Re: XEOS : a commercially packaged Cocoon
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Sylvain Wallez wrote: > Steven Noels wrote: > > > Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > > >> Do some of you know about this product ? > > > > > > I downloaded it some time ago (more than a year ago, actually), and > > had some trouble getting it up & running. Dunnow whether it has > > evolved since then. > > > > Funny enough, I vaguely recall having a brief email exchange, > > mentioning its obvious Cocoon-basedness, and then the following answers: > > > > "Xeos2 is based on an early version of Cocoon2 that has been debugged > > and improved to form a basis for adding improved database functionality." > > > > and > > > > "We renamed the org.apache to com.heletel in order to maintain all > > files within a single package." > > > > Gee :-) > > > Yep. And instead of helping the community to debug Cocoon, they made > their own fork and are now miles away behind us ;-) That's called "paying stupid taxes" when one tries to catchup with the recent version of a previously forked OS project ;) Giacomo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XEOS : a commercially packaged Cocoon
Their web site is down. I wonder why. - Original Message - From: "Bernhard Huber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:10 PM Subject: Re: XEOS : a commercially packaged Cocoon > > > > Yep. And instead of helping the community to debug Cocoon, they made > > their own fork and are now miles away behind us ;-) > > well, they just need to reimport & rename the package names again, being > uptodate again > if they have scripts to do that job > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XEOS : a commercially packaged Cocoon
Yep. And instead of helping the community to debug Cocoon, they made their own fork and are now miles away behind us ;-) well, they just need to reimport & rename the package names again, being uptodate again if they have scripts to do that job - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XEOS : a commercially packaged Cocoon
Search for "cocoon" on their FAQ page. http://www.heletel.com/support/faqs.html Freudian slip, must be. All 11 of them. :-)) -- Ilya Sylvain Wallez wrote: Do some of you know about this product ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XEOS : a commercially packaged Cocoon
Steven Noels wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Do some of you know about this product ?
I downloaded it some time ago (more than a year ago, actually), and
had some trouble getting it up & running. Dunnow whether it has
evolved since then.
Funny enough, I vaguely recall having a brief email exchange,
mentioning its obvious Cocoon-basedness, and then the following answers:
"Xeos2 is based on an early version of Cocoon2 that has been debugged
and improved to form a basis for adding improved database functionality."
and
"We renamed the org.apache to com.heletel in order to maintain all
files within a single package."
Gee :-)
Yep. And instead of helping the community to debug Cocoon, they made
their own fork and are now miles away behind us ;-)
Sylvain
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Re: XEOS : a commercially packaged Cocoon
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Do some of you know about this product ? I downloaded it some time ago (more than a year ago, actually), and had some trouble getting it up & running. Dunnow whether it has evolved since then. Funny enough, I vaguely recall having a brief email exchange, mentioning its obvious Cocoon-basedness, and then the following answers: "Xeos2 is based on an early version of Cocoon2 that has been debugged and improved to form a basis for adding improved database functionality." and "We renamed the org.apache to com.heletel in order to maintain all files within a single package." Gee :-) -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XEOS : a commercially packaged Cocoon
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Hi folks,
A colleague of mine pointed me to XEOS at
http://www.heletel.com/products/xeos/index.html
This is a copy of Cocoon 2 (seems to be the 2.0.0 release) which has
been totally repackaged ("org.apache.cocoon" changed to
"com.heletel.xeos"). Strangely, though, the sitemap and XSP namespaces
have been kept as is.
I couldn't find any mention of Cocoon in the docs or accompanying
files, although the Apache license in its Tomacat incarnation since
they also embed Tomcat.
Do some of you know about this product ? Is it legal for them not to
mention Cocoon ?
I bet it's legal. They need to mention only ASF:
3. The end-user documentation included with the redistribution, if any,
must
include the following acknowledgment: "This product includes
software
developed by the Apache Software Foundation
(http://www.apache.org/)."
Alternately, this acknowledgment may appear in the software
itself, if
and wherever such third-party acknowledgments normally appear.
Moreover, to play on a safe side, they should not mention Cocoon:
4. The names "Apache Cocoon" and "Apache Software Foundation" must
not be
used to endorse or promote products derived from this software
without
prior written permission. For written permission, please contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
5. Products derived from this software may not be called "Apache",
nor may
"Apache" appear in their name, without prior written permission
of the
Apache Software Foundation.
PS Bea done same to Xerces and Xerces - see weblogic.apache.* packages.
Vadim
Sylvain
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