[CODE4LIB] Position: Programmer at Villanova University Library

2007-11-06 Thread Andrew Nagy
Library Software Development Specialist Falvey Library, Villanova University This position reports to the Technology Management Team and is responsible for designing, developing, testing and deploying new technology methods, tools and resources to extend and enhance digitally-mediated or

Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Software Manifesto

2007-11-06 Thread Mark Jordan
Roy, WRT I have a right to the API if I've bought the product, would it be useful to add, maybe as a subpoint, I have a right to implement the API in an open source product even if I've signed an NDA dealing with that API? I understand vendor's (perceived) need for non disclosure statements, but

Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Software Manifesto

2007-11-06 Thread Reese, Terry
Roy, While your rights are interesting, the consumer responsibilities I find are actually more important (and always more difficult to see followed). As some that develops software for wide public consumption (read, not developers but the computer illiterate in many cases), I find that

Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Software Manifesto

2007-11-06 Thread Jonathan Gorman
Hmmm, I'm tempted to add something to responsibilities along the lines of Seek to understand the priorities of the software developers. Similar to requesting features responsibly. I can see an important difference. Sometimes it's important to let people know of a desired feature, even if in

Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Software Manifesto

2007-11-06 Thread Roy Tennant
On 11/6/07 10:27 AM, Jonathan Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about an equivalent list from the vendor/software developer's perspective? I think that would help balance the picture, but perhaps that's already in your plans ;). Funny you should ask...I had originally intended to do this,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Software Manifesto

2007-11-06 Thread Andrew Ashton
Vendors need to guarantee that software development and support is not a factor of the software's life-cycle. Too many library systems products are being under supported presumably because the products are no longer generating new revenue for the vendor. I don't know how that fits into your

Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Software Manifesto

2007-11-06 Thread Tim McGeary
I think this depends entirely on what type of developer we are talking about. Let's say it is a large ILS vendor who promises that their software will do all things for all types of library. When a promised feature or a discovered bug that only applies to a small subset of their customer base

Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Software Manifesto

2007-11-06 Thread Jonathan Gorman
some ideas for vendor's responsibilities: 1) Care for the software as a whole. This means sometimes not giving what your customers what in the short term to make a better product in the long term. 2) Care about the end user, despite whoever your customers are. Frequently they're not the same.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Software Manifesto

2007-11-06 Thread Tim Shearer
Hi Roy, Not sure how to make this succinct enough to be elegant (i.e. a bullet point) but... We have a large enough staff to break into software when necessary. A typical scenario is: We need a feature added (or bug removed) to make workflow tenable We request the feature (bug fix) We hear

Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Software Manifesto

2007-11-06 Thread Carl Grant
I'm willing to jump in here as a long time vendor to add to the customer responsibility list some items that would make developers/ vendors a lot happier.. 1. Select software using a fair and reasonable process for both the vendor and the organization (one could say a lot more here!) 2.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Software Manifesto

2007-11-06 Thread Jonathan Gorman
Original message Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:16:05 -0500 From: Tim McGeary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Software Manifesto To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu I think this depends entirely on what type of developer we are talking about. Let's say it is a large ILS vendor who