Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Boheemen, Peter van
As i wrote earlier, I have implemented a link using the Google API in our library catalog. It worked . for a while :) What we notice now is, that Google responds with an error message. It thinks that it has detected spyware or some virus. i see the same effect now when I click on the examples

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Godmar Back
FWIW, realize that this is client-side mashup. Google will see individual requests from individual IP addresses from everybody viewing your page. For each IP address from which it sees requests it'll decide whether to block or not. It'll block if it thinks you're harvesting their data. Wageningen

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Riesner, Giles
Given this latest information, I'd be rather hesitant to even try using Google's images as our network traffic is all NAT'ed and all student traffic from a campus goes out one ONE NAT address and ALL staff traffic on another (in our case x.x.x.204 and x.x.x.205). We currently use Amazon's

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Godmar Back
Although I completely agree that server-side queryability is something we should ask from Google, I'd like to follow up on: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The architecture of SFX would make it hard to implement Google Books API access as purely

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Godmar Back
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tim Spalding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: limits. I don't think it's a strict hits-per-day, I think it's heuristic software meant to stop exactly what we'd be trying to do, server-side machine-based access. Aren't we still talking about covers? I see

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Jonathan Gorman
Original message Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:13:58 -0400 From: Tim Spalding [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU limits. I don't think it's a strict hits-per-day, I think it's heuristic software meant to stop exactly what we'd

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
This is what I'm worried about too. The API is _intended_ to be used as a client-side javascript. _Technically_ it's of course possible to use it on the server side too. But I am worried that this will run up against un-advertised Google rate limits. I don't think it's a strict hits-per-day, I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Well, the SFX architecture has a feature called display logic that let's you on the server side determine how the menu will display based on what services are available. This is more obviously relevant to digitized text availability from Google Books than just cover images. You might want to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Tim Spalding
You can, of course, mix the two approaches—get once browser-side, tell your servers what it said and store that for a while. We do something like that with Amazon covers. We don't store the covers, but we store *whether* Amazon has the cover. That way, it can know whether to try Amazon or not, and

[CODE4LIB] Fwd: MIT OpenCourseWare Executive Director

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Matienzo
The Massachusetts Institute of Technology seeks an Executive Director to lead its highly successful and pioneering endeavor, OpenCourseWare, in the next phase of its development. Launched in the spring of 2001 with over $30 million of gifts and foundation grants, OCW publishes the educational

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I was thinking of both covers and 'digitized text availability'. But the reason I want to in fact do both server side is because of the architecture I am trying to create here. We have a variety of systems that should use both these services. We, like many people, are trying to move to a more

Re: [CODE4LIB] TWG drinks vs core team dinner

2008-03-17 Thread Todd Grappone
Katherine, This email got munged. Can you please resend? Thanks, Todd On Mar 17, 2008, at 8:44 AM, Katherine Kott wrote: Well, the SFX architecture has a feature called display logic that let's you on the server side determine how the menu will display based on what services are available.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
My general philosophy is still always to put as _little_ Javascript as possible. Thus my way-too-clever idea to have some javascript which actually sends the Google (or similar) API response back to my server via AJAX for _real_ processing. :) But if you DO want or need to do javascript-heavy

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Boheemen, Peter van
Godmar, It did not shut down during development, yesterday, when I developed it from home. It broke down today, when people started to use it. All university desktop computer have got dynamic 10.*.*.* adresses. The gateway does NAT so they are exposed to google with about three possible IP

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Interesting that these problems arise even when using the API as Google intends on the client side. I would encourage people to tell Google about this. If only we knew a way to tell Google about it. If you can find a public email address anywhere or comment form, let us know. And if you are

[CODE4LIB] jquery plugin to grab book covers from Google and link to Google books

2008-03-17 Thread Bess Sadler
Matt Mitchell here at UVa just wrote a jquery plugin to access google book covers and link to google books. I wrote up how to use it here: http://www.ibiblio.org/bess/?p=107 We’re using it as part of Blacklight, and we’re making it available through the Blacklight source code repository under an

Re: [CODE4LIB] jquery plugin to grab book covers from Google and link to Google books

2008-03-17 Thread Godmar Back
Good, but why limit it to 1 class per span? My proposal separates different functionality in multiple classes, allowing the user to mix and match. If you limit yourself to 1 class, you have to provide classes for all possible combinations a user might want, such as:

[CODE4LIB] Job Opening: Web Systems Programmer at University of Michigan Library

2008-03-17 Thread Ken Varnum
Job Title: Applications Programmer/Analyst Intermediate Target salary Range: $40,000 - $45,000 dependent on education and previous relevant experience. NOTE: Review of applications will begin on March 28, 2008. The University of Michigan University Library's Web Systems department is looking

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Boheemen, Peter van
I found a response form on the google books site. It is meant to be for people who want their books published I am afrais, but this was not all to clear. Anyway, it accepted my Google account and I submitted this problem Peter Drs. P.J.C. van Boheemen Hoofd Applicatieontwikkeling en beheer -

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread Boheemen, Peter van
Hmm, just found an example where Google clearly does something wrong: Look at: http://library.wur.nl/WebQuery/catalog/lang/948125 It shows a cover and links to the wrong book !!! The look up is based on isbn 0851992544, but this book has got isbn 0851993575 and this is also clearly stated in

Re: [CODE4LIB] Free covers from Google

2008-03-17 Thread John Fereira
At 02:55 PM 3/17/2008, you wrote: My general philosophy is still always to put as _little_ Javascript as possible. Thus my way-too-clever idea to have some javascript which actually sends the Google (or similar) API response back to my server via AJAX for _real_ processing. :) But if you DO

[CODE4LIB] Career Opportunity: ILS / Systems Consultant

2008-03-17 Thread Kathleen Schmidt
Library Associates Companies seeks an experienced information professional to coordinate the implementation of a new ILS system replacing the library's current SIRSI ILS, a system utilized by this library for over 15 years. This is a highly transactional library that frequently runs management