Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Dinberg Donna
OK, folks, it's time for a comment from the peanut gallery. (Having had my 1st cuppa, I am brave.) Last night I pulled the first 3 issues of JOLA (yeah, I go back that far) from my shelf and took a look. Back in the late '60s, JOLA was reproducing images of Hollerith cards, tractor-feed print

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Feb 22, 2006, at 8:03 AM, Dinberg Donna wrote: Last night I pulled the first 3 issues of JOLA (yeah, I go back that far) from my shelf and took a look. Back in the late '60s, JOLA was reproducing images of Hollerith cards, tractor-feed print dumps, flowcharts, and formulae to illustrate

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Edward Corrado
Well, since I brought up the idea at code4libcon, I'm in favor of it :-). I'm not sure how the best way to handle the review process would be, but I do know that tradition blind peer review would: a) Be a lot of work b) Slow down the process (which is a problem with a journal such as ITAL)

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Dorothea Salo
I'm glad for Donna Dinberg's post, as it crystallizes my overnight thinking about code4lib and its currently-vaporware journal. This message may turn long and discursive, for which I apologize in advance. Code4lib started out as and in many ways still *is* a core group of library tech people, a

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Ben Brophy
Hello, I'm Ben Brophy. I'm a UI designer/developer at MIT, working on a federated search tool for slide libraries, and about 85% of the way through library school. I am an unrepentant lurker on this list. I think the journal idea is excellent. Some one asked who would read this journal, and I

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Sperr, Edwin
One potential model for a code4lib journal (or at least how we coded it good part of it) is the that of the methods journal found in the life sciences. Good examples include Nature Methods http://www.nature.com/nmeth/index.html and Biotechniques http://www.biotechniques.com/ Ed Sperr Digital

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Dinberg Donna
Dorothea states elegantly what I implied (I guess I needed two cuppas): Donna's post suggests a criminally underserved population, one I think code4lib could profitably target along with its developer core: the accidental library tech. there is NOTHING out there for us. Code4lib

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Dinberg Donna
Responding to Mark Jordan: but I don't think that audience should be the people you describe above (who a colleague of mine calls analogue librarians). If there are any accidental techs (or potential accidental techs) who aren't already hanging out on venues like what code4lib already is

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread K.G. Schneider
If the delivery method is purely electronic, and it's a given that the intended audience would have tools to be alerted of new articles, why bother with a formal schedule? -Ross. Because that's how things get written, reviewed, and published. It's not for Them, it's for You. Just my 2 cents

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Jeremy Frumkin
Ross unleashed: Why does it have to follow /any/ traditional publishing model? I sort of like the idea that maybe 3 articles come out in a week, then nothing for a week or two, then another article comes out, and then one comes out every day for a 13 day span. If the delivery method is

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Edward Corrado
Jeremy Frumkin said the following on 2/22/2006 11:44 AM: Ross unleashed: Why does it have to follow /any/ traditional publishing model? I sort of like the idea that maybe 3 articles come out in a week, then nothing for a week or two, then another article comes out, and then one comes out

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Mark Jordan
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 08:44:08AM -0800, Jeremy Frumkin wrote: Ross unleashed: Why does it have to follow /any/ traditional publishing model? I sort of like the idea that maybe 3 articles come out in a week, then nothing for a week or two, then another article comes out, and then one

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Binkley, Peter
I agree with Ed Corrado that the purpose of the peer-review process is to improve the articles, not to give thumbs-up or thumbs-down. How about making the review process consist of submitting an article into a wiki (with proper discussion page etc.) and letting it simmer there for a while before

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Beata Frelas
Sounds like a 'journal - portal - knowledge base' type-o-thing Whatever it will be, I KNOW it will be Bit-e-full! Beata Eric Lease Morgan wrote: On Feb 22, 2006, at 8:03 AM, Dinberg Donna wrote: Last night I pulled the first 3 issues of JOLA (yeah, I go back that far) from my shelf and

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Davis, Jeffrey
A few thoughts, followed by a summary of the discussion so far. Ed Corrado noted some problems with peer review in an earlier message, and I think those problems outweigh the gains of peer review -- which ultimately amount to a little more respectability, mainly for those seeking tenure. In that

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Code Sharing - (Re: [CODE4LIB] journal)

2006-02-22 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On 2/23/06, Ryan Eby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.textualize.com/ Again I'm unsure if we would be looking at mostly small snippets and functions or full fledged classes/libraries. Thanks for pointing this out; looks good. Now with any of this, it not so much the actual libraries and

Re: [CODE4LIB] A code4lib journal proposal

2006-02-22 Thread Art Rhyno
Wow, lots of great ideas coming in on this. I wonder if fleshing out a test case would be useful for the class of materials that might have trouble finding a home in standard publications. For example, Roy's MODS-MPEG DIDL shootout. Let's say that Roy put a digitized book on the code4lib server