Re: [CODE4LIB] coverage of google book viewability API

2008-05-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
The Google API returns sufficient information to NOT point people to books with no preview--it tells if full view, partial view, or no view is provided for a given book. I agree that our software that uses this API ought to either suppress no-preview books entirely, or present them in a

Re: [CODE4LIB] coverage of google book viewability API

2008-05-07 Thread Edward M. Corrado
I think Kyle brings up a great point. If we can get links to previews, patrons will have a better understanding of what a book has to decide if they want to go to another library on campus to look at it, request it to be retrieved from off-site storage, ILL it, etc. This would be a very useful

[CODE4LIB] Latest OpenLibrary.org release

2008-05-07 Thread Alexis Rossi
The OpenLibrary.org http://www.openlibrary.org team has just finished its latest release on the long path towards one web page for every book ever published. What's new? * added another 6 million book records (13.4 million total) with 18 million more records waiting to be integrated

[CODE4LIB] [Fwd: [ol-tech] Latest OpenLibrary.org release]

2008-05-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Latest OpenLibrary.org release

2008-05-07 Thread Dr R. Sanderson
* built an API http://www.openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api to the data which allows you to query the database for objects matching particular criteria or to GET an object from the database Not SRU? Any reasons why you rolled your own? Rob

Re: [CODE4LIB] Latest OpenLibrary.org release

2008-05-07 Thread Alexis Rossi
I'm the only non-techie on the team, so I don't know that much about SRU. (Our head programmer lives in India, and is presumably asleep at the moment, otherwise I'd ask him!) Is it an interface that is used primarily by libraries? We are definitely hoping that our API will be used by all

Re: [CODE4LIB] Latest OpenLibrary.org release

2008-05-07 Thread Dr R. Sanderson
I'm the only non-techie on the team, so I don't know that much about SRU. (Our head programmer lives in India, and is presumably asleep at the moment, otherwise I'd ask him!) Is it an interface that is used primarily by libraries? We are definitely hoping that our API will be used by all

Re: [CODE4LIB] Latest OpenLibrary.org release

2008-05-07 Thread Casey Durfee
SRU is crap, in my opinion -- overengineered and under-thought, incomprehensible to non-librarians and burdened by the weight of history. The notion that it was designed to be used by all kinds of clients on all kinds of data is irrelevant in my book. Nobody in the *library world* uses it, much

Re: [CODE4LIB] coverage of google book viewability API

2008-05-07 Thread Genny Engel
Our request volume goes up all the time, as does the quantity of items that patrons flip through and then abandon at the holds shelf. The better information they have up front before they make the request, in theory, the lower the chance they'll request items that they then don't pick up. We

Re: [CODE4LIB] coverage of google book viewability API

2008-05-07 Thread Tim Spalding
Two thought experiments: *Let's add SparkNotes to the catalog. After all, SparkNotes has information about books. Therefore, since all information is good information, let's add it to the catalog. *If SparkNotes, let's add free-essay-mill essays into the catalog. *If that works, let's add

Re: [CODE4LIB] coverage of google book viewability API

2008-05-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
So are you opposed to the long-standing practice of adding table of contents to catalog records on the same grounds? Table of contents is one thing that Google metadata can provide. Certainly if Google's metadata were bad enough, it should not be included. I'm confused as to why you're arguing

Re: [CODE4LIB] Latest OpenLibrary.org release

2008-05-07 Thread Dr R. Sanderson
I shouldn't respond to such blatant trolling, but heh... On Wed, 7 May 2008, Casey Durfee wrote: SRU is crap, in my opinion -- overengineered and under-thought, incomprehensible to non-librarians and burdened by the weight of history. What is so incomprehensible about it? Is it the fact it

Re: [CODE4LIB] Latest OpenLibrary.org release

2008-05-07 Thread Walker, David
Nobody in the *library world* uses it, much less non-libraries. Ironically, I was just checking email in between using the WorldCat SRU server. In addition to the systems Rob mentioned, there are also article databases like JSTOR and Springerlink that implement SRU, and every metasearch