[CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Ken Irwin
Hi folks, With some limitations, the Google Books API allows folks to access book covers for free. (How's that working out? Anyone having luck with it?) -- what about movie/DVD/VHS covers? Are there any free sources for those images? I'd like to work up a virtual-browsing interface for our

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Peter Murray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 19, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Ken Irwin wrote: With some limitations, the Google Books API allows folks to access book covers for free. (How's that working out? Anyone having luck with it?) -- what about movie/DVD/VHS covers? Are there any free

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread James M. Gilbert
Haven't tried any of this... http://www.trynt.com/trynt-movie-imdb-api/ James M. Gilbert Systems Librarian Whitehall Township Public Library 3700 Mechanicsville Road Whitehall, PA 18052 610-432-4339 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://whitehall.lib.pa.us -Original Message- From: Code for

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Keith Jenkins
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Peter Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMDB has cover art for films, but I haven't looked to see if they provide an API to get to them /a la/ Google Books. I don't think IMDB is an option... All pictures and videos found on our site (including movie stills,

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Peter Keane
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 01:36:18PM -0400, Ken Irwin wrote: I suppose I'm more concerned with copyright than harvesting -- I can have a minion harvest the images by hand if they're legal to use. Is that even an issue? I would've thought you'd be covered under the Arriba Soft ruling:

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Gavin Spomer wrote: Interesting thread topic. There's a donationware application for Macs called Fennel DVDManager (http://dvdmanager.free.fr/) that will download cover artwork from IMDB and Amazon. Wonder if they're doing it legally? You could also sniff the traffic to

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Gabriel Sean Farrell
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:39:06AM -0400, Ken Irwin wrote: With some limitations, the Google Books API allows folks to access book covers for free. (How's that working out? Anyone having luck with it?) -- what about movie/DVD/VHS covers? Are there any free sources for those images? I'd like

Re: [CODE4LIB] data dumps

2008-05-19 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Hi Brewster. Below (quoted) is the URL you emailed me during the code4lib conference last february for a way to get XML search responses from the IA. I am now getting around to implementing my functionality that will use this... and it looks like this is no longer available? I guess it's good it

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Ross Singer
An application called i-Covers polls this list: http://www.i-covers.net/en_bases.htm for covers/posters. -Ross. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Gabriel Sean Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:39:06AM -0400, Ken Irwin wrote: With some limitations, the Google Books API

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Charles Ledvina
I know my suggestion is probably filled with copyright infringements but you could use your Amazon API to get links to all of their images. Your url would look something like this:

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Peter Keane
Hi All- Another link about thumbnail images not being copyright-able: http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/947 Perhaps for some reason these precedents do not apply here (although I doubt it) -- I am no lawyer. But I DO think that it is our responsibilty as librarians and educators to *not* shy

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Jonathan Gorman
Another link about thumbnail images not being copyright-able: http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/947 I don't think this particular case is saying thumbnail images are not copyrightable, but rather that the creation of them is fair use. I haven't read it closely, but if you look at the case

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Peter Keane
Actually, this is one of a number of links out there (esp. regarding the Arriba Soft case) suggesting that fair use, regarding thumbnail images, is quite often the applicable standard, the key (often) being that there is no Effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Syndetics/Bowker makes money in selling media cover image thumbnails. Does Bowker has a license from the publishers to do that? I think so, I think the publisher's make some money off it. Therefore there is some commercial value in cover images, and effect on the commercial value of those

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
But I would agree that it is our duty as libraries to be pushing the boundaries of these grey areas in a world where much of copyright _is_ currently a gray area, not automatically taking the most expansive perspective with regard to copyright holders rights, out of fear. Not just society, but I

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Jonathan Gorman
Actually, this is one of a number of links out there (esp. regarding the Arriba Soft case) suggesting that fair use, regarding thumbnail images, is quite often the applicable standard, the key (often) being that there is no Effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Ken Irwin
I'm puzzling through all of this too. Could it be the case that the acquisition of the images would be problematic (the files are owned or licensed by other companies) but that the use of the images is ok? That would be a particularly annoying snarl: if you've got it, you can use it, but you

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Casey Durfee
One could embed the actual cataloging record data in the thumbnails using steganography... On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Peter Keane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looked at another way: a thumbnail is just a bit of visual metadata, and you cannot copyright metadata. --peter keane

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Peter Keane
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 05:29:38PM -0400, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: But I would agree that it is our duty as libraries to be pushing the boundaries of these grey areas in a world where much of copyright _is_ currently a gray area, not automatically taking the most expansive perspective with

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Well, I think that if you think it's completely clear and obvious that it IS legal to use thumbnails without permission from the copyright holder, OR if you think it's completely clear and obvious that it's NOTin either case you are probably mistaken. Copyright in the 21st century is seldom

[CODE4LIB] xOCLCnum, newest member of the xIdentifier family

2008-05-19 Thread McCormick,Timothy
I'd like to announce and invite you to try xOCLCnum, the latest in the xIdentifier family of Web services from OCLC. Just as xISBN allows you to find all related editions of a book by entering its ISBN, xOCLCnum does the same thing using OCLC number. xOCLCnum is queried using a simple URL

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Peter Keane
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 06:12:09PM -0400, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Well, I think that if you think it's completely clear and obvious that it IS legal to use thumbnails without permission from the copyright holder, OR if you think it's completely clear and obvious that it's NOTin either

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Steve Oberg
All, This has been an interesting discussion and frankly it is not uncommon in my experience for these kinds of questions to arise. Not sure I have anything to add in terms of answers, but see my response below to one part of Peter Keane's recent message. Looked at another way: a thumbnail is