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Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Serials Solutions Summon
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Eric Lease Morgan wrote:
On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Dr R. Sanderson wrote:
How is this 'new type' of index any different from an index of OAI-PMH
harvested material? Which in turn
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From:Diane I. Hillmann metadata.ma...@gmail.com
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3. Because they also have data on what journals any particular library
customer has subscribed to, they can customize the
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Laurence Lockton l.g.lock...@bath.ac.ukwrote:
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Date:Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:36:30 -0400
From:Diane I. Hillmann metadata.ma...@gmail.com
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3. Because they also have data on what
Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
It _would_ be great if SerSol would actually give you (if you were
subscribed) a feed of their harvested and normalized metadata, so you
could still pay them to collect and normalize it, but then use it for
your own purposes outside of Summon. I hope SerSol will
Andrew Nagy wrote:
Summon is really more than an NGC as we are selling it as a service - a
unified discovery service. This means that it is a single repository of the
library's content ( subscription content, catalog records, IR data, etc.).
Federated search is not apart of Summon
Well, if we
I, and most of the people I've worked with, have been using the terms
metasearch, federated search, broadcast search and distributed
search synonymously for years. Have they now settled down into
having distinct meanings? If anyone could summarise, I'd be grateful.
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Sorry, but, me too!
Rob
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Mike Taylor wrote:
I, and most of the people I've worked with, have been using the terms
metasearch, federated search, broadcast search and distributed
search synonymously for years. Have they now settled down into
having distinct meanings? If
On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Mike Taylor wrote:
I, and most of the people I've worked with, have been using the terms
metasearch, federated search, broadcast search and distributed
search synonymously for years. Have they now settled down into
having distinct meanings? If anyone could
Both the terms federated searching and meta-searching are often used
ambiguously to refer to both of these techniques.
I've been trying to use broadcast search and local index to be clear
about which technique I'm talking about. (I used to say 'cross-search'
for 'broadcast search', but I
But I don't think I was clear with my question in any case; it occurs to me
now that my true question wasn't code-related, but seeing Summon on the conf
agenda prompted me to bring it up here. Namely: has anyone investigated
whether the arrangements SerSol has with content vendors are easily
Eric,
How is this 'new type' of index any different from an index of OAI-PMH
harvested material? Which in turn is no different from any other local
search, just a different method of ingesting the data?
Sounds like good PR to me, rather than a revolution ;)
Rob
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Eric
Eric Lease Morgan writes:
On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Mike Taylor wrote:
I, and most of the people I've worked with, have been using the terms
metasearch, federated search, broadcast search and distributed
search synonymously for years. Have they now settled down into
having
Karen Schneider wrote:
But I don't think I was clear with my question in any case; it occurs to me
now that my true question wasn't code-related, but seeing Summon on the conf
agenda prompted me to bring it up here. Namely: has anyone investigated
whether the arrangements SerSol has with
On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Dr R. Sanderson wrote:
How is this 'new type' of index any different from an index of OAI-PMH
harvested material? Which in turn is no different from any other
local
search, just a different method of ingesting the data?
This new type of index is not any
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I, and most of the people I've
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Eric Lease Morgan wrote:
On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Dr R. Sanderson wrote:
How is this 'new type' of index any different from an index of OAI-PMH
harvested material? Which in turn is no different from any other
local search, just a different method of ingesting the
On 04/21/2009 10:40 AM, Mike Taylor wrote:
I, and most of the people I've worked with, have been using the terms
metasearch, federated search, broadcast search and distributed
search synonymously for years. Have they now settled down into
having distinct meanings? If anyone could summarise,
From: Thomas Dowling tdowl...@ohiolink.edu
You can define differences between meta-, federated, and broadcast search,
but
every discussion on the topic will be punctuated by people asking, Wait,
what's the difference again?
Leaving aside metasearch and broadcast search (terms invented more
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From: Thomas Dowling tdowl...@ohiolink.edu
You can define differences between meta-, federated, and broadcast search,
but
every discussion on the topic will be punctuated by people
Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress writes:
From: Thomas Dowling tdowl...@ohiolink.edu
You can define differences between meta-, federated, and
broadcast search, but every discussion on the topic will be
punctuated by people asking, Wait, what's the difference again?
Leaving aside
Thomas Dowling wrote:
We've occasionally tried to disambiguate those terms for some purposes
around
here and realized that, if most people use them synonymously, they're synonyms.
You can define differences between meta-, federated, and broadcast search, but
every discussion on the topic will
Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress wrote:
Leaving aside metasearch and broadcast search (terms invented more recently)
it is a shame if federated has really lost its distinction
fromdistributed. Historically, a federated database is one that
integrates multiple (autonomous) databases so it
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Eric Lease Morgan wrote:
On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Dr R. Sanderson wrote:
How is this 'new type' of index any different from an index
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Jonathan:
I think you've cut to the chase on this one and seen the potential. I
went to one of the roll out presentations at Midwinter on Summon, and
was quite impressed. As someone who *was* an aggregator of metadata in
the recent past (NSDL in the early part of this decade), I can attest to
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On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
It _would_ be great if SerSol would actually give you (if you were
subscribed) a feed of their harvested and normalized metadata, so
you could still pay them to collect and normalize it, but
From: Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu
If you want to reclaim the term federated to mean a local index, I think
you have a losing battle in front of you.
It's not a battle I plan to pursue, I don't fight battles anymore. I just
feel obligated to observe that when vocabulary is tinkered with
Peter Murray wrote:
I don't think it is part of SerSol's business model to offer a feed of
the full metadata it aggregates, but it does seem to be part of the
business model to offer an API upon which you could put your own
interface to the underlying aggregated data.
Yep, it's not
It is possible for a consortium to build the same sort of service as Serials
Solutions. Besides the OhioLink example, we've been doing that in Ontario for
the last 7 years or so - aggregating ejournal content (15 million articles),
abstract and index databases (over 100 now in partnership with
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Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Serials Solutions Summon
Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress wrote:
Leaving aside metasearch
Yitzchak - I'd be more than happy to answer any questions you have about
Summon. I will give a brief description to answer your questions - but for
any other questions you might have we can discuss offline as to not spam the
mailing list with lots of propaganda for Summon - thought it is really
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