As I was trying to figure out what to do with half a terabyte of
archival TIFFS it occurred to me that perhaps someone else had this
problem. We are starting to produce massive amounts of digital
objects (videos, archival TIFFS, audio interviews). Up until now we
have been dealing with ways to
Hi Edward,
Might I suggest you look into cloud computing services if you're looking at
different options. (I know you're all shocked I suggested it). If our
budget weren't so abysmal (and going to get worse) we would be using it
right now rather than the snap server we purchased with leftover
I think you probably need to come up with a long term plan with real
institutional commitment. Storing files and making sure they are backed
up is all well and good, but that is only one part of a long term
digital preservation project. How are you protecting against bit rot?
what about
Rosalyn's post made me think of one more thing if you are looking
into outside entities (such as we are), what are the terms of service
and what guarantee do they offer they won't lose your data? I believe
that A3 does not offer any guarantee, so if you go with them, you
probably want to
The basic idea of LOCKSS is always what I think of when it comes to
archival: lots of copies. For my own personal archival stuff, I do use a
Drobo...and have recommended that we get one of the new Drobo Pros for use
here in the library. But not for archival, just for storage. For things that
I
- Jason Griffey grif...@gmail.com wrote:
The basic idea of LOCKSS is always what I think of when it comes to
archival: lots of copies.
We're starting to use LOCKSS, in the form of a consortial Private LOCKSS
Network (PLN), and it is proving to be useful. I'll be presenting on what we're
Speaking of LOCKSS (and PLNs), there's the MetaArchive:
http://www.metaarchive.org/
You might want to consider contacting them as well.
Mark
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Edward Iglesias wrote:
As I was trying to figure out what to do with half a terabyte of
archival TIFFS it occurred to me that perhaps someone else had this
problem. We are starting to produce massive amounts of digital
objects (videos, archival TIFFS, audio interviews).
I have to agree with Ed. You should have a good policy in place for backing
up your data. Just throwing it on a server isn't a policy.
At the same time I would have to disagree with Ed. You should look at S3 as
if it was your own server. What is the guarantee that you supply to your
users
Agreed on both of Rosalyn's points.
I'm wary of the hot backup options discussed in this thread for large
quantities of data. First of all, hot backup is expensive -- disks
aren't that inexpensive, and after you add power and space, it gets
much worse. Start keeping many copies, and the price
Hi Kyle,
- Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com wrote:
LOCKSS is good for protecting articles since that is what it is
designed to do. For a variety of reasons that go beyond cost, I think
it's a hopeless model for backup.
Just to clarify, I wasn't suggesting that LOCKSS is for
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Hi Roslyn,
I probably wasn't clear I didn't mean to say don't use cloud storage
if you think it is a good solution, in many cases it could be. I meant
that if you really want to preserve your data you need to do more than
put it in the cloud (or for that matter on a local storage device).
We have a historic idea of what it means to maintain space for analog
collections. For many institutions a lot of that initial funding has
come from capital building funds. While the technological solutions are
not clear to me at this point (and I'm benefiting from this thread on
that), I am
This would require multiple cases. But if they were distributed to
different points, the chances of losing them all would be reduced...
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:35 AM, David J. Fianderda...@fiander.info wrote:
You know, putting Dick Cheney is a pelican case might have solved a lot of
problems
Has anyone been able to give a projection to their management on what the
total cost per TB is for preservation over even a short horizon of 10 years?
The trick is that the cost varies drastically with the model employed.
Preservation is insurance, plain and simple. If you buy more coverage,
yep, good points, agree all 'round.
One thing in the analog world that may be appropriate is that we do not
view all collections as equal. In kicking this around locally we've been
discussing different levels (or insurance policies) per collection
depending on things like how unique it is,
On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:22 AM, Rosalyn Metz wrote:
Might I suggest you look into cloud computing services if you're
looking at
different options. (I know you're all shocked I suggested it). If our
budget weren't so abysmal (and going to get worse) we would be using
it
right now rather than
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Jimmy Ghaphery wrote:
We have a historic idea of what it means to maintain space for analog
collections. For many institutions a lot of that initial funding has come
from capital building funds. While the technological solutions are not clear
to me at this point (and I'm
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Ryan Ordwayrord...@oregonstate.edu wrote:
$213,360 over 3 years
If you're ONLY looking at storage costs, SATA drives in enterprise RAID
systems range from about $1.00/GB to about $1.25/GB for online storage.
Yeah -- but if you're looking only at storage
Nate Vack wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Ryan Ordwayrord...@oregonstate.edu wrote:
$213,360 over 3 years
If you're ONLY looking at storage costs, SATA drives in enterprise RAID
systems range from about $1.00/GB to about $1.25/GB for online storage.
Yeah -- but if
I've been pondering this a lot lately. We're starting from the ground up on a
concerted digital asset management effort after years of one-off solutions.
When I arrived, I inherited piles of CDs and DVDs, things stashed on servers
all over the place, etc.
I am now implementing a digital asset
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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Edward M. Corradoecorr...@ecorrado.us wrote:
Yes, maybe you save on staff time patching software on your storage array,
but that is not a significant amount of time - esp. since you are still
going to have some local storage, and there isn't much difference in
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Edward M. Corrado ecorr...@ecorrado.uswrote:
Nate Vack wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Ryan Ordwayrord...@oregonstate.edu
wrote:
$213,360 over 3 years
If you're ONLY looking at storage costs, SATA drives in enterprise RAID
systems range from
Joe Atzberger wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Edward M. Corrado ecorr...@ecorrado.uswrote:
Nate Vack wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Ryan Ordwayrord...@oregonstate.edu
wrote:
$213,360 over 3 years
If you're ONLY looking at storage costs, SATA
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