Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-14 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Edward Summers wrote: > > > On Oct 14, 2017, at 7:09 AM, Stuart A. Yeates wrote: > > > > archive.org web harvests include at least some DNS details for the > content > > they harvest. I'm not sure how comprehensive it is and

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-14 Thread Edward Summers
> On Oct 14, 2017, at 7:09 AM, Stuart A. Yeates wrote: > > archive.org web harvests include at least some DNS details for the content > they harvest. I'm not sure how comprehensive it is and I'm pretty such that > there isn't a tool for easily exploring it. I was thinking

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-14 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On 14 October 2017 at 07:11, Edward Summers wrote: > What if we created an identifier system that organizations would pay an > annual feel to belong to? This identifier would be guaranteed to be > globally unique as long as the organization cared to maintain it. You could > use

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-13 Thread McDonald, Stephen
Kyle Banerjee asks: > I feel there is another issue at play, namely that librarians are sometimes > too quick to let others > dump their grunt work on them. For example, if it's important for a > department to track its own > output when they know better than anyone else who is involved and what

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-13 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Edward Summers wrote: > What if we created an identifier system that organizations would pay an > annual feel to belong to? This identifier would be guaranteed to be > globally unique as long as the organization cared to maintain it. You could >

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-13 Thread Edward Summers
What if we created an identifier system that organizations would pay an annual feel to belong to? This identifier would be guaranteed to be globally unique as long as the organization cared to maintain it. You could use this identifier with your web browser to find information about the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-12 Thread LeVan,Ralph
OCLC Research has tried to do this more than once for publishers. Do you see any publisher URIs out there? This is a really hard problem. Organizations change their identity more often and in many more ways than people do. Not that it shouldn't be done! Ralph -Original Message-

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-12 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
At a former research university employer, I talked to a new high-level research data officer type person, whose team had spent months just trying to make a list of all (or even most) of the academic/research organizational units currently existing, and their hiearchical relationships. Before even

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-12 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Stephen Hearn wrote: > > ... The complexity arises from the way organizations > constantly alter their internal and external organizational structures and > relationships. That's not something that a short retrospective horizon can > dispense

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-11 Thread Karen Coyle
+1 to Stephen. Organization is a horridly complex concept. Any work being done has to address the past and the future, because time keeps a goin' on. kc On 10/11/17 2:34 PM, Stephen Hearn wrote: > From the "OpenPIIR Product Scope and Principles," Final Version 2017-July > 17-- "The complexity of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-11 Thread Stephen Hearn
>From the "OpenPIIR Product Scope and Principles," Final Version 2017-July 17-- "The complexity of describing affiliation information for researchers increases dramatically when going back in time, while at the same time the potential benefits of linking research outputs and their contributors to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-11 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Based on the intro: > Organizations/institutions are a key part of the scholarly communications ecosystem. However, we lack an openly licensed, independently run organizational identifier standard to use for common affiliation and citation use cases. I would assume any organization at all that

Re: [CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-11 Thread Ed Summers
Hi John, > On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:54 AM, John Chodacki wrote: > > Are you interested in serving as a the start-up host organziation? Do you > have organization data you are willing to contribute? Do you have other > resources that could be helpful for the project? Do

[CODE4LIB] Persistent Identifiers for organizations/institutions.

2017-10-11 Thread John Chodacki
Organizations/institutions are a key part of the scholarly communications ecosystem. However, we lack an openly licensed, independently run organizational identifier standard to use for common affiliation and citation use cases. To define a solution to this problem, a group of interested