Re: [CODE4LIB] Online suggestion form or box

[Tom Keays]

If you have LibGuides CMS, you could build a suggestion form using
LibWizard. You use the LibWizard interface to collect, read, and make
simple analyses of the submissions. You can optionally have it send a
notification to specified list email addresses. It has some optional
customization -- e.g., stylesheets, custom header.

We're not using it at the moment for this purpose, but it could work quite
well.

Tom

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Turner, Steven 
wrote:

> We use the KACE ticketing system, with forms from the website delivering
> input directly into KACE, which creates a ticket - while intended for web
> site issues and requests, it has been used to provide feedback and comments
> about the website.
>
> S
> Steven Turner, MLIS
> Manager, Web Technologies and Development, Assistant Professor
> University Libraries
> The University of Alabama
> 416 Gorgas Library | Box 870266, Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0266
> office 205-348-1638
> steven.j.turner@ua.edu |
> http://www.lib.ua.edu/
>
> [cid:image001.gif@01D21575.36CE1C80]
> 
> 
>
> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Stuart A. Yeates > wrote:
>
> We're using https://www.zendesk.com/ for end user feedback. It's great.
>
> cheers
> stuart
>
> --
> ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
>
> On 25 October 2017 at 09:04, Jason Bengtson  mailto:j.bengtson...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I've used a variety of them in the past for projects . . . often through
> google forms. I haven't done it recently.
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Jason Bengtson*
>
>
> *http://www.jasonbengtson.com/ *
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Beth Goodwin  mailto:goodwin.beth...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> Outside of the Springshare products, is anyone using a type of anonymous
> online suggestion/feedback form? A digital question and answer board?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Beth Goodwin
> Trinity International University
>
>
>
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Online suggestion form or box

[Turner, Steven]

We use the KACE ticketing system, with forms from the website delivering input 
directly into KACE, which creates a ticket - while intended for web site issues 
and requests, it has been used to provide feedback and comments about the 
website.

S
Steven Turner, MLIS
Manager, Web Technologies and Development, Assistant Professor
University Libraries
The University of Alabama
416 Gorgas Library | Box 870266, Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0266
office 205-348-1638
steven.j.turner@ua.edu | http://www.lib.ua.edu/

[cid:image001.gif@01D21575.36CE1C80]



On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Stuart A. Yeates 
> wrote:

We're using https://www.zendesk.com/ for end user feedback. It's great.

cheers
stuart

--
...let us be heard from red core to black sky

On 25 October 2017 at 09:04, Jason Bengtson 
> wrote:

I've used a variety of them in the past for projects . . . often through
google forms. I haven't done it recently.

Best regards,

*Jason Bengtson*


*http://www.jasonbengtson.com/ *

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Beth Goodwin 
>
wrote:

Good Afternoon,

Outside of the Springshare products, is anyone using a type of anonymous
online suggestion/feedback form? A digital question and answer board?

Thanks!

Beth Goodwin
Trinity International University

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open

[Shearer, Timothy]

A potential issue with that first method is that I think a lot of folks lurk, 
care, and maybe even attend the conference...but for a variety of reasons may 
not post to the list.

Early in my code4lib days I was intimidated by what I perceived to be the level 
of experience and expertise from the more vocal/visible members of the 
community and doubted the potential worth of adding my voice.   There can be 
lots of reasons for radio silence including impostor's syndrome, actual job 
function (as compared to idealized job fit), current ability to engage (life 
and work get in the way), etc.  And so I'm not sure that contributing to the 
list is an ideal proxy for "active" for this community.  

Having said this, I'm not coming up with any great alternatives.

If this particular attempt doesn't seem to end in a clear answer, I'd be 
comfortable with that subset of the community that happens to attend the 
conference in 2018 making the decision as a collective.  I think it would end 
up being representative enough. And there'd be the potential for nearly full 
engagement (for the attendees) with the voting process if it were a part of the 
actual event. 

I really appreciated the reminder, though, as I'd meant to vote but it had 
fallen off my radar.   

As a past conference organizer, I'd recommend giving extra emphasis in your 
individual deliberations to the voices of those who have struggled with the 
realities of being "a community" with no formal mechanism for dealing with the 
funds issue.

Others have done so, but I'd like to pile on with my thanks to those who have 
been doing the heavy lifting on identifying the alternatives, investigating 
them, and creating this tool.  It's a lot of work, but it's important work.  
Thank you!

Tim 
[now wearing his imaginary, virtual "I voted" sticker]




On 10/24/17, 5:01 PM, "Code for Libraries on behalf of Butler, Paul Raymond" 
 wrote:

One method would be to count all unique emails that posted to the listserv 
in say the last 3 years as a baseline for "Active membership" and require say 
51% of that number to be consider a quorum for this vote. Another baseline 
would be the average conference attendance over a period of time. So many ways 
to slice and dice this, if it wasn't established prior to the vote. 

Cheers, Paul
-
Paul R Butler, mlis
Library Technologies Support Analyst
Library Information Technology Services (L.I.T.S)
Ball State University
Muncie, IN  47306
P: 765.285.8032
E: prbut...@bsu.edu

The University Libraries provide services that support student pursuits for 
academic success and faculty endeavors for knowledge creation and classroom 
instruction. 


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of 
Coral Sheldon-Hess
Sent: October 24, 2017 4:25 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

That isn't a dumb question, Jason; no, we have not set up a minimum 
percentage of voters, in part because “membership” in Code4Lib is such an 
amorphous thing. We definitely do not have 3500 active members, no matter what 
our listserv subscription looks like. But we do get close to 500 attendees at 
conferences, not all of whom are the same from year to year, so I will be 
disappointed in us if we don’t get at LEAST that many votes.

Speaking purely practically, I hope that we will see enough votes come in 
that nobody tries to argue for invalidating the election results because of it. 
I will be furious if all of this work was for naught.

Please vote.

Best,
Coral

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Jason Bengtson 
wrote:

> I apologize if this is a dumb question, or something I've just missed 
> or forgotten, but is there a minimum percentage vote tally required to 
> certify a result?
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Jason Bengtson*
>
>
> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.j
> asonbengtson.com%2F=02%7C01%7Cprbutler%40BSU.EDU%7C13ba8a3039f84d
> 676f8508d51b1d66fe%7C6fff909f07dc40da9e30fd7549c0f494%7C0%7C0%7C636444
> 735451074274=HrecQio34Qyx7D3SAMf7BQriz%2BAOudSoKvoE8qPISaw%3D
> served=0 
>  asonbengtson.com%2F=02%7C01%7Cprbutler%40BSU.EDU%7C13ba8a3039f84d
> 676f8508d51b1d66fe%7C6fff909f07dc40da9e30fd7549c0f494%7C0%7C0%7C636444
> 735451074274=HrecQio34Qyx7D3SAMf7BQriz%2BAOudSoKvoE8qPISaw%3D
> served=0>*
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Kyle Banerjee 
> 
> wrote:
>
> > I would be leery of interpreting abstention in that way. Similar 
> > logic
> has
> > 

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Carol Bean]

Or, you could post to the web site, the list, all the channels, saying
"raise your hand if you consider yourself part of the code4lib community,"
and count hands.

Sheesh, people.  Coral's right:  "membership" in this group is amorphous.
It's by self-identification, and can (and does!) change constantly.

Carol

Carol Bean
beanwo...@gmail.com

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Butler, Paul Raymond 
wrote:

> One method would be to count all unique emails that posted to the listserv
> in say the last 3 years as a baseline for "Active membership" and require
> say 51% of that number to be consider a quorum for this vote. Another
> baseline would be the average conference attendance over a period of time.
> So many ways to slice and dice this, if it wasn't established prior to the
> vote.
>
> Cheers, Paul
> -
> Paul R Butler, mlis
> Library Technologies Support Analyst
> Library Information Technology Services (L.I.T.S)
> Ball State University
> Muncie, IN  47306
> P: 765.285.8032
> E: prbut...@bsu.edu
>
> The University Libraries provide services that support student pursuits
> for academic success and faculty endeavors for knowledge creation and
> classroom instruction.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Coral Sheldon-Hess
> Sent: October 24, 2017 4:25 PM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]
>
> That isn't a dumb question, Jason; no, we have not set up a minimum
> percentage of voters, in part because “membership” in Code4Lib is such an
> amorphous thing. We definitely do not have 3500 active members, no matter
> what our listserv subscription looks like. But we do get close to 500
> attendees at conferences, not all of whom are the same from year to year,
> so I will be disappointed in us if we don’t get at LEAST that many votes.
>
> Speaking purely practically, I hope that we will see enough votes come in
> that nobody tries to argue for invalidating the election results because of
> it. I will be furious if all of this work was for naught.
>
> Please vote.
>
> Best,
> Coral
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Jason Bengtson 
> wrote:
>
> > I apologize if this is a dumb question, or something I've just missed
> > or forgotten, but is there a minimum percentage vote tally required to
> > certify a result?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > *Jason Bengtson*
> >
> >
> > *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.j
> > asonbengtson.com%2F=02%7C01%7Cprbutler%40BSU.EDU%7C13ba8a3039f84d
> > 676f8508d51b1d66fe%7C6fff909f07dc40da9e30fd7549c0f494%7C0%7C0%7C636444
> > 735451074274=HrecQio34Qyx7D3SAMf7BQriz%2BAOudSoKvoE8qPISaw%3D
> > served=0
> >  > asonbengtson.com%2F=02%7C01%7Cprbutler%40BSU.EDU%7C13ba8a3039f84d
> > 676f8508d51b1d66fe%7C6fff909f07dc40da9e30fd7549c0f494%7C0%7C0%7C636444
> > 735451074274=HrecQio34Qyx7D3SAMf7BQriz%2BAOudSoKvoE8qPISaw%3D
> > served=0>*
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Kyle Banerjee
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would be leery of interpreting abstention in that way. Similar
> > > logic
> > has
> > > been employed in some states to prevent referendums involving tax
> > increases
> > > to be passed.
> > >
> > > My sense is that the low vote total reflects that people understand
> > > this
> > is
> > > a serious issue requiring an informed decision. Those who don't have
> > > the time or background to fully digest what each option means might
> > > well hang back rather than unintentionally indicate a preference
> > > that could lead to serious problems.
> > >
> > > In any case, people who feel the current system is fine and don't
> > > want to pursue alternatives can affirmatively choose that we keep
> > > things as they are.
> > >
> > > kyle
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Eric Lease Morgan 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes
> > > > >> cast,
> > > so
> > > > >> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of
> > > > >> this
> > > > than
> > > > >> have voted, yet.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%
> > > > >> 2Fwww.surveymonkey.com%2Fr%2FK5MWGNC=02%7C01%7Cprbutler%40
> > > > >> BSU.EDU%7C13ba8a3039f84d676f8508d51b1d66fe%7C6fff909f07dc40da9e
> > > > >> 30fd7549c0f494%7C0%7C0%7C636444735451074274=qbOGUsFut9JQm
> > > > >> U%2BctFpDNqPqBpnParSt93vvGE12C4M%3D=0
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community --
> > > > > will
> > > > get enough input to make a sound decision.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in 

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Butler, Paul Raymond]

One method would be to count all unique emails that posted to the listserv in 
say the last 3 years as a baseline for "Active membership" and require say 51% 
of that number to be consider a quorum for this vote. Another baseline would be 
the average conference attendance over a period of time. So many ways to slice 
and dice this, if it wasn't established prior to the vote. 

Cheers, Paul
-
Paul R Butler, mlis
Library Technologies Support Analyst
Library Information Technology Services (L.I.T.S)
Ball State University
Muncie, IN  47306
P: 765.285.8032
E: prbut...@bsu.edu

The University Libraries provide services that support student pursuits for 
academic success and faculty endeavors for knowledge creation and classroom 
instruction. 


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Coral 
Sheldon-Hess
Sent: October 24, 2017 4:25 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

That isn't a dumb question, Jason; no, we have not set up a minimum percentage 
of voters, in part because “membership” in Code4Lib is such an amorphous thing. 
We definitely do not have 3500 active members, no matter what our listserv 
subscription looks like. But we do get close to 500 attendees at conferences, 
not all of whom are the same from year to year, so I will be disappointed in us 
if we don’t get at LEAST that many votes.

Speaking purely practically, I hope that we will see enough votes come in that 
nobody tries to argue for invalidating the election results because of it. I 
will be furious if all of this work was for naught.

Please vote.

Best,
Coral

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Jason Bengtson 
wrote:

> I apologize if this is a dumb question, or something I've just missed 
> or forgotten, but is there a minimum percentage vote tally required to 
> certify a result?
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Jason Bengtson*
>
>
> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.j
> asonbengtson.com%2F=02%7C01%7Cprbutler%40BSU.EDU%7C13ba8a3039f84d
> 676f8508d51b1d66fe%7C6fff909f07dc40da9e30fd7549c0f494%7C0%7C0%7C636444
> 735451074274=HrecQio34Qyx7D3SAMf7BQriz%2BAOudSoKvoE8qPISaw%3D
> served=0 
>  asonbengtson.com%2F=02%7C01%7Cprbutler%40BSU.EDU%7C13ba8a3039f84d
> 676f8508d51b1d66fe%7C6fff909f07dc40da9e30fd7549c0f494%7C0%7C0%7C636444
> 735451074274=HrecQio34Qyx7D3SAMf7BQriz%2BAOudSoKvoE8qPISaw%3D
> served=0>*
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Kyle Banerjee 
> 
> wrote:
>
> > I would be leery of interpreting abstention in that way. Similar 
> > logic
> has
> > been employed in some states to prevent referendums involving tax
> increases
> > to be passed.
> >
> > My sense is that the low vote total reflects that people understand 
> > this
> is
> > a serious issue requiring an informed decision. Those who don't have 
> > the time or background to fully digest what each option means might 
> > well hang back rather than unintentionally indicate a preference 
> > that could lead to serious problems.
> >
> > In any case, people who feel the current system is fine and don't 
> > want to pursue alternatives can affirmatively choose that we keep 
> > things as they are.
> >
> > kyle
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Eric Lease Morgan 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes 
> > > >> cast,
> > so
> > > >> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of 
> > > >> this
> > > than
> > > >> have voted, yet.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%
> > > >> 2Fwww.surveymonkey.com%2Fr%2FK5MWGNC=02%7C01%7Cprbutler%40
> > > >> BSU.EDU%7C13ba8a3039f84d676f8508d51b1d66fe%7C6fff909f07dc40da9e
> > > >> 30fd7549c0f494%7C0%7C0%7C636444735451074274=qbOGUsFut9JQm
> > > >> U%2BctFpDNqPqBpnParSt93vvGE12C4M%3D=0
> > > >
> > > > Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community -- 
> > > > will
> > > get enough input to make a sound decision.
> > >
> > >
> > > Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in the vote:
> > >
> > >   1. Do nothing
> > >   2. Incorporate
> > >   3. Partner with fiscal agent
> > >
> > > There are approximately 3,500 people in our community. Each 
> > > non-vote
> > could
> > > be counted as a vote for #1. If so, then we are well on track for 
> > > doing nothing. 8-D  —Earache
> > >
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Online suggestion form or box

[Stuart A. Yeates]

We're using https://www.zendesk.com/ for end user feedback. It's great.

cheers
stuart

--
...let us be heard from red core to black sky

On 25 October 2017 at 09:04, Jason Bengtson  wrote:

> I've used a variety of them in the past for projects . . . often through
> google forms. I haven't done it recently.
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Jason Bengtson*
>
>
> *http://www.jasonbengtson.com/ *
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Beth Goodwin 
> wrote:
>
> > Good Afternoon,
> >
> > Outside of the Springshare products, is anyone using a type of anonymous
> > online suggestion/feedback form? A digital question and answer board?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Beth Goodwin
> > Trinity International University
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Jason Bengtson]

Thank you very much for answering my question. I'm with you; I agree that
this is a very important vote, and I hope that everyone participates.

Best regards,

*Jason Bengtson*


*http://www.jasonbengtson.com/ *

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess 
wrote:

> That isn't a dumb question, Jason; no, we have not set up a minimum
> percentage of voters, in part because “membership” in Code4Lib is such an
> amorphous thing. We definitely do not have 3500 active members, no matter
> what our listserv subscription looks like. But we do get close to 500
> attendees at conferences, not all of whom are the same from year to year,
> so I will be disappointed in us if we don’t get at LEAST that many votes.
>
> Speaking purely practically, I hope that we will see enough votes come in
> that nobody tries to argue for invalidating the election results because of
> it. I will be furious if all of this work was for naught.
>
> Please vote.
>
> Best,
> Coral
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Jason Bengtson 
> wrote:
>
> > I apologize if this is a dumb question, or something I've just missed or
> > forgotten, but is there a minimum percentage vote tally required to
> certify
> > a result?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > *Jason Bengtson*
> >
> >
> > *http://www.jasonbengtson.com/ *
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Kyle Banerjee 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would be leery of interpreting abstention in that way. Similar logic
> > has
> > > been employed in some states to prevent referendums involving tax
> > increases
> > > to be passed.
> > >
> > > My sense is that the low vote total reflects that people understand
> this
> > is
> > > a serious issue requiring an informed decision. Those who don't have
> the
> > > time or background to fully digest what each option means might well
> hang
> > > back rather than unintentionally indicate a preference that could lead
> to
> > > serious problems.
> > >
> > > In any case, people who feel the current system is fine and don't want
> to
> > > pursue alternatives can affirmatively choose that we keep things as
> they
> > > are.
> > >
> > > kyle
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Eric Lease Morgan 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes
> cast,
> > > so
> > > > >> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of
> this
> > > > than
> > > > >> have voted, yet.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community --
> will
> > > > get enough input to make a sound decision.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in the
> vote:
> > > >
> > > >   1. Do nothing
> > > >   2. Incorporate
> > > >   3. Partner with fiscal agent
> > > >
> > > > There are approximately 3,500 people in our community. Each non-vote
> > > could
> > > > be counted as a vote for #1. If so, then we are well on track for
> doing
> > > > nothing. 8-D  —Earache
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Coral Sheldon-Hess]

That isn't a dumb question, Jason; no, we have not set up a minimum
percentage of voters, in part because “membership” in Code4Lib is such an
amorphous thing. We definitely do not have 3500 active members, no matter
what our listserv subscription looks like. But we do get close to 500
attendees at conferences, not all of whom are the same from year to year,
so I will be disappointed in us if we don’t get at LEAST that many votes.

Speaking purely practically, I hope that we will see enough votes come in
that nobody tries to argue for invalidating the election results because of
it. I will be furious if all of this work was for naught.

Please vote.

Best,
Coral

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Jason Bengtson 
wrote:

> I apologize if this is a dumb question, or something I've just missed or
> forgotten, but is there a minimum percentage vote tally required to certify
> a result?
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Jason Bengtson*
>
>
> *http://www.jasonbengtson.com/ *
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Kyle Banerjee 
> wrote:
>
> > I would be leery of interpreting abstention in that way. Similar logic
> has
> > been employed in some states to prevent referendums involving tax
> increases
> > to be passed.
> >
> > My sense is that the low vote total reflects that people understand this
> is
> > a serious issue requiring an informed decision. Those who don't have the
> > time or background to fully digest what each option means might well hang
> > back rather than unintentionally indicate a preference that could lead to
> > serious problems.
> >
> > In any case, people who feel the current system is fine and don't want to
> > pursue alternatives can affirmatively choose that we keep things as they
> > are.
> >
> > kyle
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Eric Lease Morgan 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes cast,
> > so
> > > >> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of this
> > > than
> > > >> have voted, yet.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC
> > > >
> > > > Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community -- will
> > > get enough input to make a sound decision.
> > >
> > >
> > > Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in the vote:
> > >
> > >   1. Do nothing
> > >   2. Incorporate
> > >   3. Partner with fiscal agent
> > >
> > > There are approximately 3,500 people in our community. Each non-vote
> > could
> > > be counted as a vote for #1. If so, then we are well on track for doing
> > > nothing. 8-D  —Earache
> > >
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Ruth Frasur]

Whoa.  I rarely even read these threads or, if I do, respond just because
of time issues.  But Jason just asked a question

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Jason Bengtson 
wrote:

> I asked a question. Calm down. It was not a joke. I'm sorry it provoked
> such an unfortunately "animated" response.
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Jason Bengtson*
>
>
> *http://www.jasonbengtson.com/ *
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Jonathan Rochkind 
> wrote:
>
> > Do YOU even think that's a good idea Eric, or was it just a joke?  If it
> > was just a joke, let's not, this is already messy enough as it is.
> >
> > If it was serious, and you want anyone to take it seriously (personally I
> > don't think it ought to be), you should make some argument for why it
> would
> > make sense to do so.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Jonathan Rochkind 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That is a terrible idea, why would you do that? How do you know how
> many
> > > people are "in the community"? How do you know how many of them are
> still
> > > in the community, pay any attention to the listserv instead of just
> > > filtering it to a folder and never reading it, aren't out sick, etc.
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Eric Lease Morgan 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes
> cast,
> > so
> > >> >> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of
> this
> > >> than
> > >> >> have voted, yet.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC
> > >> >
> > >> > Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community --
> will
> > >> get enough input to make a sound decision.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in the vote:
> > >>
> > >>   1. Do nothing
> > >>   2. Incorporate
> > >>   3. Partner with fiscal agent
> > >>
> > >> There are approximately 3,500 people in our community. Each non-vote
> > >> could be counted as a vote for #1. If so, then we are well on track
> for
> > >> doing nothing. 8-D  —Earache
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Jason Bengtson]

I asked a question. Calm down. It was not a joke. I'm sorry it provoked
such an unfortunately "animated" response.

Best regards,

*Jason Bengtson*


*http://www.jasonbengtson.com/ *

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Jonathan Rochkind 
wrote:

> Do YOU even think that's a good idea Eric, or was it just a joke?  If it
> was just a joke, let's not, this is already messy enough as it is.
>
> If it was serious, and you want anyone to take it seriously (personally I
> don't think it ought to be), you should make some argument for why it would
> make sense to do so.
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Jonathan Rochkind 
> wrote:
>
> > That is a terrible idea, why would you do that? How do you know how many
> > people are "in the community"? How do you know how many of them are still
> > in the community, pay any attention to the listserv instead of just
> > filtering it to a folder and never reading it, aren't out sick, etc.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Eric Lease Morgan 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes cast,
> so
> >> >> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of this
> >> than
> >> >> have voted, yet.
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC
> >> >
> >> > Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community -- will
> >> get enough input to make a sound decision.
> >>
> >>
> >> Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in the vote:
> >>
> >>   1. Do nothing
> >>   2. Incorporate
> >>   3. Partner with fiscal agent
> >>
> >> There are approximately 3,500 people in our community. Each non-vote
> >> could be counted as a vote for #1. If so, then we are well on track for
> >> doing nothing. 8-D  —Earache
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Jonathan Rochkind]

Do YOU even think that's a good idea Eric, or was it just a joke?  If it
was just a joke, let's not, this is already messy enough as it is.

If it was serious, and you want anyone to take it seriously (personally I
don't think it ought to be), you should make some argument for why it would
make sense to do so.

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Jonathan Rochkind 
wrote:

> That is a terrible idea, why would you do that? How do you know how many
> people are "in the community"? How do you know how many of them are still
> in the community, pay any attention to the listserv instead of just
> filtering it to a folder and never reading it, aren't out sick, etc.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
>
>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
>>
>> >> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes cast, so
>> >> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of this
>> than
>> >> have voted, yet.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC
>> >
>> > Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community -- will
>> get enough input to make a sound decision.
>>
>>
>> Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in the vote:
>>
>>   1. Do nothing
>>   2. Incorporate
>>   3. Partner with fiscal agent
>>
>> There are approximately 3,500 people in our community. Each non-vote
>> could be counted as a vote for #1. If so, then we are well on track for
>> doing nothing. 8-D  —Earache
>>
>
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Jonathan Rochkind]

No. There is also no such thing as certifying a result, there is nobody in
particular bound to do anything as a result of this poll regardless.

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Jason Bengtson 
wrote:

> I apologize if this is a dumb question, or something I've just missed or
> forgotten, but is there a minimum percentage vote tally required to certify
> a result?
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Jason Bengtson*
>
>
> *http://www.jasonbengtson.com/ *
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Kyle Banerjee 
> wrote:
>
> > I would be leery of interpreting abstention in that way. Similar logic
> has
> > been employed in some states to prevent referendums involving tax
> increases
> > to be passed.
> >
> > My sense is that the low vote total reflects that people understand this
> is
> > a serious issue requiring an informed decision. Those who don't have the
> > time or background to fully digest what each option means might well hang
> > back rather than unintentionally indicate a preference that could lead to
> > serious problems.
> >
> > In any case, people who feel the current system is fine and don't want to
> > pursue alternatives can affirmatively choose that we keep things as they
> > are.
> >
> > kyle
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Eric Lease Morgan 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes cast,
> > so
> > > >> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of this
> > > than
> > > >> have voted, yet.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC
> > > >
> > > > Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community -- will
> > > get enough input to make a sound decision.
> > >
> > >
> > > Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in the vote:
> > >
> > >   1. Do nothing
> > >   2. Incorporate
> > >   3. Partner with fiscal agent
> > >
> > > There are approximately 3,500 people in our community. Each non-vote
> > could
> > > be counted as a vote for #1. If so, then we are well on track for doing
> > > nothing. 8-D  —Earache
> > >
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Jonathan Rochkind]

That is a terrible idea, why would you do that? How do you know how many
people are "in the community"? How do you know how many of them are still
in the community, pay any attention to the listserv instead of just
filtering it to a folder and never reading it, aren't out sick, etc.

Jonathan

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
>
> >> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes cast, so
> >> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of this
> than
> >> have voted, yet.
> >>
> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC
> >
> > Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community -- will
> get enough input to make a sound decision.
>
>
> Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in the vote:
>
>   1. Do nothing
>   2. Incorporate
>   3. Partner with fiscal agent
>
> There are approximately 3,500 people in our community. Each non-vote could
> be counted as a vote for #1. If so, then we are well on track for doing
> nothing. 8-D  —Earache
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Online suggestion form or box

[Jason Bengtson]

I've used a variety of them in the past for projects . . . often through
google forms. I haven't done it recently.

Best regards,

*Jason Bengtson*


*http://www.jasonbengtson.com/ *

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Beth Goodwin 
wrote:

> Good Afternoon,
>
> Outside of the Springshare products, is anyone using a type of anonymous
> online suggestion/feedback form? A digital question and answer board?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Beth Goodwin
> Trinity International University
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Jason Bengtson]

I apologize if this is a dumb question, or something I've just missed or
forgotten, but is there a minimum percentage vote tally required to certify
a result?

Best regards,

*Jason Bengtson*


*http://www.jasonbengtson.com/ *

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Kyle Banerjee 
wrote:

> I would be leery of interpreting abstention in that way. Similar logic has
> been employed in some states to prevent referendums involving tax increases
> to be passed.
>
> My sense is that the low vote total reflects that people understand this is
> a serious issue requiring an informed decision. Those who don't have the
> time or background to fully digest what each option means might well hang
> back rather than unintentionally indicate a preference that could lead to
> serious problems.
>
> In any case, people who feel the current system is fine and don't want to
> pursue alternatives can affirmatively choose that we keep things as they
> are.
>
> kyle
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Eric Lease Morgan 
> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
> >
> > >> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes cast,
> so
> > >> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of this
> > than
> > >> have voted, yet.
> > >>
> > >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC
> > >
> > > Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community -- will
> > get enough input to make a sound decision.
> >
> >
> > Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in the vote:
> >
> >   1. Do nothing
> >   2. Incorporate
> >   3. Partner with fiscal agent
> >
> > There are approximately 3,500 people in our community. Each non-vote
> could
> > be counted as a vote for #1. If so, then we are well on track for doing
> > nothing. 8-D  —Earache
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Kyle Banerjee]

I would be leery of interpreting abstention in that way. Similar logic has
been employed in some states to prevent referendums involving tax increases
to be passed.

My sense is that the low vote total reflects that people understand this is
a serious issue requiring an informed decision. Those who don't have the
time or background to fully digest what each option means might well hang
back rather than unintentionally indicate a preference that could lead to
serious problems.

In any case, people who feel the current system is fine and don't want to
pursue alternatives can affirmatively choose that we keep things as they
are.

kyle



On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
>
> >> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes cast, so
> >> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of this
> than
> >> have voted, yet.
> >>
> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC
> >
> > Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community -- will
> get enough input to make a sound decision.
>
>
> Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in the vote:
>
>   1. Do nothing
>   2. Incorporate
>   3. Partner with fiscal agent
>
> There are approximately 3,500 people in our community. Each non-vote could
> be counted as a vote for #1. If so, then we are well on track for doing
> nothing. 8-D  —Earache
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open [radical idea]

[Eric Lease Morgan]

On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:

>> Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes cast, so
>> far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of this than
>> have voted, yet.
>> 
>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC
> 
> Yes, please vote. Otherwise, I don’t think we — the community -- will get 
> enough input to make a sound decision.


Here’s a radical idea. There are essentially three choice in the vote:

  1. Do nothing
  2. Incorporate
  3. Partner with fiscal agent

There are approximately 3,500 people in our community. Each non-vote could be 
counted as a vote for #1. If so, then we are well on track for doing nothing. 
8-D  —Earache 

[CODE4LIB] Job Opportunity: Yale University Library seeks Electronic Resources Access & Discovery Librarian

[Douglas, Kelly]

Electronic Resources Access & Discovery Librarian
Yale University Library
New Haven, CT
Requisition:  46246BR
http://bit.ly/2ynFEKt

Yale University offers exciting opportunities for achievement and growth in New 
Haven, Connecticut.  Conveniently located between Boston and New York, New 
Haven is the creative capital of Connecticut with cultural resources that 
include two major art museums, a critically-acclaimed repertory theater, 
state-of-the-art concert hall, and world-renowned schools of Architecture, Art, 
Drama, and Music.

Position Focus: Under the direction of the Director of E-Resources & Serials 
Management (ERSM), the Electronic Resources Access & Discovery Librarian 
focuses on establishing and maintaining online access to content licensed by 
Yale University Library (YUL). This position supervises a team of staff 
responsible for key discovery and cataloging workflows. Within a changing and 
flexible environment, s/he works closely with colleagues and vendors to ensure 
consistent access to library holdings across multiple platforms including the 
library’s catalog and article discovery services. Manages YUL’s troubleshooting 
service, focused on complex access problems. Works closely with other units 
within ERSM and partner departments to support and improve access to licensed 
electronic collections.

Manages access to licensed and open access electronic resources through key 
systems such as the knowledge base, link resolver, discovery service, and 
integrated library system; Recommends and implements improvements to existing 
tools and workflows. Supports access to e-resources via IP authentication, 
remote access through VPN, and other network and identity management controls. 
Provides e-resource expertise both internally to library staff and externally 
to vendors and the larger Yale community. Oversees departmental troubleshooting 
support, resolving access-related problems, responding to reported issues, and 
working with internal and external partners to fix issues in a timely manner. 
Stays abreast of emerging trends and best practices related to e-resources. 
Plays an active role in e-resource related projects and initiatives as assigned.

Required Education, Skills and Experience:

  *   A Master's degree from an ALA‐accredited library school and a minimum of 
2 years of professional experience is required for this position.
  *   The ability to apply the principles that guide the organization of 
bibliographic information to the organization of electronic resources.
  *   Demonstrated ability working in an integrated library system or knowledge 
base. Conceptual and practical knowledge of the technologies used to manage and 
access e-resources over time.
  *   Familiarity with library acquisitions and licensing and how these impact 
access to electronic resources. An understanding of the best practices for 
managing the records that track electronic purchases, subscriptions, and 
licenses.
  *   Excellent oral and written communication skills; demonstrated analytical 
and organizational skills. Demonstrated ability to work both independently and 
in a team environment.

Yale University assigns ranks to librarian positions based on a combination of 
professional experience and accomplishments. Librarian ranking information can 
be found at: http://www.library.yale.edu/about/departments/lhr/rank.html.

Preferred Education, Skills and Experience: Demonstrated ability managing 
e-resources within an ILS, knowledge base, link resolver, and article discovery 
service. Familiarity with batch load procedures. Knowledge of e-resource 
licensing. Understanding of e-resource access issues. Demonstrated record 
designing projects and completing them in a timely manner. Demonstrated ability 
to effectively supervise, train and motivate staff.

The University and the Library
The Yale University Library, as one of the world's leading research libraries, 
collects, organizes, preserves, and provides access to and services for a rich 
and unique record of human thought and creativity. It fosters intellectual 
growth and supports the teaching and research missions of Yale University and 
scholarly communities worldwide. A distinctive strength is its rich spectrum of 
resources, including around 15 million volumes and information in all media, 
ranging from ancient papyri to early printed books to electronic databases. The 
Library is engaging in numerous projects to expand access to its physical and 
digital collections. Housed in eighteen buildings including the Sterling 
Memorial Library, the Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library, the Center for 
Science and Social Science Information, and the Bass Library, it employs a 
dynamic and diverse staff of approximately five hundred who offer innovative 
and flexible services to library readers.  For additional information on the 
Yale University Library, please visit the Library's web site at 

Re: [CODE4LIB] Online suggestion form or box

[Pennington, Buddy D.]

We built our own in Drupal: https://library.umkc.edu/suggestions


Buddy Pennington
Head of Library Systems & Technology
Miller Nichols Library
University of Missouri--Kansas City

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Beth 
Goodwin
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:52 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
Subject: [CODE4LIB] Online suggestion form or box

Good Afternoon,

Outside of the Springshare products, is anyone using a type of anonymous online 
suggestion/feedback form? A digital question and answer board?

Thanks!

Beth Goodwin
Trinity International University

[CODE4LIB] Online suggestion form or box

[Beth Goodwin]

Good Afternoon,

Outside of the Springshare products, is anyone using a type of anonymous
online suggestion/feedback form? A digital question and answer board?

Thanks!

Beth Goodwin
Trinity International University

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fiscal continuity vote now open

[Coral Sheldon-Hess]

Just bumping this, to remind people to vote. We have 129 votes cast, so
far, and I suspect more people are interested in the outcome of this than
have voted, yet.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Galen Charlton 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Voting for the various options presented in the report [1] of the
> Fiscal Continuity Interest Group is now open:
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K5MWGNC
>
> Because of a delay on my end getting the ballot set up, the voting
> period is extended and will close at midnight ET on Friday, 3 November
> 2017.
>
> As noted in the survey, the purpose of this vote is to determine the
> will of the Code4Lib community as it relates to ongoing fiscal
> continuity of our annual conferences, journal, and other undertakings.
> The options referenced in the two questions on the ballot are detailed
> in the report.
>
> The vote will use score voting (similar to Diebold-o-tron votes for
> conference locations and presentations) which allows for awarding
> scores to each choice on the ballot to reflect the strength of voters’
> preferences among all available options. More info on the rationale
> for score voting is available here:
> https://electology.org/score-voting
>
> The SurveyMonkey survey does not collect names or contact information
> but will collect IP addresses, which the FCIG will ignore unless we
> have reason to suspect that zoia and all of zoia's robot friends have
> decided to participate in the vote. (Or, to express it more seriously,
> we have reason to believe that something unexpected has happened and
> automated voting or other shenanigans took place.)  Early in the week
> following the closing of the vote, the FCIG will calculate and publish
> the results; the responses, sans IP addresses, will also be made
> available should anyone wish to double-check our arithmetic.
>
> Please note that unlike the Diebold-o-tron, SurveyMonkey provides no
> way for you to go back and edit your response if you should change
> your mind after submitting it.
>
> We encourage everybody who has participated or plans to participate in
> Code4Lib activities and/or who consider themselves a member of the
> Code4Lib community to read the report, discuss it, and vote.
>
> [1] https://wiki.code4lib.org/FCIG_Report
>
> Regards,
>
> Galen
> --
> Galen Charlton
> Infrastructure and Added Services Manager
> Equinox Open Library Initiative
> phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
> email:  g...@equinoxinitiative.org
> web:  https://equinoxInitiative.org
> direct: +1 770-709-5581
> cell:   +1 404-984-4366
>

[CODE4LIB] C4L 2018 Keynote Voting Open

[Charlie Harper]

The Code4Lib 2018 Keynote Speakers Committee is happy to open this year's
invited speaker election.

All nominees have been contacted and the 19 included in this election are
potentially available to speak. The top two available vote recipients will
be invited to be our keynote speakers this year. Voting will end in two
weeks on November 13.

When rating nominees, please consider whether they are likely to be an
excellent contributor in each the following areas:

1) **Appropriateness**. Is this speaker likely to convey information that
is useful to many members of our community?

2) **Uniqueness**. Is this speaker likely to cover themes that may not
commonly appear in the rest of the program?

3) **Contribution to diversity**. Will this person bring something rare,
notable, or unique to our community, through unusual experience or
background?


https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/c4l2018-keynote


Best,

Charlie Harper
*Digital Learning and Scholarship Librarian*
*Kelvin Smith Library*
*Case Western Reserve University*
(216)-368-4253 <(216)%20368-4253> | cr...@case.edu

[CODE4LIB] Redesigned eScholarship Site Launches

[Lisa Schiff]

The Publishing group at the California Digital Library is pleased to announce 
the launch of a major redesign of the eScholarship repository and publishing 
platform. eScholarship serves as the Open Access 
repository for the University of California system, offering tools and services 
to help UC scholars and researchers openly share the full range of their 
scholarly work. eScholarship also provides a comprehensive Open Access 
publishing program, currently publishing over 70 academic journals across 
academic disciplines.


The eScholarship redesign represents a significant departure from previous 
technology approaches to the site: the development team has consciously moved 
away from custom builds and toward more widely adopted, open source technology 
solutions and strategies used frequently both inside and outside the academic 
library domain.  Selected highlights include:


*A server built with Sinatra + Sequel

*Isomorphic JavaScript via node.js for server-side prerendering

*A "single-page" application built with React and various plugins


With this release, eScholarship now offers a robust consortial model: a single 
aggregated repository with custom access layers and a strong brand identity for 
each of our ten UC campus sub-repositories. The site is designed to meet the 
WCAG 2.0 AA standard for ADA accessibility, scales automatically for mobile and 
tablet devices, and features a flexible, modular design throughout the site 
that allows for multiple content display options and customizable landing pages 
through a lightweight, extensible and integrated CMS. Post-release, the team 
will turn its attention to creating a public API.


To learn more, visit the eScholarship redesign 
forum, read about 
the site's technical 
infrastructure
 at our Help Center, look at our code 
repository, see our feature 
list, or 
sign up for project 
updates.


It is our hope that this new model will be of interest to the community. Please 
visit the new eScholarship site and feel free to be in touch with any questions 
and feedback that you may have.

Lisa
===
Lisa Schiff, Ph.D.
Technical Lead
Access & Publishing Group
California Digital Library
Office of the President
University of California
415 20th Street, 4th Floor
Oakland, CA 94612-2901
510-987-0881 (t) 510-893-5212 (f)
http://orcid.org/-0002-3572-2981   @lschiff
Follow eScholarship on 
Facebook and 
Twitter

Re: [CODE4LIB] mini-catalogs

[Ken Chad]

A form on mini catalogue is of course the reading/resource list..
(Library centric) reading/resource list solutions are a major theme in the UK 
(and also Australia and New Zealand). Some libraries pay more for their reading 
list solution than their ILS because they see it having more value.

Adoption of reading list solutions such as Talis Aspire and ExLibris Leganto 
has reached over 50% of all UK Higher Ed libraries.  They provide a contextual 
(eg "I am a 2nd year anthropology student on week 2 of my course") view of the 
library catalogue that allows annotations by library staff and faculty (eg 
"Read chapter 4") and also students. The reading list very often trumps the 
OPAC/Discovery service especially for undergraduate students as it is usually 
closely integrated with the Learning Management System/VLE. Importantly the 
reading list will also contain resources that are typically *not* in the 
library catalogue such as digitised chapters. 

Now that US library system vendors like ProQuest/ExLibris and SirsiDynix have 
got into the reading list game (significantly different to 'course reserves') 
it looks like we'll see these solutions getting more widely adopted in the US

More information is on Higher Education Library Technology (HELibTech) 
http://helibtech.com/Reading_Resource+lists 
BTW I'm working on a (Open, CCO licensed) HELibTech Briefing paper on reading 
List and would love to get thoughts and feedback from US librarians I think 
it could be one of the next 'top tech trends'..

Ken
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-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Karen 
Coyle
Sent: 24 October 2017 16:35
To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] mini-catalogs

I like this idea.

We could add any reviews we can find, let people annotate the entries,
and call them bibliographies. There is an obvious (to me) need for
something other than a dump of bibliographic data based on a search. The
hard part will be facilitating selection, the wheat/chaff problem.
Not all of the items in our libraries are of equal import, but we have
no way to provide a ranking. (I think OCLC does this based on # of
holdings?) If a sub collection could be a SELECTION based on
INTELLIGENCE that would be ideal.

kc

On 10/24/17 7:56 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote:
> I think a “kewl” (as well as cool) idea is the creation of mini-catalogs.
> 
> Our libraries have large collection. That’s nice. But often the 
> student/scholar only wants to look at a smaller subset of the collection. For 
> example, they might want to look at only the books about painting. 
> Alternatively, they might want to only look at items in a particular sub 
> collection — a “special” collection. Unfortunately, and to the best of my 
> knowledge, our library catalogs are not really amenable to such things. 
> 
> In order to facilitate greater use & understanding of these sub collections, 
> I think it would be fun to:
> 
>   1. dump all the MARC records describing a sub collection
> 
>   2. generate a set of text files intended for printing, 
>  and these text files would manifest a VERY traditional 
>  library catalog [1]
> 
>   3. generate a computer-searchable index designed to be
>  used by a hand-held device [2]
> 
>   4. promote the use & availability of the outputs of
>  Steps #2 & #3
> 
> What’s kewl is that the text files can be given away, printed, and even 
> (“Gasp!”) written in. They require zero technology, and can last a long, long 
> time. Heck, they are even portable and copies can be placed at the head of 
> the collection(s). In days of old, librarians paid hundreds of dollars for 
> these sorts of “catalogs”. They can still be valuable today.
> 
> What’s more, the computer-searchable indexes and can be carried into the 
> stacks and used like a Star Trek tricorder to home in and browse the 
> collection(s). A bar code reader on the “tricorder” would be a helpful 
> interface. 
> 
> Fun with the blending of newer and older library techniques?
> 
> [1] example set of printed catalogs/indexes - 
> http://dh.crc.nd.edu/sandbox/pamphlets2indexes/
> [2] example computer-searchable index - 
> http://dh.crc.nd.edu/sandbox/pamphlets2analysis/search.cgi
> 
> —
> Eric Morgan
> University of Notre Dame
> 

-- 
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kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: +1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600

Re: [CODE4LIB] mini-catalogs

[Andrew Nagy]

Villanova implemented a model like this with VuFind.  Eric, you should
recall the Augustinian bibliography project that Notre Dame was involved
in.  Here is an example:
http://findingaugustine.org/

The new project that I am involved with, FOLIO, could supporting this
concept. The data model behind FOLIO, the FOLIO Codex, looks to combine
multiple "knowledgebases" of works.  For example, the LOC or a library
catalog could be considered a knowledgebase.  Organizations, libraries,
vendors, etc can then publish knowledgebases to be consumed or leveraged by
other groups.  The great thing is these collections will be using the
BIBFRAME model rather than MARC! For example, the Augustinian bibliography
(which is not MARC) could be published as a knowledgebase that could then
be consumed by libraries who are using FOLIO to manage their collection.
You could then put VuFind on top of the collection and make it publicly
accessible.

The FOLIO data model and supporting applications should be ready early next
year - would be fun to play with this concept and prove it out.

Andrew


On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Edward M. Corrado 
wrote:

> Interesting idea. I have hear some special collections and arrives that do
> something with printable finding aids although they serve a slightly
> different purpose. I need to think about what the specific use case would
> be, but it doesn't seem like it would be a ton of work to do this.
>
> Incidentally, while not really the same idea, many years ago I investigated
> using VUFind to do something like this. Obviously, it wasn't printable but
> people could search just out multimedia collection and I also experimented
> with doing this with the collection of educational resources. I changed
> jobs before it was implemented, but in testing it seemed pretty usefully -
> especially the multimedia collection since in out catalog at the time they
> were hidden and being a residential campus, students liked to borrow ones
> that were not only educational, but entertaining. Of course this was before
> Netflix, et al. existed.
>
> Edward
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
>
> > I think a “kewl” (as well as cool) idea is the creation of mini-catalogs.
> >
> > Our libraries have large collection. That’s nice. But often the
> > student/scholar only wants to look at a smaller subset of the collection.
> > For example, they might want to look at only the books about painting.
> > Alternatively, they might want to only look at items in a particular sub
> > collection — a “special” collection. Unfortunately, and to the best of my
> > knowledge, our library catalogs are not really amenable to such things.
> >
> > In order to facilitate greater use & understanding of these sub
> > collections, I think it would be fun to:
> >
> >   1. dump all the MARC records describing a sub collection
> >
> >   2. generate a set of text files intended for printing,
> >  and these text files would manifest a VERY traditional
> >  library catalog [1]
> >
> >   3. generate a computer-searchable index designed to be
> >  used by a hand-held device [2]
> >
> >   4. promote the use & availability of the outputs of
> >  Steps #2 & #3
> >
> > What’s kewl is that the text files can be given away, printed, and even
> > (“Gasp!”) written in. They require zero technology, and can last a long,
> > long time. Heck, they are even portable and copies can be placed at the
> > head of the collection(s). In days of old, librarians paid hundreds of
> > dollars for these sorts of “catalogs”. They can still be valuable today.
> >
> > What’s more, the computer-searchable indexes and can be carried into the
> > stacks and used like a Star Trek tricorder to home in and browse the
> > collection(s). A bar code reader on the “tricorder” would be a helpful
> > interface.
> >
> > Fun with the blending of newer and older library techniques?
> >
> > [1] example set of printed catalogs/indexes -
> > http://dh.crc.nd.edu/sandbox/pamphlets2indexes/
> > [2] example computer-searchable index - http://dh.crc.nd.edu/sandbox/
> > pamphlets2analysis/search.cgi
> >
> > —
> > Eric Morgan
> > University of Notre Dame
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] mini-catalogs

[Edward M. Corrado]

Interesting idea. I have hear some special collections and arrives that do
something with printable finding aids although they serve a slightly
different purpose. I need to think about what the specific use case would
be, but it doesn't seem like it would be a ton of work to do this.

Incidentally, while not really the same idea, many years ago I investigated
using VUFind to do something like this. Obviously, it wasn't printable but
people could search just out multimedia collection and I also experimented
with doing this with the collection of educational resources. I changed
jobs before it was implemented, but in testing it seemed pretty usefully -
especially the multimedia collection since in out catalog at the time they
were hidden and being a residential campus, students liked to borrow ones
that were not only educational, but entertaining. Of course this was before
Netflix, et al. existed.

Edward

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:

> I think a “kewl” (as well as cool) idea is the creation of mini-catalogs.
>
> Our libraries have large collection. That’s nice. But often the
> student/scholar only wants to look at a smaller subset of the collection.
> For example, they might want to look at only the books about painting.
> Alternatively, they might want to only look at items in a particular sub
> collection — a “special” collection. Unfortunately, and to the best of my
> knowledge, our library catalogs are not really amenable to such things.
>
> In order to facilitate greater use & understanding of these sub
> collections, I think it would be fun to:
>
>   1. dump all the MARC records describing a sub collection
>
>   2. generate a set of text files intended for printing,
>  and these text files would manifest a VERY traditional
>  library catalog [1]
>
>   3. generate a computer-searchable index designed to be
>  used by a hand-held device [2]
>
>   4. promote the use & availability of the outputs of
>  Steps #2 & #3
>
> What’s kewl is that the text files can be given away, printed, and even
> (“Gasp!”) written in. They require zero technology, and can last a long,
> long time. Heck, they are even portable and copies can be placed at the
> head of the collection(s). In days of old, librarians paid hundreds of
> dollars for these sorts of “catalogs”. They can still be valuable today.
>
> What’s more, the computer-searchable indexes and can be carried into the
> stacks and used like a Star Trek tricorder to home in and browse the
> collection(s). A bar code reader on the “tricorder” would be a helpful
> interface.
>
> Fun with the blending of newer and older library techniques?
>
> [1] example set of printed catalogs/indexes -
> http://dh.crc.nd.edu/sandbox/pamphlets2indexes/
> [2] example computer-searchable index - http://dh.crc.nd.edu/sandbox/
> pamphlets2analysis/search.cgi
>
> —
> Eric Morgan
> University of Notre Dame
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] mini-catalogs

[Karen Coyle]

I like this idea.

We could add any reviews we can find, let people annotate the entries,
and call them bibliographies. There is an obvious (to me) need for
something other than a dump of bibliographic data based on a search. The
hard part will be facilitating selection, the wheat/chaff problem.
Not all of the items in our libraries are of equal import, but we have
no way to provide a ranking. (I think OCLC does this based on # of
holdings?) If a sub collection could be a SELECTION based on
INTELLIGENCE that would be ideal.

kc

On 10/24/17 7:56 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote:
> I think a “kewl” (as well as cool) idea is the creation of mini-catalogs.
> 
> Our libraries have large collection. That’s nice. But often the 
> student/scholar only wants to look at a smaller subset of the collection. For 
> example, they might want to look at only the books about painting. 
> Alternatively, they might want to only look at items in a particular sub 
> collection — a “special” collection. Unfortunately, and to the best of my 
> knowledge, our library catalogs are not really amenable to such things. 
> 
> In order to facilitate greater use & understanding of these sub collections, 
> I think it would be fun to:
> 
>   1. dump all the MARC records describing a sub collection
> 
>   2. generate a set of text files intended for printing, 
>  and these text files would manifest a VERY traditional 
>  library catalog [1]
> 
>   3. generate a computer-searchable index designed to be
>  used by a hand-held device [2]
> 
>   4. promote the use & availability of the outputs of
>  Steps #2 & #3
> 
> What’s kewl is that the text files can be given away, printed, and even 
> (“Gasp!”) written in. They require zero technology, and can last a long, long 
> time. Heck, they are even portable and copies can be placed at the head of 
> the collection(s). In days of old, librarians paid hundreds of dollars for 
> these sorts of “catalogs”. They can still be valuable today.
> 
> What’s more, the computer-searchable indexes and can be carried into the 
> stacks and used like a Star Trek tricorder to home in and browse the 
> collection(s). A bar code reader on the “tricorder” would be a helpful 
> interface. 
> 
> Fun with the blending of newer and older library techniques?
> 
> [1] example set of printed catalogs/indexes - 
> http://dh.crc.nd.edu/sandbox/pamphlets2indexes/
> [2] example computer-searchable index - 
> http://dh.crc.nd.edu/sandbox/pamphlets2analysis/search.cgi
> 
> —
> Eric Morgan
> University of Notre Dame
> 

-- 
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: +1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600

Re: [CODE4LIB] c4l site down (?)

[Wick, Ryan David]

Should be back up now.

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Francis 
Kayiwa
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 7:42 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] c4l site down (?)



On 10/24/17 10:36 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
> PDOException: SQLSTATE[0] [1129] Host 'poseidon.code4lib.org' is 
> blocked because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin 
> flush-hosts' in lock_may_be_available() (line 167 of 
> /data/www/code4lib.org/drupal-new/includes/lock.inc).

I ping'ed Ryan on the slack channel.

./fxk

> 

[CODE4LIB] mini-catalogs

[Eric Lease Morgan]

I think a “kewl” (as well as cool) idea is the creation of mini-catalogs.

Our libraries have large collection. That’s nice. But often the student/scholar 
only wants to look at a smaller subset of the collection. For example, they 
might want to look at only the books about painting. Alternatively, they might 
want to only look at items in a particular sub collection — a “special” 
collection. Unfortunately, and to the best of my knowledge, our library 
catalogs are not really amenable to such things. 

In order to facilitate greater use & understanding of these sub collections, I 
think it would be fun to:

  1. dump all the MARC records describing a sub collection

  2. generate a set of text files intended for printing, 
 and these text files would manifest a VERY traditional 
 library catalog [1]

  3. generate a computer-searchable index designed to be
 used by a hand-held device [2]

  4. promote the use & availability of the outputs of
 Steps #2 & #3

What’s kewl is that the text files can be given away, printed, and even 
(“Gasp!”) written in. They require zero technology, and can last a long, long 
time. Heck, they are even portable and copies can be placed at the head of the 
collection(s). In days of old, librarians paid hundreds of dollars for these 
sorts of “catalogs”. They can still be valuable today.

What’s more, the computer-searchable indexes and can be carried into the stacks 
and used like a Star Trek tricorder to home in and browse the collection(s). A 
bar code reader on the “tricorder” would be a helpful interface. 

Fun with the blending of newer and older library techniques?

[1] example set of printed catalogs/indexes - 
http://dh.crc.nd.edu/sandbox/pamphlets2indexes/
[2] example computer-searchable index - 
http://dh.crc.nd.edu/sandbox/pamphlets2analysis/search.cgi

—
Eric Morgan
University of Notre Dame

Re: [CODE4LIB] c4l site down (?)

[Francis Kayiwa]

On 10/24/17 10:36 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
> PDOException: SQLSTATE[0] [1129] Host 'poseidon.code4lib.org' is
> blocked because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin
> flush-hosts' in lock_may_be_available() (line 167 of
> /data/www/code4lib.org/drupal-new/includes/lock.inc).

I ping'ed Ryan on the slack channel.

./fxk

> 



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[CODE4LIB] c4l site down (?)

[Karen Coyle]

PDOException: SQLSTATE[0] [1129] Host 'poseidon.code4lib.org' is
blocked because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin
flush-hosts' in lock_may_be_available() (line 167 of
/data/www/code4lib.org/drupal-new/includes/lock.inc).
-- 
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: +1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600