Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-28 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Andrew Hankinson andrew.hankin...@gmail.com wrote: As someone who works on document recognition, I have to disagree. You should always keep an uncompressed original around, since you can never recover it without (often expensive) re-imaging. JPEG, or any other

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-28 Thread Simon Spero
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.comwrote: Every choice people make is about loss. Equipment, optics, lighting, you name it. But for some reason, the instant we're talking about bits of data on a disk, people plan as though capacity were unlimited when most

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-28 Thread Kyle Banerjee
Sure, but these are especially small photos -- are these born digital? Lossless scans of pretty small photos are frequently well over 100MB, and it takes hardly anything to get a 1GB scan. It costs a fortunate to treat a thesis (i.e. what's really being preserved is readable text rather than the

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-27 Thread Wilhelmina Randtke
: 203 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 4:15 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf? If you can stand an extrastep, Ed, there are tools to convert

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-27 Thread Andrew Hankinson
26, 2013 4:15 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf? If you can stand an extrastep, Ed, there are tools to convert PDF to jpg images, and from there it shouldn't be too hard to get TIFF output. Do a search for convert PDF to image to get started

[CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Edward M. Corrado
Hi All, I have a need to batch convert many TIFF images to PDF. I'd then like to be able to discard the TIFF images, but I can only do that if I can create the original TIFF again from the PDF. Is this possible? If so, using what tools and how? tiff2pdf seems like a possible solution, but I

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Roy
If you can stand an extrastep, Ed, there are tools to convert PDF to jpg images, and from there it shouldn't be too hard to get TIFF output. Do a search for convert PDF to image to get started. There are tools that are not online only, which I'm pretty sure is what you're after. Roy Zimmer

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Friscia, Michael
Image Magick can do it, you need Ghost Script installed though. I'Ve done this with multi layer TIFs and multi page PDFs. -mike ___ Michael Friscia Manager, Digital Library Programming Services Yale University Library (203) 432-1856 On 4/26/13 4:08

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread James Gilbert
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 4:15 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf? If you can stand an extrastep, Ed, there are tools to convert PDF to jpg images, and from there it shouldn't be too hard to get TIFF output. Do a search for convert PDF to image

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Aaron Addison
Imagemagick's convert will do it both ways. convert a.tiff b.pdf convert b.pdf a.tiff If the pdf is more than one page, the tiff will be a multipage tiff. Aaron -- Aaron Addison Unix Administrator W. E. B. Du Bois Library UMass Amherst 413 577 2104 On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 16:08 -0400,

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Steve Cherry
Road Whitehall, PA 18052 610-432-4339 ext: 203 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 4:15 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf? If you can stand an extrastep

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Pottinger, Hardy J.
Hi, you'll notice from the language you use to describe your use case, that you use the word convert to describe what you're doing to the original TIFF images. Once you're done producing a derivative from those TIFFs, the only way back to the original TIFFs is to go back to the actual originals.

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Edward M. Corrado
This works sometimes. Well, it does give me a new tiff file from the pdf all of the time, but it is not always anywhere near the same size as the original tiff. My guess is that maybe there is a flag or somethign that woulf help. Here is what I get with one fil: ecorrado@ecorrado:~/Desktop/test$

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Edward M. Corrado
Actually, I'm mistaken. It didn't ever work. :-(. I do get a tiff, but not the original. I looked at the wrong files. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Edward M. Corrado ecorr...@ecorrado.uswrote: This works sometimes. Well, it does give me a new tiff file from the pdf all of the time, but it

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Ethan Gruber
What's your use case in this scenario? Do you want to provide access to the PDFs over the web or are you using them as your archival format? You probably don't want to use PDF to achieve both objectives. Ethan On Apr 26, 2013 5:11 PM, Edward M. Corrado ecorr...@ecorrado.us wrote: This works

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Edward M. Corrado
Hardy, You may very well be correct, but some programs claim to keep the original image data unaltered [1], so I was hoping that was the case (basically it would put some sort of wrapper around the tiff. Tiff2pdf on my Ubuntu box seems to keep the file sizes very close when I use it so, I'm

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Edward M. Corrado
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: What's your use case in this scenario? Do you want to provide access to the PDFs over the web or are you using them as your archival format? You probably don't want to use PDF to achieve both objectives. The problem I

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Jason Curtis
] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf? On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: What's your use case in this scenario? Do you want to provide access to the PDFs over the web or are you using them as your archival format? You probably don't want to use PDF to achieve both

Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?

2013-04-26 Thread Andrew Cunningham
, April 26, 2013 2:55 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf? On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: What's your use case in this scenario? Do you want to provide access to the PDFs over the web or are you using them