Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

On Dec 7, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Tom Hutchinson wrote: >> But a lot of cracking good ideas from libraries, and the broader field of >> Information Science are also not making their way into development in the >> way that they should. > > I think that this is an important

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Sarah Weissman wrote: > I agree that a lot of the focus for students in computer science is > centered around big industry/big salary type jobs, but I think even in the > “work that matters” sector, the software developer pay scale outpaces

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

> But a lot of cracking good ideas from libraries, and the broader field of > Information Science are also not making their way into development in the way > that they should. I think that this is an important point. As a community, we've learned the value of using outside software. However we

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

Thanks, Margaret. That is interesting to hear. I am definitely less familiar with how library and developer jobs work in a university setting. -Sarah On 12/7/17, 3:31 PM, "Code for Libraries on behalf of Margaret Vail" wrote: From my

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

From my experience in the Canadian Job market, this holds true at the beginning to middle of your career but the middle to end of your career the librarian pay scale is sufficiently larger and the benefits and pension do not even match what a developer would get at the University. At the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

I agree that a lot of the focus for students in computer science is centered around big industry/big salary type jobs, but I think even in the “work that matters” sector, the software developer pay scale outpaces the librarian pay scale for similar levels of experience. This may not always be

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

In terms of their ability to thrive, it really depends on the person. When I got moved into an Emerging Technologies Librarian position, I had virtually no CS or sysadmin background. But I was given space to learn and experiment and I went out and found the knowledge I needed. I worked on projects

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

Buddy, we have positions in my department that are developer / librarians; we tend to look for folks with some skills and lots of drive/aptitude, and then train them once they acquire the position. However these are clinical positions, and there are no T and P obligations even though we also

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

One potential pitfall to avoid is conflating specific programming job requirements with a having CS background. I can sling metadata with the best of them; however that doesn't make me a metadata librarian. Similarly, knowing PHP isn't the same as having a CS background. This strict adherence

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

Another hope is to get a person with developer skills who want to do work that matters/has positive impact. That's what got me into the work. Having once been very active in diversity efforts to recruit more students into computer science, it is established that there are misconceptions about

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

As one of these rare weirdos who is a software developer with an MLS, my opinion from looking at jobs in the field is that one major barrier to hiring developers into librarian positions is salary. I got my MLS after having worked as a developer for a while, and after I finished my degree, the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

Honestly, this is one of the reasons I decided last year to apply to online MLS programs despite having a PhD in computer science. While I love doing library technology work, I didn't want to be stuck doing just development or have to go the ITS manager route. Some positions do list "or

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

Interesting… I too have worked on web dev for years. Have been thinking of doing an MS; our university does not have an MLS. But to move into faculty here, I would need the MLS, and pay somewhere else, the MS doesn’t do me any good here. On 12/7/17, 2:27 PM, "Code for Libraries on behalf of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

Lisa, I would love to see that. We have wrestled with how to merge programmer requirements with faculty librarian expectations. Buddy Pennington Head of Library Systems & Technology (Librarian III) Miller Nichols Library University of Missouri--Kansas City -Original Message- From:

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

We actually have two positions called Librarian Developers, which are tenure track and require advanced degree (I think MLS) If interested I can find the job description and share. Lisa -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

While not a librarian position (faculty, MLS required), my job is a repurposed library technician position (staff, no MLS required). I have a background in IT, with a Comp Sci degree, and my internship was running the library's ILS. When I started working here full time as staff, I ended up

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

Is the reason they don't want to list as a software developer because the pay scale for that would be higher than a 'systems librarian'? On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Edward Iglesias wrote: > Sometimes you get lucky as I did when I got two developers as >

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

Sometimes you get lucky as I did when I got two developers as interns/student workers. If you need someone in that position I would say put it in the job requirements. There are MLS librarians with CS undergrads or developer experience. They are just few and far between. I've also seen Systems

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[CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

I have a question regarding staff development and I am hoping someone can provide some advice. I have two vacant librarian positions in my Library Systems department. I need to fill those vacancies with software/systems developers in order to move our initiatives forward. We have encountered