Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Ross Singer
Wait, has there actually been confirmation of this behavior? What browser displays the title for a span? I haven't run across this. -Ross. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I had recently noticed indepedently, been unhappy with the way a COinS

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Chad Fennell
On Dec 4, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Tom Habing wrote: link rel=unapi-server type=application/xml title=unAPI href=http://www.dlfaquifer.org/unapi / Yes, forgot to mention this piece. link rel=unapi-server type=application/xml title=unAPI href=http://ethicshare.org/unapi /

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Thomas Dowling
On 12/05/2008 10:45 AM, Ross Singer wrote: Wait, has there actually been confirmation of this behavior? What browser displays the title for a span? I haven't run across this. If you tag things as span title='foo'Some Text/span, most browsers will display the title as a tooltip over Some

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Godmar Back
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I know of. You can say display:none, but that'll probably hide it from LibX etc too. No, why would it. BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the child of the span is empty. Do they

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread bill
Actually... @media aural :-) http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/media.html#media-types But is it supported well enough? On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I know of. You can say display:none, but that'll probably hide it from LibX etc too. What is

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread David Jones
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:31 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is needed is a CSS @media for screen readers, like one exists for 'print'. For CSS3, the working group feels that screen readers should combine screen and speech media types as

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Thomas Dowling
Actually [EMAIL PROTECTED] speech. :-) http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/aural.html CSS 2.1 reserves the 'speech' media type (see chapter 7, Media types), but does not yet define which properties do or do not apply to it...The type 'aural' is now deprecated. I strongly suspect the current generation

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Ross Singer
Right, one note on that: http://ocoins.info/#id3205609416 What I was more referring to was this behavior occurring w/r/t to COinS/unAPI. 1) Is this really happening? 2) Wouldn't this be an implementation issue? -Ross. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Thomas Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Ross Singer
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I know of. You can say display:none, but that'll probably hide it from LibX etc too. No, why would it. I agree with Godmar -- everything

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
My Firefox3 does, and my IE7 does too. That's mysterious that yours doesn't. Jonathan Ross Singer wrote: Wait, has there actually been confirmation of this behavior? What browser displays the title for a span? I haven't run across this. -Ross. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Jonathan

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Ah, thanks Godmar and Thomas. The empty span is probably the key. I don't always use empty spans for COinS. For instance, the Code4Lib Journal, we put a link inside the span that takes you to a page that says If you had LibX installed, you'd get useful functionality here instead of this link.

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Oops, good point, display:none might cause problems for COinS using user-agents that count on inserting content into the span and having it be visible. Perhaps user-agents should be changed to change the style, removing display:none if it's there, maybe that should be reccommended best

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Ed Summers
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would it. BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the child of the span is empty. Do they try to read empty text? And if a COinS is processed, we fix up the title so tooltips show nicely. Yeah, if

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Ross Singer
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the child of the span is empty. Do they try to read empty text? And if a COinS is processed, we fix up the title so tooltips show nicely. Thinking about this

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Godmar Back
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Ross Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the child of the span is empty. Do they try to read empty text? And if a COinS is

[CODE4LIB] SITKA consortium - job postings

2008-12-05 Thread Hyman, Ben EDUC:EX
Apologies for duplicate postings. Greetings, SITKA is hiring! Evergreen database programmer and Trainer/help desk specialist job ads are located here: http://sitka.bclibraries.ca/news/job-posting-database-programmers And here:

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Michael Ang
Ed Summers wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would it. BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the child of the span is empty. Do they try to read empty text? And if a COinS is processed, we fix up the title so tooltips