Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:50 AM Josh Welker wrote: > I agree with everything Kyle said except that it doesn't make you better at > other things. The sysadmin skills I learned in figuring out self-hosting > have transferred to many parts of my career inside and outside libraries > and have helped

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Risa Wolf
If I can sneak one more in there, I *personally* (not in relationship to my library) have enjoyed the flexibility of hosting options for Wordpress on https://www.dreamhost.com/wordpress/ . The thing I don't like about Wordpress.com is the difficulty of turning off some of the defaults, and the

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Andrew L Hickner
A final thank you to everyone who took the time to respond today. Your reviews will be very helpful to our team in selecting a provider. Have a great 4th, everyone! From: Andrew L Hickner Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 8:46 AM To: Code for Libraries Subject: recommendations for/advice re:

Re: [CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread EDWIN VINCENT SPERR
Sorry if I wasn't clear. My issue with our collective loosey-gooseyness is less about the discussion list itself (Eric seems to be doing a fine job here), but with...basically everything that we do. Take the example given just now of the Community Support Squad. I personally think such an

Re: [CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread Josh Welker
I am initially repelled by the idea of formalizing an organization and the bureaucracy it entails. But then I realize that's probably the only way to moderate the community without depending on a benevolent-dictator moderation model. Now I am just depressed that we live in such a world where those

Re: [CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread Francis Kayiwa
Heya Kate, You addressed Anne here, please accept my comments interleaved. On 7/3/19 2:02 PM, Kate Deibel wrote: > Yes, you, Francis, and Mark publicly committed to working to expand the role > of the CSS/CSVs at C4L19 via Mark's lightning talk. You three did drop the > ball in announcing the

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Josh Welker
I agree with everything Kyle said except that it doesn't make you better at other things. The sysadmin skills I learned in figuring out self-hosting have transferred to many parts of my career inside and outside libraries and have helped me land jobs several times. Of course that's a pretty

Re: [CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread EDWIN VINCENT SPERR
This seems like an excellent time to re-up a call for semi-formalizing Code4Lib as an organization. I know that folks really aren't thrilled with things like committees and quorums, but ultimately, groups that take collective decisions need a *mechanism* for doing so. Edwin V. Sperr, MLIS

Re: [CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread Mike Giarlo
Fellow code4libbers, I have two thoughts to share: 1. Thanks to Bobbi, Mark, Francis, and Anne for stepping up as CSV/CSS! Happy to see this group going forward. And also: 2. I want to echo Kate's well-articulated sentiments. While I'm glad we have a semi-active CSV/CSS group, I was

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 5:46 AM Andrew L Hickner wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > We are exploring moving the Wordpress website for the local chapter of our > library association to managed hosting. I'd appreciate any advice and/or > provider reviews you are willing to share, and would be happy to

Re: [CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread Kate Deibel
Yes, you, Francis, and Mark publicly committed to working to expand the role of the CSS/CSVs at C4L19 via Mark's lightning talk. You three did drop the ball in announcing the conference volunteers would be continuing their roles. They were vetted and approved for the conference only. People may

Re: [CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
As Anne notes in her message, she, Francis and I committed to this publicly at Code4lib 2019; for reference, here's the lightning talk I gave: Slides: http://bit.ly/c4l19-csv Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXYIjJrfqnI#t=49m43s thanks, Mark On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:35 AM Anne Slaughter

Re: [CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread Anne Slaughter
Seconding Francis' points, and adding that this "failure" does not rest on his shoulders. Mark, Francis, and I publicly committed in San Jose to working to expand the role of the CSS/CSVs to better support the community in situations like this. This work unfortunately hasn't been on any of our

Re: [CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread Josh Welker
I think updating the Code of Conduct is a great idea but shutting down the thread for an unspecified period of time is a not-so-great idea. Joshua Welker Library Systems and Discovery Coordinator James C. Kirkpatrick Library University of Central Missouri Warrensburg, MO 64093 JCKL 2260

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Lolis, John
There's a new player I recently came across: Convesio (https://convesio.com/). Docker-based hosted WordPress. I believe they're in beta right now. Btw, when advising to stay away from a hosting provider, it would be nice to know the reasons why. I've been with Bluehost for years, and my only

Re: [CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread Francis Kayiwa
Heya Kate my responses interleaved. For starters if there's any opacity I will take this as my fault/oversight. You, Anne, Mark and I spoke in San Jose about the transition to the CSSCSV group after the conference and promised to work on this once we were done. Unfortunately I've been dealing with

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Andrew L Hickner
Haha yes as a former professional webmaster with several years of experience (mostly Drupal - I'm new to WP), I am with you 100% Cary. As a survivor of Drupalgeddon, I will NEVER self-host again. The monthly fee associated with managed hosting is more than offset by not having to worry about

Re: [CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread Kate Deibel
Honestly, this is worrisome to me. First, who are the members of the Community Support Squad? I can find no mention of it anywhere on the website or the wiki. And it's disturbing that such a group let such a coincidence in lack of coverage occur. Yes, there were people listed for the 2019

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Andrew L Hickner
I had not, thanks for the suggestion. I'm surprised I haven’t seen it listed on any of the several review sites I've visited, and I'm wondering why that might be the case. Also, thank you to everybody else who's responded so far. -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries On Behalf

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Cary Gordon
While my take on AWS may differ — we are Consulting Partners — they do not provide Wordpress managed hosting services. I advise that organizations that are not prepared to actively manage a CMS, be it Wordpress, Drupal or anything else, to avoid self-hosting, whether it be local or on a virtual

[CODE4LIB] From the Community Support Squad wrt "Note [admiistratativia]"

2019-07-03 Thread Bobbi Fox
Apologies to the List for this late response from those of us who compose the Community Support Squad; through an unfortunate coincidence, we each had been off-line for most of the "[CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]" exchanges. The thread has raised some issues that should be covered in the

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Chuck McAndrew
AWS is super overwhelming, but you can just use lightsail and it will give you the equivalent of a digital ocean droplet and just ignore everything else. On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 3:58 PM Josh Welker wrote: > And I know AWS is the kingpin of cloud servers these days, but I try to > avoid it like

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Josh Welker
And I know AWS is the kingpin of cloud servers these days, but I try to avoid it like the plague. The AWS admin console is just a nightmare to navigate, and there are literally over a hundred different-named AWS services that all overlap, making it extremely hard to tell what you want to do.

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Josh Welker
If you are able to manage your own server with basic Linux sysadmin skills, I've had decent experiences with Digital Ocean, Linode, and Vultr, with Vultr currently being the cheapest option last I checked. If you want managed hosting, I have done freelance work for a bunch of clients who use

[CODE4LIB] Book

2019-07-03 Thread S B
One question that has come to me pretty frequently on the topic of sexual harassment in libraries is reading material. I suggest a good starting point is to read: Be Fierce by Gretchen Carlson Sent from my iPhone

Re: [CODE4LIB] recruiting advice

2019-07-03 Thread Turner, Steven
Hi Nate - responding OL. S Steven Turner, MLIS Manager, Web Technologies and Development, Assistant Professor University Libraries The University of Alabama 416 Gorgas Library | Box 870266, Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0266 office 205-348-1638 steven.j.tur...@ua.edu | http://www.lib.ua.edu/

Re: [CODE4LIB] recruiting advice

2019-07-03 Thread Nate Hill
Oh, good call Chuck- thanks! On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:25 AM Chuck McAndrew < chuck.mcand...@leblibrary.com> wrote: > Hi Nate, > Have you thought about tech jobs for good ( > https://www.techjobsforgood.com/)? > That might reach a new group that aren't currently working in libraries. > Regards >

Re: [CODE4LIB] recruiting advice

2019-07-03 Thread Nate Hill
Thanks, Steven! This is helpful. In the long term, I need to understand these market rates and get organized in such a fashion that I can be a competitive employer. I'm not running a library... I'm running a non-profit / consortium, and I think that if I want to offer top notch member services I

Re: [CODE4LIB] recruiting advice

2019-07-03 Thread Chuck McAndrew
Hi Nate, Have you thought about tech jobs for good (https://www.techjobsforgood.com/)? That might reach a new group that aren't currently working in libraries. Regards Chuck McAndrew IT Librarian Lebanon Public Libraries Lebanon, NH On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:08 PM Nate Hill wrote: > Hi all, > >

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Chuck McAndrew
Hi Andrew, Have you considered moving it to wordpress.com? I have been pretty pleased with them. You get to run your site, but they take care of updates etc. Makes running a wordpress site pretty easy and they are fairly inexpensive. Chuck McAndrew IT Librarian Lebanon Public Libraries Lebanon NH

Re: [CODE4LIB] recruiting advice

2019-07-03 Thread Turner, Steven
Hi Nate - we have good luck with our CS / EE / MIS student body, we have hired some very good developers over the years. Perhaps you could work with a few local colleges/universities to hire student workers, I would contact the chairs of those departments and explain your dilemma, and they

[CODE4LIB] Note

2019-07-03 Thread S B
Thanks to those who have provided useful and helpful feedback and those who have been supportive of raising awareness about sexual harassment in libraries. Whether you believe it or not (you are entitled to your opinion), sexual harassment in libraries, generally speaking, is a problem in

Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]

2019-07-03 Thread Kate Deibel
Not necessarily full approval by an IRB, but many people have noted that since this this is a sensitive topic concerning a vulnerable population it would be wise to use an ethical approach designed to protect participants. IRBs provide one such model to follow. Journalism has similar procedures

Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]

2019-07-03 Thread S B
Anyone has a right to discuss and have their opinions. Very true. But if there is misinformation or false info about sources in the story or me, I will say something. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Jim DelRosso wrote: > > If you promote your work in a discussion forum,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]

2019-07-03 Thread Sarah Green
A couple of people have mentioned that this project needs approval by an IRB. I do not believe this is true---correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Sunni would have needed to be more systematic in her investigation and have included a real research question, not just an intention to raise

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Mark Pernotto
++DigitalOcean On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 7:07 AM Chris Davis wrote: > In answer to your question about which hosting company to move your > WordPress site to, do not move to Bluehost. DigitalOcean is looking pretty > fair and square right now. > > FWIW, > > Christopher Davis > Systems & E-services

[CODE4LIB] recruiting advice

2019-07-03 Thread Nate Hill
Hi all, I'm looking for some advice on other places beyond libraryland where I might recruit a developer for the new repository service we are developing at the Metropolitan New York Library Council. About a week ago I posted a job for a Digital Repository Developer on the code4lib job board.

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Chris Davis
In answer to your question about which hosting company to move your WordPress site to, do not move to Bluehost. DigitalOcean is looking pretty fair and square right now. FWIW, Christopher Davis Systems & E-services Librarian Uintah County Library On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:58:57 +, Goben,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]

2019-07-03 Thread Kate Deibel
For the record, this is the excerpt from your article that is being referred to as transphobic: "I’ve had more training for what pronouns to call people and where our gender neutral bathrooms are than addressing sexual harassment,” So why is this quote a transphobic microaggression? It posits

Re: [CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Goben, Abigail H
I've been with LISHost (https://lishost.org/) for years. (I'm pretty sure Blake's on here-- hi Blake, good to see you in DC!) It's always been very excellent support and they are used to working with library associations. Much recommended. -- Abigail H. Goben, MLS Associate Professor

Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]

2019-07-03 Thread Jim DelRosso
If you promote your work in a discussion forum, you can't fault people for discussing it in said forum. Jim On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:22 AM S B < 0019b805e526-dmarc-requ...@lists.clir.org> wrote: > You are making an assumption and false statement. Only part one of the > series has been

Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]

2019-07-03 Thread Kate Deibel
What was false? What was an assumption? Katherine Deibel | PhD Inclusion & Accessibility Librarian Syracuse University Libraries T 315.443.7178 kndei...@syr.edu 222 Waverly Ave., Syracuse, NY 13244 Syracuse University -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries On Behalf Of S B Sent:

Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]

2019-07-03 Thread S B
You are making an assumption and false statement. Only part one of the series has been printed. There are more parts coming. Instead of asking me questions or having a courtesy of emailing me privately, choose to take the public route of criticizing. I hope positive discussion will happen

Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]

2019-07-03 Thread Jenn C
As also not official, let me say that the vagueness of identity, lack of research oversight and inclusion of transphobia in your "piece" makes every concern about this article legitimate. I do not apologize. On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:22 AM Craig Boman wrote: > Dear Sunni, > > On behalf of the

[CODE4LIB] Open Repositories Steering Committee accepting nominations for standing members

2019-07-03 Thread Simeon Warner
The Open Repositories Steering Committee (ORSC) is pleased to announce that we are opening nominations for standing members to join the OR Steering Committee. ORSC manages the annual Open Repositories conference (OR2019 just concluded in Hamburg last week) and consists of a maximum of 12

[CODE4LIB] Deadline approaching for nominations for the 2019 NDSA Innovation Awards

2019-07-03 Thread Abrams, Stephen
*** Cross-posted *** The nomination deadline for the 2019 Innovation Awards for the National Digital Stewardship Alliance (NDSA), next Friday, July 12, is fast approaching! If you have not already done so, please help to recognize innovation and excellence across the digital stewardship

[CODE4LIB] recommendations for/advice re: Wordpress managed hosting

2019-07-03 Thread Andrew L Hickner
Dear colleagues, We are exploring moving the Wordpress website for the local chapter of our library association to managed hosting. I'd appreciate any advice and/or provider reviews you are willing to share, and would be happy to summarize responses for the list if there is interest. Thanks

[CODE4LIB] Survey of Benchmarks in Metadata Quality - Closing

2019-07-03 Thread Chartier, Madison
Good morning, The Survey of Benchmarks in Metadata Quality will be closing on Wednesday, July 10th, 2019. If you have not yet filled out this survey and would like to, please do so by 5pm Mountain Time on July 10th. You may review the information regarding this survey and access the survey

Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]

2019-07-03 Thread Craig Boman
Dear Sunni, On behalf of the leaderless Code4lib community, for which I have no authority to represent, please allow us to apologize. In my short time participating in Code4lib it has been clear to me that Code4lib has been a place to talk about gender issues in library coding communities