Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-04 Thread don . mcmorris
I believe that would be an error 438 (38 = F U on a DTMF keypad). Would you like to co-author an Internet Draft to get it in the RFC? ;) On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Thomas Dowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I renamed our input for e-mail address from '' to > something pretty generic, and t

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-04 Thread Nathan Vack
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Thomas Dowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now if I could just return an HTTP status that meant "Go [EMAIL PROTECTED] > yourself". That's more or less what 403 means[1]. In fact, returning: Go [EMAIL PROTECTED] yourselfAnd your spamming friends, too. with a 403

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-03 Thread Thomas Dowling
I renamed our input for e-mail address from '' to something pretty generic, and the bots that hit us immediately stopped supplying valid addresses for that input, so that's easy to catch. Then as an experiment, I put '' back in, inside a comment. Sure enough, the bots see it and stick and add

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-03 Thread John Fereira
Andrew Darby wrote: It's anecdotal, but since I added a little "What's two plus two" input box to my forms, we hardly get any more form spam. You could easily switch the question each time, although I haven't had the need to. I know that Blojsom, an open source blogging application, has been

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-02 Thread Genny Engel
More anecdote: I got rid of pretty much 100% of spam on our blog by commenting out the URL input box. Then add a few lines of code to the comment processor: if ($_POST['url']) { header('HTTP/1.0 406 Not Acceptable'); exit; } If the post contains a URL it's a bot, since a human wouldn't be a

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-01 Thread David Kane
Ask the user for a 'VIP code', which is programatically generated elsewhere on the page or another page. Worked well on a PHBB2 board I once used. David. 2008/7/1 - Jonathan Rochkind, Johns Hopkins Univ. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Akismet looks great, I hadn't been familiar with this before. > > Bu

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-01 Thread MJ Ray
"- Jonathan Rochkind, Johns Hopkins Univ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But it doesn't look to me like a university and/or library can use > Akismet for free; it looks like it might be $25/month ($300 a year), > which is a bit steep. But I'm not certain; anyone know if a university > library ca

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-01 Thread - Jonathan Rochkind, Johns Hopkins Univ.
Akismet looks great, I hadn't been familiar with this before. But it doesn't look to me like a university and/or library can use Akismet for free; it looks like it might be $25/month ($300 a year), which is a bit steep. But I'm not certain; anyone know if a university library can maybe in fac

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-01 Thread Andrew Darby
It's anecdotal, but since I added a little "What's two plus two" input box to my forms, we hardly get any more form spam. You could easily switch the question each time, although I haven't had the need to. We weren't getting hit once a minute, mind you, so you might be attracting a better class o

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-01 Thread MJ Ray
Thomas Dowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know anything concrete about "cognitive" captchas? I've run > into anecdotal support for things like: >Enter the word "orange" [...] > Are these known to work? Or are they just clever guesses about what > bots might not be able to fig

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-01 Thread MJ Ray
Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Recaptcha device specifically also provides an audio test. But point > taken, even so it could prevent accessibility challenges. See the w3c for how poorly audio tests perform: even people who can hear properly (which I can't) fail them frequentl

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-01 Thread David Pattern
EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha? The Recaptcha device specifically also provides an audio test. But point taken, even so it could prevent accessibility challenges. Nevertheless, when my system is currently receiving around one software powered spam per minute, I need a quick pre-built d

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-01 Thread Ross Singer
What about Akismet? -Ross. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Recaptcha device specifically also provides an audio test. But point > taken, even so it could prevent accessibility challenges. > > Nevertheless, when my system is currently receiving ar

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-01 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
The Recaptcha device specifically also provides an audio test. But point taken, even so it could prevent accessibility challenges. Nevertheless, when my system is currently receiving around one software powered spam per minute, I need a quick pre-built drop-in solution to this; I don't have ti

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-01 Thread Thomas Dowling
MJ Ray wrote: Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] And then fails. Anyone managed to do this, or have any other advice for using Recaptcha from perl? Please don't use it as a barrier on the only access route to a service, else you will be locking out humans with vision or hearing

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-07-01 Thread MJ Ray
Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > And then fails. Anyone managed to do this, or have any other advice for > using Recaptcha from perl? Please don't use it as a barrier on the only access route to a service, else you will be locking out humans with vision or hearing problems, or

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-06-30 Thread David Kane
Hi Jonathan, Your email turned me on to reCAPTCHA, which is just such a great concept! I want to note for the list that I did try to "install Captcha::reCAPTCHA" on a server and there was no problem. So, it *is* possible ;-) Best of luck with your quest, David. 2008/6/30 Joe Hourcle <[EMAIL P

Re: [CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-06-30 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Has anyone succesfully installed the cpan module CAPTCHA::Recaptcha for using the Recaptcha service from Perl? It seems to list as a dependency a module that no longer exists? Or else that's the only reason I can figure out that no matter what cpa

[CODE4LIB] perl recaptcha?

2008-06-30 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Has anyone succesfully installed the cpan module CAPTCHA::Recaptcha for using the Recaptcha service from Perl? It seems to list as a dependency a module that no longer exists? Or else that's the only reason I can figure out that no matter what cpan module I choose, it complains: Could not fe