Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-08 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Cowing, Jared wrote: > ... > I've noticed that the fields of Data Engineering & Data Architecture are > really coming into their own recently, following the big Data Science > explosion. I've even seen library positions using these

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-08 Thread Cowing, Jared
This has been a truly fascinating discussion to follow. My personal opinion is that many Systems Librarians in the near future will need to have some degree of developer skills to do their jobs most successfully (if that isn't already true), but many libraries might not recognize this when they

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Dec 7, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Tom Hutchinson wrote: >> But a lot of cracking good ideas from libraries, and the broader field of >> Information Science are also not making their way into development in the >> way that they should. > > I think that this is an important

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Sarah Weissman wrote: > I agree that a lot of the focus for students in computer science is > centered around big industry/big salary type jobs, but I think even in the > “work that matters” sector, the software developer pay scale outpaces

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Tom Hutchinson
> But a lot of cracking good ideas from libraries, and the broader field of > Information Science are also not making their way into development in the way > that they should. I think that this is an important point. As a community, we've learned the value of using outside software. However we

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Sarah Weissman
B@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Sarah Weissman Sent: December 7, 2017 4:24 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer I agree that a lot of the focus for students in computer science is centered around big industry/big salary type jobs,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Margaret Vail
, 2017 4:24 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer I agree that a lot of the focus for students in computer science is centered around big industry/big salary type jobs, but I think even in the “work that matters” sector, the software

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Sarah Weissman
- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Sarah Weissman Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 2:49 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer As one of these rare weirdos who is a software devel

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Jason Bengtson
In terms of their ability to thrive, it really depends on the person. When I got moved into an Emerging Technologies Librarian position, I had virtually no CS or sysadmin background. But I was given space to learn and experiment and I went out and found the knowledge I needed. I worked on projects

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Turner, Steven
r Nichols Library University of Missouri--Kansas City -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Haitz, Lisa (haitzlm) Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 1:24 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG<mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG> Subject: Re: [CO

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Tom Hutchinson
ibraries > T 315.443.7178 > kndei...@syr.edu > 222 Waverly Ave., Syracuse, NY 13244 > Syracuse University > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Haitz, > Lisa (haitzlm) > Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 2:3

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Kate Deibel
cuse University -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Sarah Weissman Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 2:49 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer As one of these rare weirdos who is a soft

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Sarah Weissman
As one of these rare weirdos who is a software developer with an MLS, my opinion from looking at jobs in the field is that one major barrier to hiring developers into librarian positions is salary. I got my MLS after having worked as a developer for a while, and after I finished my degree, the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Kate Deibel
Lisa (haitzlm) Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 2:33 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer Interesting… I too have worked on web dev for years. Have been thinking of doing an MS; our university does not have an MLS. But to move into faculty

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Haitz, Lisa (haitzlm)
Interesting… I too have worked on web dev for years. Have been thinking of doing an MS; our university does not have an MLS. But to move into faculty here, I would need the MLS, and pay somewhere else, the MS doesn’t do me any good here. On 12/7/17, 2:27 PM, "Code for Libraries on behalf of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Pennington, Buddy D.
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Haitz, Lisa (haitzlm) Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 1:24 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer We actually have two positions called Librarian Developers, which are te

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Haitz, Lisa (haitzlm)
Of Samson, Bob Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 7:10 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG Subject: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer I have a question regarding staff development and I am hoping someone can provide some advice. I have two vacant librarian positions in my

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Foster, Meredith
, Bob Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 7:10 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG Subject: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer I have a question regarding staff development and I am hoping someone can provide some advice. I have two vacant librarian positions in my Library Systems

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Is the reason they don't want to list as a software developer because the pay scale for that would be higher than a 'systems librarian'? On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Edward Iglesias wrote: > Sometimes you get lucky as I did when I got two developers as >

Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Edward Iglesias
Sometimes you get lucky as I did when I got two developers as interns/student workers. If you need someone in that position I would say put it in the job requirements. There are MLS librarians with CS undergrads or developer experience. They are just few and far between. I've also seen Systems

[CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian / software developer

2017-12-07 Thread Samson, Bob
I have a question regarding staff development and I am hoping someone can provide some advice. I have two vacant librarian positions in my Library Systems department. I need to fill those vacancies with software/systems developers in order to move our initiatives forward. We have encountered