[CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Matt Amory
Is there a full-featured ILS that is not based on MARC records? I know we love complexity, but it seems to me that my public library and its library network and maybe even every public library could probably do without 95% of MARC Fields and encoding, streamline workflows and save $ if there were

Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Wilfred Drew
So you want a non-standard way to display and use what your library has? What about future moves to another ILS? What about getting your ILS to work with other systems or web services? There are reasons for standards. It is not to make our jobs harder. Bill Drew -Original Message-

Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Michael Hopwood
Matt, Looks to me at a cursory glance that at least one Endeca implementation is still drawing on MaRC data: http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/endeca/technology.html ...even if not directly using MaRC for search: http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/endeca/faqs.html MaRC is simply the widest-used library standard.

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2012-03-14 Thread jobs
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Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Owen, Will
The Endeca implementation at the Triangle Research Libraries Network (and indeed, in general) is an *index* of information about items in our libraries' collections. The format of the data that's fed into the index can be (and is) variable: we're about to start loading items from our digital

Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Michael Hopwood
That was my impression... I should have mentioned the efforts just starting within my current project to map MaRC (or flavour[s] thereof!) to the open LIDO standard: http://network.icom.museum/cidoc/working-groups/data-harvesting-and-interchange.html It's interesting in that it will hopefully

Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Bess Sadler
Hi, Matt. Welcome to code4lib. Good question! Here's a quick summary of my understanding of what I think you're asking: Q1. Is there an ILS that is not based on MaRC records? A1. No, not to my knowledge. Yes, marc cataloging can seem tedious and arcane, but we have lots of tools for working

Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Wilfred Drew
I did not mean to sound snarky in my earlier message but I do not understand why no one is talking about standards and why we have them. This includes standard ways to present and transmit data between systems. That is oen of the big reasons for using MARC.

Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Bill Dueber
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Wilfred Drew dr...@tc3.edu wrote: I did not mean to sound snarky in my earlier message but I do not understand why no one is talking about standards and why we have them. This includes standard ways to present and transmit data between systems. That is oen

Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Edward M. Corrado
One thing I haven't heard anyone talk about is that while MARC can be complicated, the abundance of MARC records available makes it rather easy to populate an ILS as long as you don't have to do [mostly] original cataloging. For example, the Career Development Center on campus here uses Koha. They

Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Walter Lewis
On 2012-03-14, at 2:11 PM, Bess Sadler wrote: Q1. Is there an ILS that is not based on MaRC records? A1. No, not to my knowledge. Yes, marc cataloging can seem tedious and arcane, but we have lots of tools for working with it at this point. All commercial ILS vendors that I am aware of

Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Ross Singer
It would probably help frame your question a bit if you went into a little more detail as to where you think the problem is. Are your catalogers struggling with some particular kind of data entry? Is it that you're trying to do stuff with MARC data (say, via an export or something) and you

[CODE4LIB] edUi 2012 Call For Proposals

2012-03-14 Thread EdUI Conference
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Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Akerman, Laura
The real key to moving libraries away from MARC will probably be transformation of the sharing situation. Open linked data gives promise of being able to do this (if everyone was able to harvest whatever triples they needed for whatever they wanted to describe) -- but wouldn't there need to be

Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Matt Amory
Thanks for all the responses. Perhaps I woke up thos morning on the wrong side of MARC. What I'm really after is a way to display links to project Gutenberg titles in III Encore and not having MARC records is one technical hurdle, as is not having consistent display of URLs from field 856.

Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Simon Spero
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Owen, Will o...@email.unc.edu wrote: Endeca provides a public interface to library holdings: it is not and could not be an ILS, performing functions like circulation, accounting control, etc. In this respect it's more akin to Blacklight that to an ILS. One

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Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Bess Sadler
Matt, you also may want to explore the exciting world of batch Marc record editing. Pick a language with a well maintained Marc library and you can fix those records with data you harvest online. Bess On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Jon Gorman jonathan.gor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 14,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Project Gutenberg MARC

2012-03-14 Thread Robin Dean
Hi Matt, The Colorado Library Consortium (CLiC) has a free download of MARC records for the top 500 most popular ebooks from Project Gutenberg: http://www.clicweb.org/import-marc-records The records have been cleaned up/enhanced by catalogers, including the addition of an 856$z for all the

[CODE4LIB] Blacklight contractor sought

2012-03-14 Thread Kyle Banerjee
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Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?

2012-03-14 Thread Peter Noerr
There was a system developed back in the '80s which stored its records internally in a direct Entity-Relationship database and allowed inter-record linking and a rather hyperlink-like data structure. BUT... that was all internal. It allowed some very nice OPAC features and possibly easier

[CODE4LIB] Alternatives to MARC (was: Re: [CODE4LIB] NON-MARC ILS?)

2012-03-14 Thread stuart yeates
MARC is a pain to work with; this is a truism which most of us should be familiar with. Blindly moving away from MARC is not the solution, indeed history suggests that path leads us back to an even more complex version of MARC. MARC is complex (and thus a pain) for three reasons: (a) the

[CODE4LIB] Pub Meetup in Ottawa, Ontario

2012-03-14 Thread Warren A. Layton
Hi all, If anyone in the Ottawa (Ontario) area is interested, I’m proposing an informal code4lib North pub meetup: Date: Wednesday March 28, 5-7 PM Location: Royal Oak on Bank and Gloucester (on the corner across from L’Esplanade Laurier). Beginners welcome! Let me know if you’re interested,