[CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
I believe participating in the Semantic Web and providing content via the principles of linked data is not rocket surgery, especially for cultural heritage institutions -- libraries, archives, and museums. Here is a simple recipe for their participation: 1. use existing metadata standards

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Brian Zelip
It's a great start Eric. It helps me think that I can do it. Looking forward to more. Brian Zelip UIUC On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: I believe participating in the Semantic Web and providing content via the principles of linked data is not rocket

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Forkel
Hi Eric, while I also think this is not rocket surgery, I'd like to point out that trial (and potentially error) as suggested by your go back to step #1 instructions is not a good solution to coming up with URIs. I think once published - i.e. put on a webserver - you should be able to keep the

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Karen Coyle
Eric, I think this skips a step - which is the design step in which you create a domain model that uses linked data as its basis. RDF is not a serialization; it actually may require you to re-think the basic structure of your metadata. The reason for that is that it provides capabilities that

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Aaron Rubinstein
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head here, Karen. I would just add, or maybe reassure, that this does not necessarily require rethinking your existing metadata but how to translate that existing metadata into a linked data environment. Though this might seem like a pain, in many cases it

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Ethan Gruber
I'm not sure that I agree that RDF is not a serialization. It really depends on the context of the system and intended use of the linked data. For example, TEI is designed with a specific purpose which cannot be replicated in RDF (at least, not very easily at all), but deriving RDF from

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Ross Singer
That's still not a serialization. It's just a similar data model. Pretty huge difference. -Ross. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure that I agree that RDF is not a serialization. It really depends on the context of the system and intended

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Ethan Gruber
I see that serialization has a different definition in computer science than I thought it did. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: That's still not a serialization. It's just a similar data model. Pretty huge difference. -Ross. On Tue, Nov 19,

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Nov 19, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Robert Forkel xrotw...@googlemail.com wrote: while I also think this is not rocket surgery, I'd like to point out that trial (and potentially error) as suggested by your go back to step #1 instructions is not a good solution to coming up with URIs. I think once

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Eric, I think this skips a step - which is the design step in which you create a domain model that uses linked data as its basis. RDF is not a serialization; it actually may require you to re-think the basic structure of your

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Ross Singer
I don't know what your definition of serialization is, but I don't know of any where data model and formatted output of a data model are synonymous. RDF is a data model *not* a serialization. -Ross. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: I see that

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Ethan Gruber
yo, i get it On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know what your definition of serialization is, but I don't know of any where data model and formatted output of a data model are synonymous. RDF is a data model *not* a serialization. -Ross.

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Karen Coyle
Eric, if you want to leap into the linked data world in the fastest, easiest way possible, then I suggest looking at microdata markup, e.g. schema.org.[1] Schema.org does not require you to transform your data at all: it only requires mark-up of your online displays. This makes sense because

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Ethan Gruber
Hasn't the pendulum swung back toward RDFa Lite ( http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-lite/) recently? They are fairly equivalent, but I'm not sure about all the politics involved. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Eric, if you want to leap into the linked data world

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Aaron Rubinstein arubi...@library.umass.edu wrote: I think you’ve hit the nail on the head here, Karen. I would just add, or maybe reassure, that this does not necessarily require rethinking your existing metadata but how to translate that

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Nov 19, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Eric, if you want to leap into the linked data world in the fastest, easiest way possible, then I suggest looking at microdata markup, e.g. schema.org. [1] … [1] http://schema.org I don’t advocate this as the fastest,

Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe

2013-11-19 Thread Bigwood, David
] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:10 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe Eric, if you want to leap into the linked data world in the fastest, easiest way possible, then I suggest looking at microdata markup, e.g. schema.org.[1