Re: [CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-10 Thread Colleen Whitney
Great inputthanks for the discussion. A few notes on what we're seeing on our end: a) We've just finished testing a content-based relevance ranking method with users; it works well for academic users, and will probably work better with some tweaking of field weights.I'll have more speci

Re: [CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-10 Thread Hickey,Thom
Actually we've been experimenting with 'audience level' (http://www.oclc.org/research/projects/audience/) which attempts to address that, based on what type of libraries hold the items. It should help, but again, this is new and we don't have much more than anecdotal evidence so far, and how to wo

Re: [CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-10 Thread David Walker
The only tricky thing about this with WorldCat, though, is that you have such a large mix of libraries. In my own searching on WorldCat, I've noticed that a fair amount of fiction and non-scholarly works appear near the top of results because the public libraries are skewing the holdings of those

Re: [CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-10 Thread K.G. Schneider
> I'd agree with this. > > Actually, though, 'relevancy' ranking based on where terms occur in the > record and how many times they occur is of minor help compared to some > sort of popularity score. WorldCat holdings work fairly well for that, > as should circulation data. The primary example of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-10 Thread Hickey,Thom
I'd agree with this. Actually, though, 'relevancy' ranking based on where terms occur in the record and how many times they occur is of minor help compared to some sort of popularity score. WorldCat holdings work fairly well for that, as should circulation data. The primary example of this sort

Re: [CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-10 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
When you are ranking on number of holdings like OCLC is, a straight sum makes sense to me---the sum of all libraries holding copies of any manifestation of the FRBR work is indeed the sum of the holdings for all the records in the FRBR work set. Of course. If you're doing relavancy rankings inste

Re: [CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-10 Thread Hickey,Thom
We're doing straight sums of the holdings of all the manifestations in the work. It's hard for me to see the need to discount holdings in multiple manifestations. It does mean that 'bible' tends to come to the top for many searches, but that's about the only work-set I see coming up unexpectedly

Re: [CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-10 Thread K.G. Schneider
> Here at OCLC we're ranking based on the holdings of all the records in > the retrieved work set. Seems to work pretty well. Ok, truly intended as genuine curiosity--not intending to be provocative--but how do you know it's working well? Karen G. Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --Th > > -O

Re: [CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-10 Thread Colleen Whitney
Thanks...is it just a straight sum, Thom? --C Hickey,Thom wrote: Here at OCLC we're ranking based on the holdings of all the records in the retrieved work set. Seems to work pretty well. --Th -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colleen

Re: [CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-10 Thread Hickey,Thom
Here at OCLC we're ranking based on the holdings of all the records in the retrieved work set. Seems to work pretty well. --Th -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colleen Whitney Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:06 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.

[CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-10 Thread Colleen Whitney
Hello all, Here's a question for anyone who has been thinking about or working with FRBR for creating record groupings for display. (Perhaps others have already discussed or addressed this...in which case I'd be happy to have a pointer to resources that are already out there.) In a retrieval en