven Noels dijo: If people need food for discussion, here's my utterly uninformed and out-of-the-head opinion on these patches: 13070 [PATCH] Add a new tag to XSP -> ditto by Vadim & Christian -> no reply I think the ball is not in my side. :) Christian committ

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Steven Noels dijo: > If people need food for discussion, here's my utterly uninformed and > out-of-the-head opinion on these patches: > > 13070 [PATCH] Add a new tag to XSP > > -> ditto by Vadim & Christian -> no reply I think the ball is not in my side. :) Christian committed this patch, but Va

Re: bug handling guideline (Re: Unresolved bugs with patches)

2003-06-03 Thread Steven Noels
On 3/06/2003 11:10 Andreas Kuckartz wrote: I'm not against such a guideline and it might help in this case. So +1. But even with such a guideline, you can't force committers to do the work listed in the guideline. Correct, but it helps to guide them :-) The best way to provide guidance is by le

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Steven Noels
On 3/06/2003 8:57 Carsten Ziegeler wrote: My point is, sending every three days an email to the list, saying "there are too many open patches/bugs" doesn't really help or motivate. Exactly. When I read these mails, I always end up with this vision of people trying to 'corporatize' open source pro

Re: bug handling guideline (Re: Unresolved bugs with patches)

2003-06-03 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
> I'm not against such a guideline and it might help in this case. So +1. > > But even with such a guideline, you can't force committers to do the > work listed in the guideline. Correct, but it helps to guide them :-) I will try to find a suitable text which can be adapted. Andreas

RE: bug handling guideline (Re: Unresolved bugs with patches)

2003-06-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Andreas Kuckartz wrote: > > > But what about a bug handling guideline? > > Is there something similar for the Apache community in general? > > This is what I think is needed - and can be a result of this thread. > I'm not against such a guideline and it might help in this case. So +1. But even

bug handling guideline (Re: Unresolved bugs with patches)

2003-06-03 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
> We have at the moment 4 blockers: > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=Blocker&product=Cocoon+2&order=Bug+Number > > 1. Vadim, 2002-09-21: "Blocking 2.1 release" > 2. Berin, 2002-07-11 (bug reporter) > 3. 2002-11-07, u

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Joerg Heinicke
I think this is plain simple - as long as noone of the committers has time for it and has fun in doing so, nothing will happen. This is open source development and this means, things are not done because someone "forces" you to do them. Work is done because someone has fun in doing so. I don't want

RE: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Antonio Gallardo wrote: > > > Le Mardi, 3 juin 2003, à 08:06 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : > >> ...I think this is plain simple - as long as noone of the committers > >> has time for it and has fun in doing so, nothing will happen > Hi: > > but we also must think in users that use h

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Antonio Gallardo
> Le Mardi, 3 juin 2003, à 08:06 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : >> ...I think this is plain simple - as long as noone of the committers >> has time for it and has fun in doing so, nothing will happen Hi: but we also must think in users that use his time to fill a bugzilla report. Th

RE: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Le Mardi, 3 juin 2003, à 08:06 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : > > ...I think this is plain simple - as long as noone of the committers > > has > > time for it and has fun in doing so, nothing will happen > > Yes, but I think Joerg has a point too: more

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 3 juin 2003, à 08:06 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...I think this is plain simple - as long as noone of the committers has time for it and has fun in doing so, nothing will happen Yes, but I think Joerg has a point too: more comments on bugzilla could help people under

RE: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Joerg Heinicke wrote: > > But it's obvious we have a more or less bad bug handling. Most of the > bugs are not even ASSIGNED, so nobody can really see if it's only a bug > report of a user or a confirmed bug. Why don't we accept or reject a bug > within a month at the latest. > And the patches?

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Joerg Heinicke
I fail to see how ownership by a person would help in applying patches more consistently. Having a 'sponsoring committer' might help to get patches applied. Then again, I think you are looking at the symptom, not the cause. The fact no sponsoring committers exist for certain patches might tell

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
> The fact no sponsoring committers exist for certain > patches might tell more about the patch than the willingness of the > committers. That certainly is true for some of the patches. In my opinion it does make makes sense if committers enter a comment if they visit a patch and decide not to use

Re: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Steven Noels
On 2/06/2003 20:46 Andreas Kuckartz wrote: Here is a list of the 31 unresolved bugs for which patches have been created. Only one bug is "owned" by a person. The others are owned by the developers list. I fail to see how ownership by a person would help in applying patches more consistently. Havi