Re: [CODE4LIB] A Responsibility to Encourage Better Browsers ( ? )

2013-02-19 Thread Michael Schofield
I'm not intending to spread misinformation, and my comparison doesn't fall apart. My reason for even mentioning jquery is to illustrate the trend of influential stakeholders to move past support for old IE. Even my personal example doesn't involve dropping IE8 cold turkey, but that the wind is c

Re: [CODE4LIB] A Responsibility to Encourage Better Browsers ( ? )

2013-02-19 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM To: Code for Libraries Cc: Michael Schofield Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] A Responsibility to Encourage Better Browsers ( ? ) On 2/19/2013 10:22 AM, Michael Schofield wrote: Now that Google, jQuery, and others will soon drop support for IE8 - its time to politel

Re: [CODE4LIB] A Responsibility to Encourage Better Browsers ( ? )

2013-02-19 Thread Sean Hannan
Let's not forget that Google has a business case for dropping IE8 support. Alerting folks to their old browser could (in SEO terms) turn into Chrome conversions. -Sean On 2/19/13 12:22 PM, "Eric Phetteplace" wrote: > I guess my general philosophy is that, for any browser with a decent market >

Re: [CODE4LIB] A Responsibility to Encourage Better Browsers ( ? )

2013-02-19 Thread Eric Phetteplace
I guess my general philosophy is that, for any browser with a decent market share (>1% ish), it's my responsibility that the website *works*. It is not my responsibility to make it look the same or run as fast in every browser, which means IE 8 can get flat colors instead of gradients or a fallback

Re: [CODE4LIB] A Responsibility to Encourage Better Browsers ( ? )

2013-02-19 Thread Tom Keays
jQuery 2.x will support IE 9+ . Jonathan is correct that 1.x will continue to support IE 6+ and there are techniques to deliver the older version of jQuery to older browsers if the developer deems it necessary. http://jquery.com/browser-support/ However, I think Michael is in good company in thin

Re: [CODE4LIB] A Responsibility to Encourage Better Browsers ( ? )

2013-02-19 Thread Michael Schofield
11:57 AM To: Code for Libraries Cc: Michael Schofield Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] A Responsibility to Encourage Better Browsers ( ? ) On 2/19/2013 10:22 AM, Michael Schofield wrote: > Now that Google, jQuery, and others will soon drop support for IE8 - > its time to politely join-in and make luddite pat

Re: [CODE4LIB] A Responsibility to Encourage Better Browsers ( ? )

2013-02-19 Thread Bill Dueber
Keep in mind that many old-IE users are there because their corporate/gov entity requires it. Our entire univeristy health/hospital complex, for example, was on IE6 until...last year, maybe?... because they had several critical pieces of software written as active-x components that only ran in IE6.

Re: [CODE4LIB] A Responsibility to Encourage Better Browsers ( ? )

2013-02-19 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 2/19/2013 10:22 AM, Michael Schofield wrote: Now that Google, jQuery, and others will soon drop support for IE8 - its time to politely join-in and make luddite patrons aware. IMHO, anyway. I would like a cite for this. I think you are mis-informed. It is a misconception that JQuery is dropp

[CODE4LIB] A Responsibility to Encourage Better Browsers ( ? )

2013-02-19 Thread Michael Schofield
Hi everyone, I'm having a change of heart. It is kind of sacrilegious, especially if you-like me-evangelize mobile-first, progressively enhanced web design, to throw alerts when users hit your site using IE7 / IE8 that encourage upgrading or changing browsers. Especially in libraries which ar